[woodstock72000@yahoo.com]

Anyone know where I can find a layout or some kind of drawings of the set-up that the IPSC or IDPA use in their handgun competions? Like the way the targets are situated, distance, position of the shooter,etc. I`ve looked all over the net but can`t find any.

[distra]

Try here. http://hcgc.net/IDPA/COF/index.htm

[Citroen]

Both use stages that are different and often left to imagination of the host club. You should be able to find the "standards" for USPSA on their website.

In general, IDPA shots at shorter distances normally, out to 15 yards, I think.

John
Charlotte, NC

[yar]

http://www.madtrigger.net/smf/index.php?board=8.0

http://www.madtrigger.net/smf/index.php?topic=36.0

these are stages i designrd for local steel and ipsc matches. you can aslo find videos of me shootins said stages on madtrigger.com

[woodstock72000@yahoo.com]

I tried that USPSA site with no results.

[yar]

it's under classifiers and you will need to log in as a uspsa member to view them iirc

[yar]

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=yar1182

stage diagrams are hard to read. Heck we have a hard enough time understanding them when we are at the match, have the actual stage in front of us, and have an idea of what we are suppose to do. It's easier just to watch the videos. I also got stuff on youtube but the wmv files on madtrigger.com are of much better quality. You can do a search on youtube for uspsa, ipsc, idpa, 3 gun

[woodstock72000@yahoo.com]

Sounds like a few of you guys participate in some of the matches. Do ya`? How long do they usually last? Is there a prize pool?

[woodstock72000@yahoo.com]

I`ve been fooling around locally and I`m trying to find out some info. about them without going through all of the joining,signing up, etc.etc.

I wonder what you have to do in order to have matches that are recognized by either of the two? You know, like get some guys together in my area, join one of the two orgs. and have matches that are recognized, sponsered or whatever. Which one of the two are the best?

[yar]

Well you will need to make arrangements at a range. I do not believe any organizations will santion matches at outlaw ranges though I'm not sure how they would check. Generally the range makes a few $$$ per shooter. Standard around here is $5 per shooter.

Second your going to need insurance. You can do your own or make arrangements through the range. Most of the clubs around here seem to use the insurance provided though the NRA. This will cover the club and match director somewhat if anyone does something stupid.

Then you join a organization if you choose. Again your going to have to pay $$$ and follow their guidlines for setting up and adminstering your matches.

Lastly your going to need targets or regulation targets to be specific. These run about 50 cents each or as low as 31 cents if you buy in bulk. Targets are a consumable.

As you can see it is not easy or cheap.

Some clubs run their own unsantioned match under the label of "practical pistol" or "Practical plus"

Just get yourself a idpa and uspsa rulebook and use the equipment guidlines, scoring guidlines, etc that you choose. Most common the format goes with IDPA like time plus scoring there center hits are zero time added, and outside hits or misses vary from +1, +3, +5, or +10 seconds. Just take the overall time of the competitior to complete the couse of fire and add in any penalties for sloppy hits, misses, or procedurals. Equipment guidlines and all other rules follow USPSA.

Oh your also going to need a shot timer if you don't already have one, score sheets, etc.

[woodstock72000@yahoo.com]

I`m a member of a range that , up until Clinton, was used by the military for their cerification and the weekend warriors for their range time. The range has kinda fallen off as far as handguns are concerned but we still have a few matches here and there. All of the insurance, targets , etc. are covered by membership fees. But I was curious about sanctioned matches for the guys that were interested in this idea. The number of entries that there must be and target shapes and sizes, fees, rules, etc. along with their match layouts are the things that I`m trying to get info. about. We`ve got a pretty good place for these matches and a decent amount of guys but we would like to know about these things before we pay to join either one of them. So there`s no prize pool? What about working your way to a national final? Have you got to participate in a certain amount of matches to qualify? Travel etc.etc.

[distra]

http://www.idpa.com/ should answer your IDPA questions. I run club tactical matches much like yar described. It is run at our club for club members and your "prize" is not paying for the round. IDPA has qualifying times for various divisions based on pistol specs. The rule book, which you can download, has all the pistol information and match logistics.

