[PJR]

I'm thinking about a CZ 527 in .22 Hornet and while I've always liked the look of a gun with a Mannlicher stock I have heard they are less accurate than rifles with standard stocks. Is this true? Anyone with a Mannlicher stocked rifle from any manufacturer who can comment?

Paul

[Mannlicher]

I do have some, ahem, small aquaintence with Mannlicher stocks, and Mannlicher style stocks.

Properly bedded, and maintained, even my old 1903 6.5X 54 will deliver 100 yard groups under two inches, with iron sights. My 1908, 1912 rifles are as accurate.

My Ruger M77 International in .250/3000 Savage AI, will deliver one inch groups all day long.

They look darn sharp too :)

[Art Eatman]

"Properly bedded and maintained" is the key phrase. :) If the barrel bands are too tight, there can be some problems with stresses from the differential heating with a longer string of shots.

There's no reason for the first two or three shots not to always go to the same point of aim, and hit closely together...IOW, great for hunting but not for benchrest.

Art

[Gordon]

My Sako mannlicher .308 was not a keeper it never could shoot under 2" with a 2x7 Redfield scope with anything . I regretfully sold it for $800 in 1994 . In 1996 I found a 1953 Steyr-Mannlicher Schoenauer Carbinewith 4x Zeiss scope in 30-06 for $750. That Mannlicher shoots 1 inch with almost anything allday long . It is a keeper and I made $50! With that $50 I bought a New condition Mod 95 Mannlicher carbine in 8x56S . It kicks like hell with 1939 ammo(!) and shoot 4 in groups with iron sights. What the hell it is an Original Mannlicher and is stocked to muzzle. I bought 140 rds on strippers for posterity.:D

[Art Eatman]

Gordon, back around 1970 I bought a Sako Forester in .243; it had the Mannlicher stock. It shot vertical strings. The first shot was always POA, but each ensuing shot was one inch higher than the one before!

When I disassembled it to check the bedding, I discovered that it was a two-piece stock! The barrel band hid the join. So, I took care of that situation: I cut the main stock back a bit and threw away the front piece.

Thereafter, 1/2" to 3/4" groups; occasionally, 3/8". :) It's still one of my pets.

Art

[BigG]

I had the Steyr Mannlicher Model M in 243 with beautiful Mannlicher stock. Under MOA with as many rounds as you cared to shoot. Lots of 5 shot ~ 1/2" groups. No change in POI no matter how hot bbl got. Think Mannlicher knows how to make a Mannlicher stock. :cool:

[Tamara]

My No.1 RSI will do under 1" @ 100yds with factory 70gr Nosler Ballistic-Tip Federal ammo.

Would it be more accurate with a shorter stock? Maybe, but how accurate is accurate enough? ;)

[Rick R]

My 77RSI in .308 shoots around 2 1/2" groups from the bench with most loads ( I have recently found a handload closer to 1"). But from field postions where there's no pressure on the fore end I've hit some very satisfying targets, like a 4" gong at 200yds repeatedly.

Mannlicher's are not target rifles, they're short, light, unique rifles designed for chasing animals through thick cover or over steep mountains. Buy one and enjoy.

JMHO

Rick

[COHIBA]

my ruger #1 RSI 7mm mauser w/ leupold IES scout scope goes out for the first time in the morning.

[rick_reno]

I have a Sako 7mm mag with mannlicher stock on it. This rifle shoots sub-MOA groups with 175 gr. bullets. I have read that guns with these stocks can have problems if the stock (forend) is one piece. On the Sako's it's two pieces of wood, secured with the barrel band.

[Dr.Rob]

I always wanted a Ruger 77 international with the full stock something just "neat" about the looks. I don't expect to shoot better than 1" with iron sights, and a scope on a mannlicher looks strange.

[Rick R]

Dr. Rob,

To my eye a Mannlicher is OK if it's scoped with a classic looking scope. Mine wears the Leupold 1-4X with the 25mm objective. It's short and small enough that it doesn't look like the scope is carrying around a rifle.

Your taste may vary, mine was formed by a Steyr that an Uncle brought back from WWII and it had quick release bases where someone along the shipping route had helped themselves to the scope and let the rifle go on. My uncle always described it as having been a small straight scope.

Around here most game is shot at very short range and no one ever bothered to research a replacement scope or mounts.

Rick

[Tamara]

It's short and small enough that it doesn't look like the scope is carrying around a rifle.

Actually, I kinda like my No.1 with its 12x Leupold.

"That's a cute rifle you have mounted on that scope, there..." ;)