Nightstand Gun - Keep in Holster?


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D-Man
October 22, 2007, 02:25 PM
This is sort of a spinoff from the 'Gun Under Pillow Thread'.

I was wondering, for those keeping a gun on the nightstand, are they kept in a holster or without it?

I can see keeping it in a holster because if you are startled out of sleep first instincts may be to rush to grab the gun and mistakenly get a finger in the guard and squeeze the trigger. A holster would prevent this. Of course, I can see it the other way as a holster is another step to have to remove in order to get the gun in firing position.

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Creature
October 22, 2007, 02:36 PM
No holster for me. I keep my gun in condition three in the nightstand. Racking the slide back should get me fully awake.

gandog56
October 22, 2007, 02:37 PM
Nope, no holster. I want to be able to reach up there and the dark and not have to fumble around. Of course, I also don't have any kids around.

Creature
October 22, 2007, 02:41 PM
No kids here either!

19-3Ben
October 22, 2007, 02:57 PM
Double action revolver in the nightstand. No holster. Sometimes I will have one on the floor next to the bed. Then it is in a holster.
I like to have ONE and only one step between my desire to fire the gun, and firing the gun.

GunNut
October 22, 2007, 03:13 PM
Depends on what gun.

Glock when loaded is always in a holster.

Revolver or other heavy DA/SA gun, not necessarily.

CWL
October 22, 2007, 04:50 PM
M1911 cocked and locked & in holster. Same set-up as for carry.

strangelittleman
October 22, 2007, 05:00 PM
Single action revolver on the nightstand, no holster.

D-Man
October 22, 2007, 05:08 PM
I think I would go with what GunNut says above - any DA/SA or guns w/ a safety (say 1911), I think could go holster-less. But if I had a Glock or any other lighter triggered gun, I'd prefer it to be in a holster.

glockman19
October 22, 2007, 05:12 PM
Nightstand Gun - Keep in Holster?

No

glockman19
October 22, 2007, 05:13 PM
dupe.

Cosmoline
October 22, 2007, 05:20 PM
With the holster. It's easy enough to draw, and a holster prevents the possibility, however unlikely, that a freak set of circumstances ends with me pushing something that pins the revolver and engages the trigger. Or a nightmare involving zombies and law professors.

RNB65
October 22, 2007, 06:05 PM
My next to the bed gun is a locked and loaded Glock 17 which I keep in a cheap nylon Glock mini-holster. I cut the belt loops off so it only serves as a trigger cover. It makes sure I don't accidentally grab the trigger if I reach for the gun in the middle of the night and it slides off in an instant. I'm a strong believer in keeping the trigger covered at all times on loaded DAO semi-autos.

chieftain
October 22, 2007, 06:18 PM
Well,

the primary home defense side arm is Kimber Warrior#1 (230gr Golden Saber Remington's) with a X200B light attached, is kept in a holster. SideArmor.

Along side the night stand, between the stand and the bed is the XCR with Aimpoint M3, white light, and CTC laser grip(Federal 50grHP for in the house in a 20 round mag, in the Grab bag is 4 30rd mags with CorBon DPX 53gr) . Next to that used to be the 590 Mossy with night sights too, but I have switched and have a double barreled coach hammer gun (#1 buck in both barrels, with 00buck in the Grab bag) next to the XCR now. I select the tool/s for the mission as I see it. Also the grab bag, with a couple of flash lights, ammo for all the weapons, water, first aide kit etc...., cell phone gets recharged sitting on top of the grab bag.

The under the pillow weapon is the S&W 642 with CTC laser grip (Speer 135gr +P Gold Dot for snubbies) is kept in its Kramer pocket holster too. It is one of the few weapons that can be fired from under the blankets repeatedly with out fouling and getting a FTF.

I use the Crimson Trace a lot in home defense because of my vision. while in bed I do not have my Trifocals on and can clearly and accurately place fire on an in house target without my glasses when using the Lasers. If I have to come out of bed, fighting, or fight from under the covers, I want to be able to effectively employ/aim the weapon I have with me and must fight with. I do keep an extra pair of glasses in the Grab Bag, but I may never get a chance to (A), get to the grab bag, (B), get the glasses out of the bag if I get the bag.

Fights tend to be dynamic, sudden, fast, and never seem to go as planned. I try to neutralize as many of the potential REAL problems I may run into in the defense of my home. I try to "Plan" for nothing going my way. It doesn't cover everything but it helps. Remember practical is my watch word, and practical means different things to different people. Not good/bad just different.

