What condition is your CCW in when you carry?


PDA






doorman
October 26, 2007, 01:34 PM
I am pretty sure that this issue as been addressed before. Since I am fairly new to this site and to handguns (less than a year) I thought I would throw the question out there.

I carry a Kahr P45 in condition 0. Round in the chamber (this gun is a DAO so no external safety). I just purchased a SA 1911A1 loaded that I carry in condition 1. Round in the chamber safety on.

What say you? :cool:

If you enjoyed reading about "What condition is your CCW in when you carry?" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!
Neophyte1
October 26, 2007, 01:40 PM
Revolver always loaded

jlpskydive
October 26, 2007, 02:06 PM
I just switched from a J frame to a XD40SC and it's in Condition 1 one ready to go. Grip it properly and the safeties are off, but I carry my 229 sometimes also and it feels safer at 0 (DA has to put pressure on something and then let it off to go bang, pretty much impossible on accident. You have to pull the trigger on this gun to make it fire. The XD and Glocks etc... can have a mechanical failure, however unlikely and go bang). The only safety you can rely on is, don't put your finger on the trigger

Pat Cannon
October 26, 2007, 02:15 PM
Like Neophyte1: revolver, all chambers loaded. Mine's a DAO (aka "hammerless") so there's no decisions to make about what 'mode' to shoot in. No slide or levers to manipulate = minimum mistakes available to make in my excitement.

GCW5
October 26, 2007, 02:31 PM
1911, condiion 1.

Geronimo45
October 26, 2007, 02:52 PM
With the somewhat rarely-carried 1911: Cocked, safetied, and loaded.
Revolver: All chambers loaded, hammer down.
Beretta 21: Full mag +1, hammer down, safety off.

The Bushmaster
October 26, 2007, 02:55 PM
Revolver...All chambers loaded, hammer down.
1911 style auto...Contition One

ZeSpectre
October 26, 2007, 03:01 PM
If I pull the trigger, it's gonna go bang. (I like DAO or DA/SA models)

Snarlingiron
October 26, 2007, 03:21 PM
Glock 19 or Glock 26, round in chanber.

TonyStarks
October 26, 2007, 03:37 PM
one in the pipe, cocked and locked...1911
the only way to go....

TonyB
October 26, 2007, 03:40 PM
revolver-loaded up
auto-doa-con 1
auto-SA-c and l'ed-con 1
auto-glock-con 1
anything else is silly IMO.......may as well not carry.

The-Fly
October 26, 2007, 04:15 PM
Glock 26, round chamber. The orginal point and click interface :)

Impax
October 26, 2007, 04:40 PM
cocked and locked SS loaded champion

Impax
October 26, 2007, 04:45 PM
Double post

TheotherMikeG
October 26, 2007, 05:45 PM
Condition 1, of couse!

Big Boomer
October 26, 2007, 06:11 PM
cocked and locked, ready to rock! :D

obxned
October 26, 2007, 06:12 PM
DA or DA/SA auto - ready to go with a simple pull on the trigger.

esol
October 26, 2007, 06:40 PM
im not too sure what condition it falls under, but i carry my xd40sc with a round in the chamber ready to fire
the safeties are technically "on" because i do not have my hand on the grip or trigger. so its not condition 0. but there is no manual safety that needs to be switched off before the gun is ready to fire. so its not really condition 1 either

so i guess i carry at condition 0.5???

RyanM
October 26, 2007, 06:46 PM
Excellent to like new condition. :P

Black Majik
October 26, 2007, 08:37 PM
DA/SA Chambered

blo0dyhatchet
October 26, 2007, 08:42 PM
DA with one in the chamber, decocked.

rantingredneck
October 26, 2007, 08:54 PM
DA/SA, full mag plus one in the chamber
DAO pocket guns full mag plust one in the chamber (no manual safety)

Ala Dan
October 26, 2007, 09:03 PM
Always a round under the hammer, ready to "Rock N' Roll"~! ;) :D

orionengnr
October 26, 2007, 09:14 PM
Kahr PM9 or P45-- chambered and ready to go (no external safeties installed). My most frequent CHL pistols.

