Vintage Revolver Suggestions


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deolexrex
October 23, 2007, 03:54 PM
I have a friend (http://greatwolf.blogpeoria.com/) that is a role playing game designer. He needs a revolver for one of the story lines.

- vintage revolver
- open market value about $3,000
- preferably distinctive visual appearance
- preferably still fireable with modern munitions

I pointed him at the LeMat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LeMat_Revolver), which he likes, but he's looking for other options.

Anyone?

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Geronimo45
October 23, 2007, 03:56 PM
Webley-Fosbery semi-auto revolver?

hacksaw
October 23, 2007, 04:13 PM
Smith & Wesson Schofield/No 3 revolver?

Gustav
October 23, 2007, 04:16 PM
Nickel plated Colt Peacemaker buntline special with shoulder stock

billhilly66
October 23, 2007, 04:25 PM
S&W registered magnum?

deolexrex
October 23, 2007, 04:28 PM
These are great! Thanks!

My friend is watching the thread so would it be possible for y'all to post links to pictures and info?

Sage of Seattle
October 23, 2007, 04:28 PM
I'm not questioning your friend, but I've been running and playing RPG's for over twenty years now and I'm kind of at a loss at why the metagame aspects are so important?

Back to topic, one of my characters once had twin nickel plated Colt Peacemakers with scrimshawed mother-of-pearl handgrips. One of those in original condition might very well fetch three grand as well as being fairly distinct.

ETA: In other words, throw a pair of those handgrips on what Gustav said. :D

Ala Dan
October 23, 2007, 05:02 PM
1877 Colt Lightning~! :scrutiny:;)

GreatWolf
October 23, 2007, 05:11 PM
I'm not questioning your friend, but I've been running and playing RPG's for over twenty years now and I'm kind of at a loss at why the metagame aspects are so important?

Mostly because I know enough folks who are serious about firearms, so I don't want to just "make it up" in this case. Plus, I'm recording the sessions to use in promoting my game (http://www.indiepressrevolution.com/xcart/product.php?productid=16345&cat=0&page=1&featured), so I'd like to avoid looking completely stupid to someone who knows what's up.

:cool:

Seth Ben-Ezra
Great Wolf

Halo is for Kids
October 23, 2007, 05:15 PM
+1 on the LeMat. It was my first thought too.
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/content/Pod/03/66/61/p036661hz04.jpg

Vern Humphrey
October 23, 2007, 05:24 PM
I have a friend that is a role playing game designer. He needs a revolver for one of the story lines.

- vintage revolver
- open market value about $3,000
- preferably distinctive visual appearance
- preferably still fireable with modern munitions

I pointed him at the LeMat, which he likes, but he's looking for other options.
The LeMat, being a cap and ball revolver, doesn't meet the specification in bold.

Not knowing the story line, I'd suggest the SAA in either .45 Colt or .44-40. The Smith & Wesson #3 would also be a good choice in either .44 Smith & Wesson or .45 S&W ("Short Colt.").

deolexrex
October 23, 2007, 05:28 PM
Yeah, he didn't tell me about the modern ammo thing until after I had given him my recommendation. But if you'll notice from the photo above... that is one purty pop gun!

Vern Humphrey
October 23, 2007, 05:39 PM
That underhanded so and so!

rcmodel
October 23, 2007, 05:39 PM
How vintage?
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=83058040

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=83496608

http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=8306699

http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=7899217

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=83503142



http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j219/rcmodel/KTOG/1224.gif
rcmodel

Cosmoline
October 23, 2007, 05:56 PM
To my mind, vintage means 1899 to about 1950. It's something less old than antique, which in firearms has a very specific meaning as we all know. I'd suggest the Colt New Army, Official Police, Police Positive Special and the early Smith K frames as good examples of pre-war vintage handguns still able to fire commercially available ammo. The vintage DA's are not generally worth a mint, but some of the rare subtypes or ones in 100% condition can get upwards of a grand. The single action Colts can get over $3,000.

earplug
October 23, 2007, 06:11 PM
I like the idea of the Webley Fosbery, moon clipped.

Or the top break S&W's for A close 2nd choice.

Gordon
October 24, 2007, 01:25 AM
2n'd the Webley-Fosberry , and also the .44special S&W Triple Lock in the rare 4" version. Personally a Merwin and Hulbert 3rd model Army in 44-40 with quick change 3.5" and 6.5" barrels is pretty sweet too.