[woodstock72000@yahoo.com]

your "prize" is not paying for the round

Well I think that with all of the fees, membership dues, the cost of ammo, the travel expense, i could go on but I think that you get the point, that there should be "prize money, a gun, some ammo or something" to be awarded to the top guns. These organizations make a fortune off of our hobbies and most don`t pay out a penny. That`s BS. Forgive me if you think differently but I`ve had my fair share of all pay and no return.

[Jim Watson]

It is against IDPA rules for any money or merchandise prize to be awarded for match placement. Winners in sanctioned matches get trophies. Winners in club matches get the fun. If the organizers have scrounged giveaways they go by random drawing.

If you want to WIN something nice for a top score, shoot IPSC/USPSA where the big matches have large valuable prize tables. And get very, very good.

[distra]

Our club used to do sancitioned matches, IPSC, but it got to be too much of a hassle and interest wained. We switched to doing just club matches basically for fun. I charge $2 per match and the money goes to buy targets, tape, timer, wood for target stands, etc. So if you win a match, you don't pay. I'm not too fond of joining the sanctioned organizations either. You could try to get a few sponsors on your own to put some prizes and run the match the way you want. You could also take the entry fees and turn them into cash prizes to get started. There are a lot of ways to hold the matches and give out prizes. Your biggest issue might be getting the club you shoot at to agree to hold the match. Around here that's the biggest issue we face.

[jmorris]

IIRC when I contacted USPSA to charter a new club they needed a list of 20 members that were already members or would join. They will send you a packet out by mail and hook you up with your area coordinator. If you want to put on a sanctioned match for IDPA you have to send the stages you intend to shoot to the AC for approval first. Your match director must be a certified safety officer, but hopefully all of your RO’s are. You will need quite a crew to put on a large “flowing” match. You’ll need folks for everything including signup, parking, getting enough restroom facilities for the crowd, of course RO’s and SO’s, if your in a hot climate you’re going to need shade and water as well (at Texas state it took two just to keep the water jugs full of water and ice), catering (some are great others so so), some one will need to pick out an purchase the trophies, a minimum of two to compute scores (with associated computer soft/hardware) with many taking them score sheets, another will need to obtain the carbon copy score sheets, If you want a large prize table your going to have to have many at work knocking on doors to get a nice one. It only sounds like a lot of work because it is, and that’s just the bare minimum (at least to get participants to come back next year). FWIW a large prize table filled with guns increases the entry fee, and if your thinking about getting into competitive shooting as a money making sport, you’d be sadly mistaken.

[another okie]

There are lots of stage designs available on the web. Google "idpa stage designs" or "ipsc stage designs" or "uspsa stage designs." Here's one site: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass/stage.htm

You can also go to the GSSF web site and download the stage designs for the Glock shoots, which do not involve moving or reloading, and so are good for beginners.

Check the IDPA and IPSC web sites for clubs in your area and go to a match or two. If nothing else, you will learn how to run a match safely. Both of these organizations have lots of experience at that. Safety first!

[mscott]

http://www.stageexchange.com/index2.htm

[lmccrock]

From Brian Enos Forums: Stage Design (http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showforum=77)

How people do on USPSA Classifiers: USPSA Classifier Scores (http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showforum=25)

Lee

[Flexmoney]

woodstock,

Where are you located? Each general area will have a local representative that can help you with the process of starting a new club. I am the Ohio Section Coordinator for USPSA, for instance.

[robertbank]

We shoot IDPA up here and have a blast. Next summer we will have a Sanctioned Match and I will post details as they become known. Some of us are already working on the planning and we are nine months away from the shoot. For $75. you get a catered lunch and a Spring Salmon Bar BQ. Win your division and you will get a very nice 50 cent certificate saying you won your division. Prize tabel? We are working on it. Lots of stuff you likely alredy have two of and some you may not.

It isn't about the prize table it is about the guys you will meet and the fun of competing. Fishing while you are here. Well we have 80 lb Springs in the river and 10 minutes away from world class Steelhead fishing. but you are here to shoot and you will. The scenery isn't all bad either.

Take Care

Bob