I will lose if they come with a rifle company and armor. I am not ready for that, and never will be. there are limits to which each of us must decide to prepare for. It isn't about right or wrong. It is about capability and as stated above, what is practical for each of us.

My question for folks I discuss this with is, what are you going to do if you wake up and there is a guy standing next to your bed, with a lets say a baseball bat in his hands? Yep, your defenses have either failed, have been neutralized/defeated, your kids have let these folks in and you are rapidly approaching a worst case scenario etc....

Lying in bed under the covers with a BG standing over you what are you going to do? There are not a lot of options. Some guy asked me to replace the bat with a gun. My answer was probably try to die gallantly. May happen with a bat too. But that's why I have the 642. It gives me a chance, that's all. No guarantee's in this kind of fight.

And for folks, that believe they have defenses that cannot be defeated. I guarantee, you are wrong. Just make them as strong and in depth as you can in a practical manor. Defenses buy time, they don't stop a determined advisory. The only defenses that have a chance of "stopping" a determined advisory must be covered by direct fire.

Most of this is War 101. If you place all your bets on unmanned defenses, you are at best buying time if the advisory is determined. They may fend off non determined advisories.

AS Sir Darwin implies, we all get to choose for ourselves. You can be right hundreds of times. It only takes being wrong once to join Sir Darwin.

Go figure.

Fred

MCgunner
October 22, 2007, 06:20 PM
DA .38 revolver in a gun rug. Nothing tacticool with high firepower, it just works.

Lonestar49
October 22, 2007, 06:20 PM
...

All my guns are in Uncle Mikes IWB 14 buck neoprene holsters. They protect the gun/s, and furniture, from dents, scratches, and are all black, which conceal well at night, mixed with my black, morning, comfy's I wear and, place the gun in between them, right next to my bedside, in arms reach, with only the 2 rear Night Sights glowing green, for easy spotting, looking down.

And as mentioned, prevents me from grabbing the trigger by mistake as you have to pull the gun out first to get to the trigger, which they, the guns, come out fast and easy with these most excellent gun carry holsters for putting my guns into my safe, on my PC tower under my office desk, on the living room table,etc.

And no kids here FYI.

Again, less is more IMHO



Ls

choochboost
October 22, 2007, 06:29 PM
At night I keep my carry gun sitting in a SSHMI mount on the side of my bed.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d11/choochboost/Holstermountsshmi.gif

Hokkmike
October 22, 2007, 07:14 PM
I do, but that is just me.

Thernlund
October 22, 2007, 07:50 PM
No holster. Lays quietly on top of my socks in the top drawer.


-T.

TimboKhan
October 22, 2007, 08:27 PM
I don't have kids, and I live alone, so my gun is unholstered. Also, there is a locked and loaded AR leaning against the wall, for much the same reason as the pistol.

unlearned69
October 22, 2007, 09:07 PM
No holster. Wife and I both have pistols in the top drawers of our nightstands. They are kept company by spare mag(s) and a flashlight that are tucked far into the corner. Pistol is right in the middle of the drawer.

10-Ring
October 22, 2007, 09:15 PM
My nightstand gun is not in a holster, but in a quick access mini safe because I have kids in the house, I want to be the only one who can access it

mainebear
October 22, 2007, 09:31 PM
No Holster......No Kids

davepool
October 22, 2007, 09:44 PM
I keep it in a shoulder holster with a quick release thumb snap; holster is slung over bedpost; early warning system....large, LOUD dog

obxned
October 22, 2007, 10:02 PM
Why???

davepool
October 22, 2007, 10:21 PM
cause i don't have a nightstand

M2 Carbine
October 22, 2007, 10:56 PM
No holsters for the night stand pistols.

Ala Dan
October 22, 2007, 11:30 PM
my friend M2 Carbine's comments~! :scrutiny:;)

mavracer
October 23, 2007, 12:09 AM
yes uncle mike's IWB velcrowed in center of drawer

The Bushmaster
October 23, 2007, 12:08 PM
A mod 10 S&W 2" and a Mod 10 S&W 4" in each night stand. No holster. No kids now, but when I had kids (5) it was the same. Kids were trained...

Marlin 45 carbine
October 23, 2007, 12:35 PM
Makarov holster velcroed to bedpost. Mak loaded, hammer down on safe- flip safety down and DA if needed.
12 ga coach leaned in near corner - nite lite between shotty and Mak. Maglite 3D on headboard shelf. Marlin Camp .45/w 10 rd. mag hanging on wall hook above. the 'big boys' are there if needed.