1911-- Condition 1. Still trying to get used to carrying a (relatively) big, heavy 1911 (even though mine is an alloy 3"er :))

Revolver-- all chambers loaded. Seldom if ever carry a revolver anymore....

Bobo
October 26, 2007, 09:23 PM
Condition Red :D

Actually, mine is a semi-auto DA without a manual safety.

Carry one in the chamber and a fully load mag plus two spare mags.

Floppy_D
October 26, 2007, 09:26 PM
P229, condition 1. Is there another way to do it?

sm
October 26, 2007, 10:23 PM
It does not matter what platform, or caliber.

-Dirty from use, loaded, and ready to shoot some more.
-Front sight , Press, Bang.

Phydeaux642
October 26, 2007, 10:29 PM
Enclosed hammer j-frame revolver. All chambers loaded.

________________

"Phydeaux, bad dog....no biscuit!"

Prince Yamato
October 26, 2007, 11:09 PM
I can never remember what the "conditions" are. All my guns meant for defense are carried loaded.

Taurus 605 Revolver- loaded
Beretta 92- loaded, safety on

The Lone Haranguer
October 26, 2007, 11:43 PM
A gun that is not fully loaded and ready to go at a moment's notice is little more than a bludgeon or throwing object. ;) My carry gun, regardless of action type, is always fully loaded -- both magazine and chamber -- and stays that way unless I plan to clean or dry-fire practice with it.

mavracer
October 27, 2007, 12:12 AM
d/a revolvers are full,AMT backup, seecamp and HK p7psp are carried +1 all ready to grab n go.

-terry
October 27, 2007, 12:31 AM
Walther P99c (AS) loaded, round in chamber, decocked.

WVMountainBoy
October 27, 2007, 01:51 AM
I either carry a revolver with all tubes ready or striker fired autos ready to rock. Don't carry my 1911 that often these days, but always carried it one in and hammer lowered, never put much faith in lever style safties.

YZR
October 27, 2007, 10:34 AM
Kel-Tec P3AT: One in the pipe ready to go.

XD-40 Shooter
October 27, 2007, 10:41 AM
I carry a Taurus Mil-Pro 40, its DAO. I carry safety off with a round in the pipe.:D I'm not concerned about an AD because with this gun, it takes a long, deliberate trigger pull to fire it.

Shooters Plus
October 27, 2007, 11:25 AM
I always carry with a round in the chamber. With a good holster and some common sense everything will be fine.

Rexster
October 27, 2007, 04:43 PM
Unless SIG has introduced an SAO version of the P229, it is not mechanically possible to carry a P229 in Condition One. I do want an SAO P229! A decocker-equipped SIG is either Condition Zero or Condition Two; a DAK P229 would be Condition Two only. Condition One is hammer cocked, safety on, chamber loaded. Condition Two is hammer down, chamber loaded. Condition Three is chamber empty, with loaded magazine in place. Condition Zero is chamber loaded, and no manual safety applied, with the hammer at full-cock. Pistols that are semi-prepped for firing, with the striker partially cocked, muddy the water a bit, but I would say such pistols are not capable of Condition One or Zero, and are closest to being Two. (Kahr, Glock, and such) My duty pistol is a DAK P229, so as I indicated above, Condition Two. I don't think the Conditions of carry are directly applicable to revolvers, because the chamber under a lowered hammer is not the one that is first up to be fired, but my DA revolvers are fully loaded, and my SA sixguns have an empty chamber under the hammer, except for the Ruger, which is safe to carry fully loaded.

wrenchboy
October 27, 2007, 04:51 PM
beretta 92fs one in the chamber, safety on

joab
October 27, 2007, 04:56 PM
SA- cocked and Locked
SA/DA0 Hammer down on a chambered round (there is some evidence that having the safety on can prevent someone from using your own gun on you should they take it though)
DAO -same as a revolver hammer down on a loaded chamber

AZ_Rebel
October 27, 2007, 08:09 PM
1911 Condition 1

ironvic
October 27, 2007, 08:19 PM
S&W Snubbie 686-all cylinders stoked with .357 125s or SIG P-226 front pocket carry (after Summer's heat is gone), 1 in the breech and 15 in the magazine, hammer drop deployed and ready to go.

