[Oleg Volk]

http://olegvolk.net/gallery/d/22403-2/backup9371.jpg

new caption

UPDATE: Newer poster lower on this page

[Heavy Metal Hero]

Too wordy...

[Oleg Volk]

I agree. Trying to revise it.

[damien]

Fine with me. That's the nice thing about Oleg's posters. Since there are like 100+ of them if you can target them to your audience.

Mostly.

Oleg, how about one in Spanish with a Hispanic model for the new immigrant crowd? I have noticed that up here in Illinois we have a bunch of Mexican immigrants that have embraced the 2nd Amendment, for self defense, and also for hunting. Just saw two on Sunday at both from MegaSports and Gander Mountain (Plainfield, IL) - they were doing the tour in the same order that I was looking at sporting shotguns.

[Beatnik]

Oleg, how about one in Spanish with a Hispanic model for the new immigrant crowd?

Hear, hear. It never ceases to amaze me how much Mexicans understand America.
Here in NoVA they know they've made it when they have a fullsize truck, a pair of ostrich boots, and a pistol.

[Oleg Volk]

Will do. Trying to get a Samuel Jackson clone for a poster series (the guy who trained Kit).

[DontBurnMyFlag]

something simple like

"cops wear armor for protection, but politicians think we are not worth protecting, or something blah blah.

you can figure something out. good premise though

[Thernlund]

Maybe this is out of left field, but I never like this poster. This or the prior one with only the bathrobe-clad woman (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=310404). She sort of looks like she wandered out of the emergency room (or, god forbid, the loony bin).

Different colored robe might go a long way toward changing that perception. Buuut... I might be the only one thinking that, so disregard as necessary.


-T.

[MrTwigg]

The bottom line by itself makes the better caption.

Just my $.02

[Jimmie]

I think I would do 2 things.

1) Reverse the images so the cop comes first along with her words. That sets the stage for the point your trying to prove.

2) Put the bathrobe lady's caption "Just what she can grab..." in the same format and relative position as the cop's. i.e. not below the image. That way your eye reads left to right... "see cop, see cop's words, see bathrobe lady, see bathrobe lady's words."

I really like the bottom bold "Which one needs..." caption though.

[Red Dragon]

Raccoon City cop huh? :D

[Fosbery]

STARS? If she's up against zombies I think SHE needs it more! :neener:

[Matt King]

I would get rid of the "Just what she can grab when attacked" It clutters up the image a bit.

[6_gunner]

I would get rid of the "Just what she can grab when attacked" It clutters up the image a bit.

+1

Other than that, I think it's fine.

[Nolo]

How about "What's at hand"?

[Doggy Daddy]

Maybe instead use bullet lists (no pun intended :D ) to speed up comprehension, and it won't seem wordy.

e.g.

Resources:

partner
extra ammo
backup
body armor


Resources:

whatever is at hand

[Gord]

I also think it'd be a bit more effective if Kit-in-Robe were shot in the same profile as Kit-the-Cop - they would look a bit more alike.

[TexasRifleman]

I love the idea...

"Who deserves to be able to defend herself more? The one with the body armor and partner or the one awakened at 1am by a burglar"

Hmm, still too wordy. Tough to say with few words, but a great theme.

[cwmcgu2]

I think the non-cop one needs to be a hot college girl in just her bra and panties like she just woke up... you know to bring up the whole vulnerability image... :D

[MountainPeak]

"SO THEN HILLARY.......talked to your husband lately?"

[strat81]

I like how the cop's sidearm matches her rifle. Very chic.

[ReadyontheRight]

"To Protect and Serve AFTER an Attack"

"To Protect Her Life WHEN Attacked"

"Which civilian doesn't deserve a modern weapon?"

[Oleg Volk]

Thanks for the feedback. Here's a more concise version.

http://olegvolk.net/gallery/d/22414-2/backup9371-2.jpg

[kd7nqb]

I think the non-cop one needs to be a hot college girl in just her bra and panties like she just woke up... you know to bring up the whole vulnerability image...

