Shooting Gaschecked Bullets WithOut the Gascheck
gipperdog
October 24, 2007, 06:15 PM
How does this usually fair? I have a couple of molds in .45 & .44 (the 300 grainers by LEE) that produce gaschecked bullets. Now, If I shoot these without the gaschecks, how does that usually work out? Poor Accuracy? Poor Ignition? Or no noticable affect at all?
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dmftoy1
October 24, 2007, 06:31 PM
It'll probably depend on how hard your alloy is and how fast you're pushing them but I'd expect you'll see some leading.
Just my .02
Regards,
Dave
gipperdog
October 24, 2007, 07:19 PM
I'm using straight wheelweights water quenched. My lube is 50/50 Beeswax/Alox. I don't expect to push them more than 1200 fps most likely between 1050 (.45) & 1150 (.44) fps.
wcwhitey
October 24, 2007, 09:11 PM
Gipper, they should work as well as most bevel base cast bullets. I prefer plain/flat based bullets in my loads. Not being a flat base you cannot expect the soft alloy to slug up. Leading may or may not be an issue at those velocities, too many variables. I am wondering why you don't spring for the gas checks, they are cheap enough. They are one good way to ensure leading free shooting. Quite simply they work. :)
Walkalong
October 24, 2007, 09:37 PM
They will work fine if the alloy is the right hardness.
trickyasafox
October 25, 2007, 12:13 AM
if you get leading try air cooling them. sometimes a softer alloy can clear things up. . .. or so i hear. :0
QuickRick
October 25, 2007, 08:38 AM
I think they shoot just as well as the plain base bullets. They can be messy through a conventional luber sizer. This can be avoided by using Lee liquid or similar lubes. I like gas check designs (especially for rifle calibers) because I can shoot practice velocity loads without the gas checks or full power loads with them. Thus the GC mold performs a dual role.
armoredman
October 25, 2007, 10:02 AM
I've been shooting Lee C358-158-SWC without the check, in my Model 10-8, cast straight wheel weight, air cooled, no leading, no problem.
gipperdog
October 25, 2007, 06:14 PM
WCWHITEY - I've got gaschecks for both that were mentioned. I was just wondering how well they'd work without though. With the price of copper going way up, gas checks are going up too. Last time I bought any gaschecks for my 45 or 44, they were under $20 per 1000. Now even when ordering online, the 45 gaschecks are $29. That's a big increase. At least I think so. I've also thought about using the Corbin set up to make my own, but that cost's so much, I'll shoot plain base first.
wcwhitey
October 25, 2007, 08:21 PM
Gipper, I understand, prices are making many of us try new things. Probably a good thing, might find another magic combination. I stand by my suggestion, treat them like commercial bevel base bullets. All the hardness and lube considerations apply. Bill
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