Autolycus
October 28, 2007, 02:36 AM
I would carry a DAO gun with a round chambered. Probably an HK P2000 or HK P2000sk with an LEM trigger.

possum
October 28, 2007, 02:24 PM
P229, condition 1. Is there another way to do it?
my houghts exactly Floppy!

i carry both of my guns ready to go one in the chamber, neither have manual safeties to worry about.

grimjaw
October 28, 2007, 02:46 PM
Carrying a Kahr or a Glock, round chambered either way.

jm

chipperi
October 28, 2007, 04:38 PM
S&W 4516 1 in the pipe safety off. I remember before getting my HCP seeing a picture of a cop laying on the ground dead with a S&W in his hand safety on. Apparently in the heat of the moment he forgot to flip it up.

Homeseller
October 28, 2007, 05:35 PM
1911 cocked & locked + BUG

DWARREN123
October 28, 2007, 06:04 PM
Semi's in condition II.

enfield
October 28, 2007, 07:13 PM
One up the spout and NO safeties (other than the trigger).

Adam5
October 28, 2007, 09:35 PM
Depends on what I'm carrying. My 1911 is cocked and locked. My Sig P226 is hammer down on a live chamber, Taurus Mill Pro is live chamber with the safety off.

Adam5
October 28, 2007, 09:38 PM
S&W Snubbie 686-all cylinders stoked with .357 125s or SIG P-226 front pocket carry (after Summer's heat is gone), 1 in the breech and 15 in the magazine, hammer drop deployed and ready to go.

Isn't a 226 a little big for front pocket carry? It seems that a holstered 226 would be a little big for that.

Adam5
October 28, 2007, 09:40 PM
S&W Snubbie 686-all cylinders stoked with .357 125s or SIG P-226 front pocket carry (after Summer's heat is gone), 1 in the breech and 15 in the magazine, hammer drop deployed and ready to go.

Isn't a 226 a little big for front pocket carry? It seems that a holstered 226 would be a little big for that.