Gordon
October 24, 2007, 01:26 AM
2n'd the Webley-Fosberry , and also the .44special S&W Triple Lock in the rare 4" version. Personally a Merwin and Hulbert 4th model Army in 44-40 with quick change 3.5" and 6.5" barrels is pretty sweet too.

http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=83415902

32 Magnum
October 24, 2007, 02:03 AM
Here's one that isn't seen very often and fits your requirements.
http://links.pictures.aol.com/pic/3a801bKHZjw5LSpU-hLPMr3Jasfiq87IFotLv4xQp5Fd3Ig=_l.jpg

Grey54956
October 24, 2007, 12:16 PM
Could always go with a Rast-Gasser Model 1898. These are quirky and very cool. Ammunition is available, but can be expensive.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=83373403

MCgunner
October 24, 2007, 12:19 PM
It ain't no 3000 dollar gun, more like 100, but the Russian Nagant is sorta weird lookin'. The trigger is aweful, but if it's just for a video game pattern, you won't have to shoot it, thankfully, LOL!

Or, how about this Belgian revolver?

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=33081&d=1135638397

rcmodel
October 24, 2007, 03:10 PM
I like the idea of the Webley Fosbery, moon clipped.Not sure how you could moon-clip a .455 Webley?
There is no groove on the rimmed case for a clip it fit in.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j219/rcmodel/KTOG/1224.gif
rcmodel

zoom6zoom
October 24, 2007, 03:25 PM
Anyone who mods a Fosbery for moon clips deserves to be shot with it. Other Webleys like the Mk VI are converted by machining down the back of the cylinder, and then use .45ACP rather than the original .455

Not exactly vintage, but how about a Mateba?

roscoe
October 24, 2007, 06:58 PM
Webley Fosberry, or just a break action Webley (distinctive, as seen in Indiana Jones and the last Crusade).

Geronimo45
October 25, 2007, 01:57 AM
The Webley-Fosbery:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ad/Webley-Fosbery_1837.jpg/800px-Webley-Fosbery_1837.jpg

Initial production was made in caliber .455 (the British service cartridge), with subsequent offerings including chamberings in .38 ACP. (The .38 ACP chambering required the use of a moon clip like those used with US M1917 .45 ACP revolvers.)
Not sure what .38 ACP is... but the Webley in that caliber had an eight-round capacity instead of six.

http://www.freewebtown.com/futru/downloads/Fosberry.htm
Webley was featured shortly in the Maltese Falcon and more prominently in the... description-defying film known as 'Zardoz'.

Fisherman_48768
October 25, 2007, 03:02 AM
S&W #3 44 Russianhttp://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a149/Fisherman_48768/SW3rightview.jpg

S&W 45 Schofield http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a149/Fisherman_48768/1875schofield45l.jpg

P-08 30 Lugerhttp://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a149/Fisherman_48768/Luger1920Commercial.jpg

Cosmoline
October 25, 2007, 02:44 PM
If it's a bad guy, something ornate and semiautomatic is always in order. Like an engraved special issue Swiss luger or a minty sharp Mauser C-96.

GunTech
October 25, 2007, 03:15 PM
There are a huge number of non-US revolvers, but I doubt mosty would be anywhere near you $3000 range unless embellished/engraved.

Adams and all it's variations
Webley and variations

Too many Belgian, French, Swiss revolvers to mention

frenchbushmaster
October 25, 2007, 03:29 PM
And why not a French revolver St ETIENNE 1873 (grey) or 1874 (black).;)

http://armes-et-tir.net/galerie/albums/userpics/10100/mes_73_et_mon_74_4.JPG

It's the two revolver actor BRENDAN Fraser use in the movie "The Mummy".
My french touch !! :D

Caliber 11mm 1873

Load like a COLT 1873 SAA but with double action.