I LIKE IT


I like the first version of the poster, more than the 2nd. I dont like the posters where your staring down the bad end of a gun.

[RonE]

Texas Rifleman is on the right track...."Who deserves to be able to defend herself more? The one with the body armor and partner or the one awakened at 1am by a burglar"....

How about: At home or on the job Who deserves to be able to defend herself more?

[sm]

What about?

The Right To Defend
<pic>
Is Not Job Dependent

My first impression, is a lady officer, off duty and being a lady , off work like any other lady.


No different than a lady Firefighter coming home and not being able to have a smoke alarm, fire extinguisher, or first aid kid.

Lady got a Right to stay safe...no matter what.

[Average Guy]

The cop needs to tighten up that bun. :)

[RKBABob]

:) The 2nd poser is perfect... makes a clear point in less than 30 seconds! :)


I think the non-cop one needs to be a hot college girl in just her bra and panties like she just woke up... :evil: Well, if that was the case, help would probably arrive for her faster than backup would arrive for the officer! :evil:

[bogie]

Lose the sling.

Oleg, you keep trying to be tacticool... The fence sitters who this stuff would be best targeted at (a) don't get it; and (b) are sometimes scared by it. This image would be FAR more effective with just a Beretta 92...

[Sylvan-Forge]

What is tacticool about a sling? :rolleyes: :p

I'd hazard a guess and say the message in question (which I think is good, by the way) was developed for current use in response to various looming "assault" weapon legislation.

[Oleg Volk]

It's a plain AR without even an optic. Nothing tactical. It's not even a black rifle :-)

[TexasRifleman]

Oh I like that much better now.

Much easier read.

[armoredman]

Second one is better, nice rifle.

[TallPine]

I like the second one better, but to tell the truth - any poster with Kit in it is a good poster ;)

[BobMcG]

I like the second poster best of the two.

And: The sling doesn't bother me and with the muzzle angled off to the side that doesn't bother me either. :)

[ReadyontheRight]

I like the second poster better as well. Nice work as always Oleg!

[Mr. Designer]

How about the tag, "Modern Defense Arms For All" or something like that. Keep it simple and the "For All" refers to the pledge of allegiance.

[ChickenHawk]

The second version is outstanding!

[bogie]

You just woke up. You barely had time for a bathrobe. Are you gonna screw around wrapping some sorta tactical carry sling all over you? Personally, something goes bump, I grab the .45. If something _really_ goes bump, I grab the 'gauge...

[Oleg Volk]

I don't notice you stopping by to model for posters, bogie. Show up and then we will talk!

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

What about?

The Right To Defend
<pic>
Is Not Job Dependent

My first impression, is a lady officer, off duty and being a lady , off work like any other lady.


No different than a lady Firefighter coming home and not being able to have a smoke alarm, fire extinguisher, or first aid kid.

Lady got a Right to stay safe...no matter what.

This makes much more sense to me.The first poster and even the second makes it seem like the police don't have to deal with thugs on the streets. If anything an officer will use an AR-15 for defense/protection more than an home owner will for HD, but that is not the point.

It'd be much better if it was something more similar to the lines of:

"The right to self protection does not stop when the shift ends."

[sterling180]

Well I think that she needs more protection than that,if she is to patrol the mean or dead streets of Raccoon City.Barry with a rocket launcher and a Python,then the dreaded Tyrant.Well it could be Jill Valentine and yes that is an M4A1 Carbine style rifle isn't it? Or Jill in her dressing gown,trying to flee Raccoon City.

[Oleg Volk]

She has bigger guns, too:

http://olegvolk.net/gallery/d/22423-2/longlegs0167.jpg

[vis-à-vis]

I don't like the Kit Connor one. It's just silly.

[kd7nqb]

WOW Kit is a nice looking gal. I like that last one.

[bogie]

Next time I putt past the 'Ville, you'll know... Furthest south I've been this year has been Knob Creek...

What toys should I bring?

[bogie]

Vis, you NEED to go see a doctor. Now.