Mat, not doormat
October 28, 2007, 09:50 PM
Cocked and locked for 1911, or CZ-75
Hammer down on empty chamber, other five loaded for SAA
Fully loaded for Ruger SA w/ transfer bar, or DA revolver.
round in chamber for DAO autos, like kahr, kel tec, etc.

~~~Mat

Gunner4h1r3
October 29, 2007, 07:42 AM
I carry my Colt 1991A1 Compact in condition 1. 7+1 doses of pure 230-grain lovin!

Gunner

jefnvk
October 29, 2007, 09:45 AM
1911: cocked & locked
PPK: round in chamber, hammer decocked, safety off (DA)

Hokkmike
October 29, 2007, 12:53 PM
Loaded magazine, chamber empty. My own safety and that of those I care for is paramont.

MustangHowie
October 29, 2007, 01:27 PM
Sig; Chambered and decocked.
Glock; Chambered and cocked.

I don't carry anything with a saftey, because I am not used to them. I am affraid I would forget to take it off safe.

P97
October 29, 2007, 01:39 PM
Ruger P90 or P97 fully loaded and decocked. Just pull the trigger and Bang!

mpmarty
October 29, 2007, 01:51 PM
PT145 SA/DA eleven rounds of 185gr Barnes solid copper, ten in mag one up pipe and safety on. I carried 1911s for so many decades the old thumb wipe is second nature during a draw.

CoRoMo
October 29, 2007, 05:18 PM
Revolver: Loaded, hammer forward, no safety to speak of.

SemiAuto: Full magazine, nothing in the chamber, dry-fired / uncocked (sleeping).

JesseL
October 30, 2007, 12:51 AM
My Daewoo DH40 is carried with one in the chamber, cocked, hammer down, safety off (probably very confusing for those unfamiliar with the Daewoo "Triple Action" mechanism).

RNB65
October 30, 2007, 12:52 AM
Locked and loaded.

evan price
October 30, 2007, 05:24 AM
Sigs: Round chambered, mag topped off, decocked.
Striker-fired types: Chambered, mag not topped off.
Revolvers: all holes filled.

I like to draw and squeeze. No safeties, nothing to worry about.

Autolycus
October 30, 2007, 12:49 PM
evan price: Why dont you top off striker fired weapons?

outofbattery
October 30, 2007, 06:11 PM
My old G19's in pretty shabby condition.There's no finish left on the slide,the frame has a bunch of nicks and gouges and as long as it isn't too grubby,I don't usually bother cleaning it before reholstering.
It always has a 124 gr Gold Dot chambered and ready to go though.

silverking
October 30, 2007, 07:30 PM
Drawpointbangcondition

Michael_2112
October 30, 2007, 07:47 PM
Revolver - DA fully loaded and ready to go.
1911 - Cocked and Locked (Condition 1)
Sig P228 - Round chambered, decocked and no external safety.

sinistr
October 31, 2007, 12:22 AM
whatever im carrying,it has no external hammers,no decockers,consistant trigger pull,one in the chamber....still so many to choose from.

40SW
October 31, 2007, 07:55 AM
90% of the time, I carry a DAO semi. Loaded and chambered always. BUG(backup gun) is always loaded and chambered as well.

mavracer
October 31, 2007, 10:10 AM
all my carry guns are in NRA good condition.
Ok I tried to let this thread go with a serious answer.

Papaster
October 31, 2007, 10:18 AM
Taurus PT145 (striker fired) with round in the chamber, manual safety off.

Hokkmike
October 31, 2007, 11:16 AM
Condition 3.

Safety always come first. The odds of an accident far outweigh the possibility of the necessity of actual use.

Harvster
November 1, 2007, 10:40 AM
S&W revolver....empty.....one round in my left shirt pocket.

BayAreaTactical
November 1, 2007, 10:43 AM
Always loaded. Why carry it if there is not one in the tube.

fletcher
November 1, 2007, 12:17 PM
1911 - Cocked and locked, round in chamber.
Other - Safety off (if present), round in chamber.

General Geoff
November 1, 2007, 12:21 PM
Safety always come first. The odds of an accident far outweigh the possibility of the necessity of actual use.
Why bother carrying a paperweight?


I carry my Walther with a round in the chamber, striker decocked so the first trigger pull is double action. All subsequent pulls are single action, and there is no external safety.

-terry
November 1, 2007, 01:43 PM
Harvster,

You are definately cruising for a ND carrying this way. Stephen A. Camp has said again and again that you carry the round IN YOUR RIGHT FRONT pocket. Less chance of it falling out, reduced printing, fast and easy to get to. You should also be using a pocket "round holster" so you don't get lint on your round. You only have one, you know.