:)

barman
October 25, 2007, 06:23 PM
I've got two of them too!! I just love them, and they're great to shoot with.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/river_of_deceit/revolver/DSC00024.jpg

Dr.Rob
October 26, 2007, 05:37 AM
Colt New Service "Fitz" Special. A real Fitz will indeed set you back over $3K

"The grandest defense gun I have ever had was a Colt .45 New Service with the barrel cut down to two inches. The hammer had been dehorned ... the trigger guard was cut entirely away in the front ... the grip was shortened ... it was a whiz for the purpose intended." (Col. Charles Askins)

"Perhaps some would like to ask why I cut up a good revolver and here is the answer: The trigger guard is cut away to allow more finger room and for use when gloves are worn. The hammer spur is cut away to allow drawing from the pocket or from under the coat without catching or snagging in the cloth and eliminates the use of thumb over hammer when drawing. The butt is rounded to allow the revolver to easily slide into firing position in the hand. The top of the cut-away hammer may be lightly checked to assist in cocking for a long-range shot." (Fitzgerald, the Colt custom gunsmith)

SaxonPig
October 26, 2007, 11:02 AM
Not sure what time frame you mean, but here are a few of my favorites from 1915-1950.

A 1917 Smith & Wesson 1st Model Hand Ejector .455 “triple Lock.”

http://www.fototime.com/439775A9A866E90/standard.jpg

A 1917 Colt New Service sold in London in .455 Caliber (later converted to .45 Colt).

http://www.fototime.com/C49975FD21E312C/standard.jpg

A 1930 Colt Officers Model Target .22 (also made in .38 Special).

http://www.fototime.com/AC9913783187746/standard.jpg

The Smith & Wesson .357 Magnum “Registered Magnum” 1935-1939.

http://www.fototime.com/32943BDBDF61059/standard.jpg

A Smith & Wesson 3rd Model Hand Ejector .44 Special (Model of 1926).

http://www.fototime.com/D37EE11E8B91E88/standard.jpg

A Pre-War Smith & Wesson “Heavy Duty” 38/44 revolver with rare (less than 100 made) 4” barrel.

http://www.fototime.com/9C7C487770DB7D1/standard.jpg

A pair of 1949 Smith& Wesson Military & Police .38 Specials.

http://www.fototime.com/4F9763030EBF90D/standard.jpg

A 1950 Smith & Wesson Post-War .357 Magnum with the 3.5” barrel.

http://www.fototime.com/FDDFBC47FA2B6DB/standard.jpg

tinygnat219
October 26, 2007, 12:13 PM
How about this one?
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=303376&highlight=Vampire

It should meet all the requirements. It's vintage, the Colt Detective Special. It fires modern ammunition, and with that engraving, it'd sell for about 3K.

Brian Williams
October 26, 2007, 01:37 PM
Saxonpig hit what I would consider as some of the most viable ptions but left out the Colt SAA, other than that, the European revolvers look wierd and would not transition to a game as well.

SaxonPig
October 26, 2007, 07:19 PM
Oh, you want an SAA? How about this one in .44 Special wearing ivory?

http://www.fototime.com/37103D40DDF5EFB/standard.jpg

Brian Williams
October 26, 2007, 10:44 PM
Yep, that would do... along with any of the others you posted.

DC3-CVN-72
October 26, 2007, 10:49 PM
I'm with Halow is for Kids !

macadore
October 26, 2007, 11:26 PM
The Webley top break revolvers (http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg91-e.htm )
and Nagant revolvers (http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg102-e.htm ) are pretty distinctive looking.

mec
October 26, 2007, 11:46 PM
http://crimsonsguns.tripod.com/Mauser_C96_AdamsGuns.jpg
Might want to research this one. Highly popular from mid 1890s through the Bolshevik revolution and afterward:

and here is a real stand out, the Austrian Schwartlose of 1898:
http://www.earmi.it/armi/img/schwarzlose93.jpg
A lock breach pistol chambered for a brisk bottlenecked 7.63 cartridge. It was the first to have a magazine tab to lock the bolt open on the last round. They made it into the united states and were distributed by Bannerman's in the early 1900s.

earplug
October 27, 2007, 12:09 AM
Nato sure if it would meet the criteria, A Dardic (sp?) with its trounds rounds.
More useless homework to do.

Erik
October 27, 2007, 12:32 AM
S&W Registered (or unRegistered) Magnum.

jrfoxx
October 27, 2007, 07:37 AM
Nickel plated Colt Peacemaker
I'll second that.Nickle Colt's make me all tingly...:D, And mines just a Trooper MKIII......

Phil DeGraves
October 29, 2007, 01:43 PM
How about a Remington 1875? Or a Merwin Hulbert 44-40?

Sniper X
October 29, 2007, 02:42 PM
One of the most beautiful, vintage and best guns ever made. Either the Dimondback, or the Python.

GeezerwithGuns
May 15, 2009, 12:45 PM
Please delete ...... posted by mistake

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