[mustanger98]

I had to look back at the second version. I like it better, but I agree with another poster... lose the sling. She ain't even had time to wipe the sleep out of her eyes. Who's gonna gear up like that on that short a notice?

In my case, it's a S&W N-frame .357 or a repeatin' Winchester (no sling). AR's may be popular, but regardless of how many toys they have or don't have, they're not one-size-fits-all.

[vis-à-vis]

Vis, you NEED to go see a doctor. Now.

Sorry mate. She'd look better in an outfit that doesn't scream prostitution I would think. I like the rifle though. Does that help?

[Red Dragon]

She'd look better in an outfit that doesn't scream prostitution I would think

I don't think that is a fair description of her outfit. It hardly screams prostitution.

[Oleg Volk]

She is a cop, hence the caption.

[akodo]

what?

Is that supposed to be a lesbian couple?

that poster makes no sense....

Oh wait, I see it now, 'armed partner' means an off screen cop...


I'd put the cop first, have another cop small and in the background, out of focus or something.

[JKimball]

The fence sitters who this stuff would be best targeted at (a) don't get it; and (b) are sometimes scared by it. This image would be FAR more effective with just a Beretta 92...

I think the fence sitters bogie is talking about would never imagine the need of a nice lady like that to have such a gun. I'd say that is exactly why it is effective. At least it gets the wheels turning in their heads, so that even if they haven't imagined it, now they can see it and consider it.

Nice work, Oleg. I like the revisions too.

[engineer151515]

Very nice work Oleg.

As always.



caption in search of a poster:

"It is Immoral to disarm the Innocent."

[possum]

I don't like the Kit Connor one. It's just silly.

i haven't found many that i have liked. oleg volk it is a great thing that you are trying to do but i just think you are "trying" to hard. i might get flamed and that is cool, this is a forum and my opinion is that they are just bad, i am not gonna fall into the "great work as always oleg" because i don't feel that they are. can i take pics no but that isn't what i do, do i make posters no i have no idea how to do that, but this is just totally off in la la land some of these posters. there have been a few in the past that were good, but on a whole i find myself shaking my head when i see one of these post. and saying not again, man come on. i keep going to the threads hoping that they will be better than the last but they seem to get farther and farther from " good work".

[lamazza]

I like the first one better.

[vis-à-vis]

i haven't found many that i have liked. oleg volk it is a great thing that you are trying to do but i just think you are "trying" to hard. i might get flamed and that is cool, this is a forum and my opinion is that they are just bad, i am not gonna fall into the "great work as always oleg" because i don't feel that they are. can i take pics no but that isn't what i do, do i make posters no i have no idea how to do that, but this is just totally off in la la land some of these posters. there have been a few in the past that were good, but on a whole i find myself shaking my head when i see one of these post. and saying not again, man come on. i keep going to the threads hoping that they will be better than the last but they seem to get farther and farther from " good work".

I agree and I mean no offense as it's just my critique. I like a number of different things you put out, but most of the time I think they are silly.

[sm]

I don't like the Kit Connor one. It's just silly.

Kit is a Cop, she is also a lady.

Don't matter, she has a right to be safe. Be this good locks on the house, motion lights, a dawg, alarm system or firearms.
Firearms : She has a right to use whatever firearm she chooses.

Kit may be a cop, she is still a lady. She has a right to wear little black dresses , heels, jewelry, have her hair and face made up and whatever to go out.

She has a right to wear a bathrobe and wake up with "just woke up look".

Heck I bet she has some "Frumpy" clothes, like sweats, tattered sweat shirt, tennis shoes with dirty shoe strings, and these are just comfy, snuggly clothes a lady likes to wear at home.

Kit is a cop, she has a right to all this whether she is cop or not.
Also, who is to say Kit may be in any other attire, and have a need to defend?
Come home from the Theatre, in that little black dress and hills and before she changes clothes - a serious situation arises.

Who is to say Kit does not for Police Work, dress in a little black dress?
Maybe be wearing a bathrobe and her role is to look a lady that just woke up and needs coffee?