-terry

arctictom
November 1, 2007, 06:30 PM
revolver and loaded .

stevereno1
November 5, 2007, 06:26 PM
Glock 27, chambered, winchester sxt 180 gr. in a fobus paddle holster under my un-tucked shirt

19-3Ben
November 5, 2007, 06:37 PM
DA Revolver. All chambers loaded.

P. Plainsman
November 5, 2007, 06:41 PM
Revolver - condition 2 or condition 0, depending on how you categorize a fully loaded DA revolver with hammer down.

I occasionally carry DA/SA autos; carry them condition 2.

Gunner4h1r3
November 5, 2007, 06:45 PM
Colt 1991A1 Compact .45- Condition 1, locked cocked ready to rock
RIA 1911A1 G.I. .45- Modified Condition 2, round in chamber, hammer at half
cock, safety off (haven't installed ambi safety yet).

budder
November 6, 2007, 10:46 AM
Condition 2? 1.5? I carry a P7, so I'm not quite sure how to classify it.

Seven For Sure
November 6, 2007, 11:12 AM
Kahr's, Glock's or S&W revolver's. All I need to do is pull the trigger and they go bang. Bang bang bang bang bang...

MrCleanOK
November 6, 2007, 12:02 PM
I carry one in the tube in my XD, mag usually not topped off. I don't like having a loose bullet floating around if I need to unload for some reason. No manual safeties.

bigmike45
November 6, 2007, 12:06 PM
If I carry it.....it is in Condition One!!!!

simpleguy
November 7, 2007, 11:55 PM
Pull trigger......BANG!

AZ_Rebel
November 8, 2007, 01:38 AM
Condition 3.

Safety always come first. The odds of an accident far outweigh the possibility of the necessity of actual use.

Safety, while important, is NOT first. Life is first. If Safety came first we would never again get into an automobile or step into a shower, since both of these acts have been proven to be inherently dangerous.

Since you carry a gun because you have recognized the fact that you MAY be in physical danger at some time in the future, it behooves you to have this gun ready and accessable. To not do so says you are not serious about your security and uncomfortable with your weapon. You can not select the time and place of the assault you may face. That decision will be made by someone else who, by definition, does not have your well being in mind. You can not select the amount of time available to:
1. Recognize the threat
2. Determine that action needs to be taken
3. Decide that lethal force may be required
4. Draw your weapon
5. Rack the slide and hope the round chambers
6. Assume a firing grip
7. Make a Shoot/No Shoot decision
8. Etc. etc.

By adding extra steps you may very well be wasting the exact time you need in order for you or someone else to survive.
Safety Rule #1 Says: "All Guns Are`Always Loaded". It's best not to mess with that.

jjohnson
November 8, 2007, 05:52 PM
I carry revolvers and autos.

I see absolutely no point in carrying an auto without one in the chamber... if you're not comfortable with it, maybe you should think twice about carrying.

In a Glock, round in the chamber. Other DA autos, round in chamber, hammer down. 1911 and the like, condition one, cocked and locked.
Revolvers, cylinder full.

skarpenz
November 8, 2007, 08:19 PM
DA/SA, rd in chamber, hammer up, no ext safety. Pull the trigger and it shoots.

Alan Fud
November 8, 2007, 08:49 PM
Loaded magazine, chamber empty. My own safety and that of those I care for is paramont.And why would having a round in the chamber change any of that as long as you keep your finger off the trigger until you've made the decision to shoot?

Zach S
November 8, 2007, 08:58 PM
Same condtion its in when its in the safe. Its a little beat up, has a few dings and scratches, obvious holster wear, ect. One look at it and you'll think "yep, definately a carry gun."

BTW, its a 1911, condition one.

Sylvan-Forge
November 11, 2007, 06:50 AM
Glocks - c2
Revolvers - c2
'11s - c0 or c1
Makarov - c0
Sig P23x, P229 or P220 - c0
HK P7 - c2
CZ SP01T - c0
HK P2oooSK LEM - c2

Super Trucker
November 11, 2007, 10:20 PM
Revolver fully loaded.

Evocatii
November 13, 2007, 09:03 PM
Locked, cocked, and ready to rock... its a revolver.

Balog
November 13, 2007, 09:23 PM
XD .45, Cond 1ish.

Hardtarget
November 13, 2007, 11:23 PM
I carry a .45 S&W...DAO. One round chambered and a full six round mag. I also carry a reload.