JesseL
October 23, 2007, 12:55 PM
I don't have a "nightstand gun". I have my regular carry pistol that I take off my belt and put on the nightstand when I go to bed, so it does stay in it's holster. The only time it ever comes out of the holster is for cleaning, press checks, and shooting.

qbpc
October 23, 2007, 12:57 PM
My night stand gun will not fit in a holster it is leaned against the night stand.:D

Creature
October 23, 2007, 02:10 PM
My night stand gun will not fit in a holster it is leaned against the night stand

Now that's what I'm talking about!

Nil
October 23, 2007, 02:22 PM
I keep my pistol in a holster that has it's tension so loose that it will come off if I gently nudge it or even just bring up the pistol quickly. I'm usually at least mildly disoriented for the first few moments after waking up, so if I heard something and grabbed for my pistol, I'd like to think I'd keep my finger off the trigger but I can't make any guarantees. That's where the holster comes in; it gives me just enough extra safety precaution without slowing me down at all.

VMIRat1995
October 23, 2007, 02:26 PM
I've got a 1 year old son, so our night stand gun, an XD 40, is kept with the chamber empty and in it's own Springfield holster. BTW, that Springfield holster sucks! But, it's perfect for this job.

Before we had a kid, I kept a 642 under the bed....sans holster.

Noxx
October 23, 2007, 04:22 PM
Oddly enough, the time I least expect to be caught unprepared is in my sleep.

The bedroom is reinforced, you're not getting into my sleeping quarters in under a minute unless you brought a bobcat, and the dogs are loud. This provides me plenty of time to retrieve my loaded SKS from the bedroom closet.

All the same, the nightstand guns are unholstered and in condition one as a rule. Because we own a variety of handguns, the wife and I both practice "sweeping" a 1911 style safety whether it's there or not.

As mentioned by other posters, children would dictate a revision of our tactics, however we have none at this time (and don't think I don't hear about THAT weekly from the mother in law...)

Cannonball888
October 23, 2007, 04:42 PM
I have a dedicated nightstand gun.
M&P 40 with CTC palm swell and mounted M3 Streamlight in a Mini Gunvault.

CoRoMo
October 23, 2007, 06:34 PM
Good question. My .357 is kept loaded, on the top of my nightstand, in a 'zipper pistol case' throughout each night. Inside the nightstand during the day. The carry case can be fitted with a small padlock for security from kids.

Dogs are always a plus. They will let a heavy sleeper know that there is a threat coming.

Conqueror
October 23, 2007, 11:11 PM
No holster, just my 1911 with tac light and two loaded magazines. No kids in the house, once I have some I'll invest in a quick-open gunsafe.

sb350hp
October 23, 2007, 11:45 PM
I do not holster mine when it is in the nightstand drawer, or in my case the cupboard on our beds headboard. It sits on a computer mouse pad with a dowel just behind the balance point to elevate the grip for a very quick retrieval in case of emergency. I can get a good grip on it right away.

I would not holster unless somehow the holster was fixed or attached so that the holster would not come w/ the gun. Suddenly it is a two handed operation when you have to remove the holster from the muzzle.

aguyindallas
October 23, 2007, 11:58 PM
Yes, in the holster.

mekender
October 24, 2007, 01:32 AM
i have more than one child, so i have a finger print activated safe bolted to the top of the night stand... if i cant get to that in time, i can damn sure make it to the closet where i have a 12ga on the top shelf fully loaded and ready to go...

and btw, the 12ga is not only out of reach of the kids, but the oldest (8 years old) already knows gun safety rules and fires it regularly... so hes probably as good at defense with it as i am

bpisler
October 24, 2007, 05:47 AM
I use a nylon holster that i mounted to
the side of my nightstand with a couple
of screws.It's a short reach as i can't
reach the floor from my bed.

ChickenHawk
October 24, 2007, 02:24 PM
G36 in Condition 1 on nightstand. No holster

ChickenHawk

CoRoMo
October 24, 2007, 02:41 PM
Posted my gun situation earlier. Here's what else I've got ready...

My top drawer of nightstand contains a half box of each...
.357 hollow-points:evil:
9mm rounds (that pistol & loaded mag is under the bed in a lock box)
and a little more than a dozen 12ga shells ready to feed into my shotgun (also under the bed) given a persistent threat that those pistols can't manage to stop.:what:

Autolycus
October 24, 2007, 04:08 PM
I would keep it out of a holster. I keep a 12 gauge within a few feet of my bed.

Thernlund
October 24, 2007, 05:07 PM
A buddy and me once discussed his HD situation half jokingly. His house then was configured in such a way that his bedroom door opened up to a balcony-type "hallway" and he could see the front door from there. I told him he should ditch the gun and just use grenades. Hear a threat? Toss a grenade down there. :evil:

The mental imagery had us laughing for an hour. Side of the house gone, threat eliminated. heh heh. :D

To be on topic: Do they make holsters for grenades?