Maybe wear Frumpy clothes for a role in Police work?

Kit is centered, she knows who she is. She is attractive, smart, talented and trained.

She can play the role of a Hi-Roller for undercover work in a little black dress.
Hi-Priced Escort for the same reason.

Maybe the thugs that did harm get word some gal in a trailer will hide them, sell them stolen guns and have a stolen car for them, some gal in a blue bathrobe and all?

Oleg does good work.
Kit has her talents and skills and these come out as she too knows how to do photography.

Maybe the old adage :Not the shooting iron , instead the shooter

applies here too.

;)

[Oleg Volk]

I like constructive criticism. If the posters are so bad that nothing can be said, at least provide me with a lineup of good and bad examples and explain why you deem some of them better than others.

By the way, I also have photos with workout sweats and denum jeans and jacket. We have everything from M14 to a flintlock and a few in-between. I do think that some of my older posters were punchier...but many were also technically inaccurate.

[Owens]

Not sure how you do it Oleg, but keep it up! Great work.

[ClickClickD'oh]

She has bigger guns, too:

Okay, I know there's a gun somewhere in that poster but... I'll have to look again :what:

[ReadyontheRight]

It's "...great work as always Oleg..." because these images are excellent photography and they GET USED through Oleg's public forums by many, many people. On both sides of the issue. They all show that gun ownership and gun handling by folks from all walks of life is a regular, everyday thing.

There is no be all/end all poster that will suddenly make everyone in the world stop in their tracks and say "hey - those gun-totin' rednecks were right all along!", but every once in a while, I can go and find an Oleg poster that EXACTLY explains a point I am trying to make.

P=1k*W

Like stepping stones in a mud puddle. The more the better.

I cannot help but bring forward my favorite quote:

"It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."

Theodore Roosevelt "Citizenship in a Republic,"
Speech at the Sorbonne, Paris, April 23, 1910

[ReadyontheRight]

And Oleg - Regarding the Kit Connor photo, please try to keep it gun-related. I mean at least put a gun or a knife or something in the picture.:p

Very nice photog work, as always.

[bogie]

Oleg, technical accuracy is a "nice to have." Getting the message across is #1. Everything else is more or less second place.

Remember that many audience members know two things about boomsticks - jack and... Well... You know...

And some folks are WAY to rigid in their self-repression...

[sm]

Oleg,

On the Kit Conner, a consideration if you will.
Forget the Cop angle, instead just a lady speaking to other ladies.
I mean the ladies have a right to have their fun, innuendo's about guys, and Pro Gun stuff too.
Let us be honest, we are trying to attract more ladies, and to me, ladies have a right to be suggestive, and be naughty if they want.
Like some of the ads in Cosmopolitan.



Captions:


-Tall, Dark and Handsome.

-Gals, snagged mine, where is yours?

- Got it - Flaunt it Gals.

- Look who is spending the night?

- We gonna snuggle up and dance real close!

[Prince Yamato]

Oleg, would you please get rid of that damn green AR. It's hideous. Seriously. Get one in black or something more neutral. I saw it in one of your earlier works and I thought it was a fluke, but it keeps reappearing. Or better yet, make it an AK or something less politically correct.

[Oleg Volk]

I just sold that rifle. The next ARs will be baby blue and pink. Seriously.

[sm]

Oleg,
You don't listen to me. :)

Yeller base color (more yeller than yellow) , 70's era tie dye paint, that actually shows under blacklight.

Kit in a tie dye shirt, jeans, Puma tennis shows (they still make these??)
Steal Captions from Jimi Henrix tunes.

-All along the Watchtower.

-'Cuse me while I kiss the sky.

-Hey Joe, where you going with that gun?


So...just how much trouble am I in with Kit anyways?


Steve

[bogie]

Stevie, you're in a LOT of trouble.

Because you're obviously not sharing from the Secret Stash.

Now PASS!

Oleg, remember the target audience. It is NOT people who already own Kalashnikitty t-shirts. Howzabout I bring down a coupla 12 gauge side by sides?