Mark.

Mr. Wilson
November 14, 2007, 12:26 AM
SIG 229 in 0 and Glock 18 in 0 (yes I said Glock 18):D

slzy
November 14, 2007, 12:53 PM
p7psp or model j, point and click

beretta92d
November 14, 2007, 02:18 PM
Beretta 92D Centurion,15rd mag maxed out with one in the pipe.

(for awhile there,i didn't think many folks carried(or liked)DAO)

as far as condition..not sure of the num,but it has some holster wear on front of trigger guard and dust cover.
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c34/beretta92d/wornspots.jpg
(you can see the wear marks here)

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c34/beretta92d/92dwithsandedgripscrews.jpg
(kinda bad pic)

i've been tossing around the idea of polishing or having barrel chromed..:confused:

KowBoY_NE
November 14, 2007, 06:40 PM
Cocked & Locked....:cool: mind in Condition Yellow ALWAYS!!:confused:

BlackHawk Serpa, or Shoulder at least one mag on Stand-By.

Nail Shooter
November 14, 2007, 07:56 PM
Quote:

Seven For Sure

Kahr's, Glock's or S&W revolver's. All I need to do is pull the trigger and they go bang. Bang bang bang bang bang...
________________________________________

Exact same guns, carried the same way. Makes it simple (no safeties) just a trigger to pull.

Nail

workingstiff
November 14, 2007, 08:06 PM
642 with 5 in that round thing above the trigger. Is that wrong? ;)

QUICK_DRAW_McGRAW
November 15, 2007, 12:08 PM
ok ive been around guns my whole life and i do have a CCW and carry every day, but what is condition 1,2,3? thanks for clearing it up.

Hi-Point C9 hollow points one in the whole, spare mag full of FMJ's

JesseL
November 15, 2007, 12:33 PM
ok ive been around guns my whole life and i do have a CCW and carry every day, but what is condition 1,2,3? thanks for clearing it up.

The Conditions of Readiness were defined by Jeff Cooper to apply to single-action, manual safety, semi-auto, pistols; such as the M1911 or Hi-Power.


Condition Zero: Loaded magazine in place, a round chambered, hammer cocked, safety off
Condition One: Loaded magazine in place, a round chambered, hammer cocked, safety on
Condition Two: Loaded magazine in place, a round chambered, hammer down
Condition Three: Loaded magazine in place, chamber empty
Condition Four: Chamber empty, no magazine


These conditions don't entirely apply to double action autos, autos without a manual safety, or revolvers.

Black Adder LXX
November 17, 2007, 10:13 PM
I carry an M&P compact, DAO with round chambered.

annielulu
November 18, 2007, 03:50 AM
Khar PM9 with one in pipe. No safeties to mess with. 124+ P Gold Dots.

If I'm not in the shower I'm wearing it. Feel undressed without it.

Crow1108
November 18, 2007, 07:24 PM
Sig P226 or 229.
12 in the mag, plus one in the chamber (180 grain Winchester SXTs). No safety to fool with. Hammer down.

benEzra
November 18, 2007, 09:13 PM
S&W 3913LS, Condition Two.

http://www.commongroundcommonsense.org/forums/uploads/1168567538/gallery_260_23_29637.jpg

bwavec
November 19, 2007, 03:25 AM
HK USP45 Compact (v1=SA/DA), round in the chamber, hammer down, safety on. I spend a considerable amount of time at the range practicing the firing sequence: take safety off while drawing, begin taking up trigger slack, weapon on target, fire DA first shot, fire SA follow up.

I practice, practice, practice so that it happens EVERY time. I do additional practice at home unloaded with snap caps as well so that the sequence is automatic.

The practice presenting your weapon from it carry condition (whatever that may be) and getting off that first shot is possibly your most critical personal defense skill. You have to do it without thinking, your reaction has to be automatic. They say it takes about 10,000 cycles from something to become an "unconcious habit".

schwazche
November 20, 2007, 12:14 AM
Kahr PM9 - DAO - Condition 2 -She's got a pretty long pull
Beretta Tomcat DA/SA - Condition 2 - Great conceal BUG. Not much in the firepower department though.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/schwazche/Carry.jpg
This way my finger IS the Safety.

If you enjoyed reading about "What condition is your CCW in when you carry?" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!