-T.

Cannonball888
October 24, 2007, 05:21 PM
To be on topic: Do they make holsters for grenades?
Yes. They're called grenade pouches :D

http://www.recon-tactical.com/images/R.A.C.K.%20Grenade%20Pouch.jpg

CU74
October 24, 2007, 06:25 PM
No children - S&W 586 on nightstand, no holster - 12 guage pump in the corner.

Average Joe
October 24, 2007, 09:26 PM
No, its ready to go 24/7

CajunBass
October 25, 2007, 10:36 AM
Naw. I usually take it out of the holster, and lay it on the nightstand.

I'm a pretty light sleeper who wakes up, wide awake. Anyone who tried to get in here, would first have to get by the outer peremeter guards: a great dane named "Ben" and a small yappy dog named "Wilson." Ben and Wilson, have the run of the compund at night, contained by an underground fence. I don't know if Ben would actually bite anyone, but he sure makes a lot of noise. Wilson is a typical "small, yappy dog." He does what small, yappy dogs do, and does it well.

IF they were able to get past the outer defenses, then the second line of defense would kick in. Four goats, and a dozen or so chickens. Ben and Wilson would have made enough noise to wake up the goats and the chickens, and they will join in the fun, loudly protesting the disturbance.

Lastly, my wife has two more small, yappy (and stupid) dogs actually inside the house. They are trained to bark at only three things. Anything, everything, and nothing. I will be awake by then, yelling at the dogs to shut-up. That should alert any intruder, that this isn't a good place to be, assuming that they had hung around that long.

ShooterMcGavin
October 25, 2007, 07:47 PM
At home, my handgun is kept on the nightstand without a holster. (no kids)
If I'm staying at a friend's house, the gun is always kept holstered.

Dick Dart
October 28, 2007, 02:35 AM
My wife and I keep a variety of weapons in the bedroom. Right now that variety consists of a S&W 640 in the nightstand, no holster; a Springfield .45 Compact on my dresser, no holster and my wife's Glock .45 on her dresser in her duty belt holster.

QUICK_DRAW_McGRAW
October 28, 2007, 04:35 PM
i keep it just like i carry full mag in it but not chambered or in the whole, safty on in my uncle mikes holster. so that there is no change from my normal routeen from carrying.

ken B
October 28, 2007, 04:58 PM
Mine is in condition 3, saftely engaged (5906 9mm)

even though my daughter is a great kid, they are all curious and I find this the safest way to do it. everything else in the house is secured, and every morning when i leave this slides in the safe, and comes out at bedtime

no holster...

Commander Guineapig
October 29, 2007, 01:56 AM
Glock, in the holster.
Now, that being said, the holster is a pancake style that pretty much keeps
it from getting lost between the mattresses.
So it pretty much just HOLDS it where I need it.
It's not chambered...because a Brit ex-army told me of studies where
humans are in very little control for the first few seconds of waking up.
From my own rude awakenings, I know this is so...and the last thing I want
to do is shoot someone bringing me breakfast in bed. :D
So I have a step or two to complete before sticking a Goldie in an intruder.
GP

Geronimo45
October 29, 2007, 02:24 AM
My primary is not kept on the nightstand, my BUG is... and usually stays in its 'holster' while there. Otherwise I might give in to the temptation to shoot my alarm clock. :p

polekitty
October 29, 2007, 04:02 AM
Personally, I prefer my P-14 1911 in my bed in condition 2. The hammer requirers enough strength cocking to get me full awake! I slept enough with a loaded M-1 in WWII that it doesn't bother me a bit. And, having had some drug activity in the neighborhoos, and a neighbors door kicked in I want my protection available RIGHT NOW! Just in passing, my sidearm is on me 24/7, and the only "youngsters" in my family all have four feet and fur!

moph759fl
October 29, 2007, 07:46 AM
Round in the tube, ready to fire but keep it in a nylon soft holster since it is on a glass top night stand. Easy to grab this way, for me, plus big dog (120lbs.) also in bed who can hear and see things I can't. I doubt BG would make it past entry door let alone to our bedroom.

possum
October 29, 2007, 02:28 PM
condition one with m6 light ready to go on my xd service model .40

scurtis_34471
October 29, 2007, 06:52 PM
I keep mine loaded, but not chambered, in the night stand drawer. I only chamber a round when I carry. The reason for that is my three year-old. There is no way she can rack the slide, but leaving a round in the chamber would be really stupid with a toddler around.

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