[Josh Aston]

I like constructive criticism. If the posters are so bad that nothing can be said, at least provide me with a lineup of good and bad examples and explain why you deem some of them better than others.

The pictures are fine, excellent actually. The only problem I see with the posters is that they are too wordy. Just my opinion, I think the second poster with this would be perfect.

The Right To Defend
<pic>
Is Not Job Dependent

[Oleg Volk]

Thanks for the suggestions.

I try to mix modern and older guns -- have to show ARs as mainstream, if possible.

[sm]

We are trying to attract more folks.
Ladies are a group we want to attract.

Okay, let us be honest here. Ladies sometimes want to be what they want to be and not the stereotype of Media, Politicians or anyone else.

Some times a lady, mom or not , wants to be a Lady in a little black dress, be a Frumpy girl in frumpy clothes , be silly, and goof off, be Professional in her work, Cop, Doctor, Lawyer, College PhD instructor,EMT, FirePerson, take a bubble bath with a glass of wine and candles...

Still even a Mom, with a sidearm , with brat in the high-chair , spitting out the green peas, carrots or maybe brat having a big time smearing Spaghetti O's all over the tray - can attract another mom.

"Heavens! I can relate to that scene! IF she can pack a pistol and contend with a brat - by golly I can too!"


Since I know have a APB out on me where Kit is a Cop. ;)
(is there a lawyer in this joint?)

Photo: Kit taking a bubble bath, Some simple firearm, 1100 20ga used for Skeet for example, leaned up near the tub

Caption :
Calgon takes me away

1100 keeps the BGs at bay.


Do a funny one:

Lady with a firearm and the Caption:

-Does this make my butt look big?

-Does this clash with this outfit?


MSM, Politicians, would get ticked off seeing how Ladies are NOT the stereotype, often portrayed.
PLUS Pro Gun ladies are represented by females from kids to Grandma's , with all sorts of education levels ,professions and roles.
Funny, Flirty, Sexy, Seductive, Serious, Professional....


Bad hair day, best wear the STI hat and CCW the Beretta.

[Oleg Volk]

I have a plan. Will go to http://corneredcat.com and try to illustrate Kathy's points.

[cyclist]

How about this: (with either picture, but the second one may line up better)

..........< officer picture >.........<off/non uniformed picture>
"The right to self defense" "should not require a badge"

[Joey_the_Wolf]

Although I really liked the first poster, I agree that the second one is more direct and to the point. I like them both though, very good work as always (I'm a big fan).

Also, on a more humorous note, I thought I was the only one who noticed the Raccoon City Police Dept STARS uniform (from the Resident Evil series, which I'm also a fan of), hahaha

[RKBABob]

How about a poster with out the rifle, and no gun handling at all. Why not show two pictures of Kit (or any other female) side by side...
The 1st pic would be of a police officer, in a street setting, with a pistol clearly visible in a belt holster...
the 2nd pic of the same person in plain clothes, perhaps hanging up her coat in her home, with a holster also visible.
The caption could read: "A woman's right to self-defense..." across the top, and at the bottom "is not dependant on wearing a uniform."

Good job, by the way! I like the way you use females in many of your posters. It softens the image of gun ownership, and gets the point across in a less intimidating, or "in your face" way. I'd imagine female fence-sitters are swayed more easily by this, than by images of tough guys with guns.



I just sold that rifle. The next ARs will be baby blue and pink. Seriously. Cool! :cool: I like COLORFUL guns. Now how do I convince my wife that she needs a powder pink AR? :scrutiny:

[Fosbery]

One of her in that dress, from the side, prone, shooting that M14/M1A (damned if I can tell, haven't seen either in a couple of decades) or maybe a DMR-type AR? Reach out and touch someone, and look good doing it :D

[Library Guy]

Mr. Volk,

At the risk of sounding crass, I have to admit that the Long Legs of Law picture stopped my heart.

Several times.

When I recover I'm going to risk another look.

kind regards,

LG