Worth of a restraining order


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Oleg Volk
October 26, 2007, 06:42 PM
http://olegvolk.net/gallery/d/22489-2/paper0209.jpg

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Jorg
October 26, 2007, 06:45 PM
Uh, do you have a version for those of us who aren't running in 4096x3076? ;)

Edited: Thanks much nicer. :) Feel free to delete this post.

Oleg Volk
October 26, 2007, 06:46 PM
Already corrected.

Thain
October 26, 2007, 06:48 PM
Good idea, good image, horrible grammar!

The ellipsis makes no sense, and its suppossed to go one the end of a word anyway... Delete it altogether and just "block justify" the question.

And the caption should read "The worth" or "the value" not just "Worth."

Blackbeard
October 26, 2007, 06:51 PM
It'd be better if you have her aiming the rolled-up paper like a gun at some shadowy figure out of focus.

Or trying to use it as a shield.

carpediem
October 26, 2007, 06:51 PM
The punchline is a little too wordy, IMHO. How about

Restraining orders are worthless if not enforced.

or

Restraining orders don't enforce themselves.

Oleg Volk
October 26, 2007, 06:54 PM
Better idea?


"Restraining orders don't stop stalkers.
Bullets do."

Use picture of a person holding a pistol.

JKimball
October 26, 2007, 07:01 PM
Excellent point.

I'm reading a book "The Gift of Fear" that was recommended here and the author makes the point that restraining orders rarely solve a problem and in fact they often are the catalyst to provoke an attack. Not saying a person shouldn't get one, but they should be prepared with more than a piece of paper when the attack comes.

sm
October 26, 2007, 07:06 PM
Good image, too wordy.

I would not use this for Stalking.
Instead to attract Ladies to shooting, and use humor and stereotype.

"Duh, I forgot new shoes to match my new holster"

--
For the armed lady and stalker, same model, no forehead slap.
Split photo, one on the ground dead with "Restraining Order" under body, other showing non forehead slap, photo of gun.

Top of Photo Caption: "Dealing With Stalkers"

Let the viewer see which one a lady would be better off with .

carpediem
October 26, 2007, 07:07 PM
It's less wordy, which is good. Still not quite spot-on, though. I like the concept.

A couple of ideas I got from the poster (they aren't really worded like punchlines, more observations):

Restraining order + pistol = prepared against stalker
Which one would you trust to stop a stalker
Restraining order backed up by being armed and prepared

Jorg
October 26, 2007, 07:13 PM
Perhaps you use that image with something like "Why didn't I think of that?" at the top, "I can defend myself without counting on someone else." Or something like that.

Mainsail
October 26, 2007, 07:15 PM
Change Worth to Value.

geekWithA.45
October 26, 2007, 07:30 PM
those of us who aren't running in 4096x3076?

Hmm...do such people really deserve Oleg Volk art? :neener:

strat81
October 26, 2007, 08:02 PM
The holster on the revolver looks chintzy. I'm sure it's functional, but I think such nice grips deserve finely crafted leather.

Titan6
October 26, 2007, 08:49 PM
Post 7 is a much better line.

I am not crazy about the overall idea though. It seems to play on a vulnerable women's fear. While I would almost never try to talk someone out of a firearm purchase... a first time purchase in response to a stalker is one I find troubling. The purchaser needs a lot of guidance. Unfortunatly they don't often seek such...

Anyway I am not saying it is bad... I am just not crazy about it.

Bazooka Joe71
October 26, 2007, 08:52 PM
Better idea?


"Restraining orders don't stop stalkers.
Bullets do."

Use picture of a person holding a pistol.


I like this one better.

Stump Water
October 26, 2007, 09:12 PM
There's a disconnect.

"Stop a stalker w/ paper". Ok we all know that's worthless.

But a court ordered restraining order is completely disconnected from 'her' protecting 'herself' from a stalker. The restraining order isn't measured, at all, by 'her' training but, instead, by the ability of the police to enforce it.

scout26
October 26, 2007, 10:44 PM
"Stop a Stalker with a restraining Order ???

Not worth the paper it's written on."

With a knife/fake blood on the RO.

Gord
October 26, 2007, 10:59 PM
Yeah, I'd go with something incorporating "not worth the paper it's written on." The "bullets do" thing seems a bit... blunt, and isn't the point to sway fence-sitters?

pax
October 26, 2007, 11:13 PM
Top half is fine as-is.

What I'd put on the bottom half: "Not without a back-up plan!"

pax

romma
October 29, 2007, 02:30 PM
"Because Paper Cuts From Restraining Orders Don't Stop Stalkers"...

jeepmor
October 29, 2007, 02:44 PM
"A restraining order doesn't stop a stalker hellbent on violence, it only documents it. Be prepared to back it up with more than paper."

OR

"Documentation won't stop a violent attack, it may provoke it. Be prepared"

OR

"Restraining orders don't stop attackers."

RPCVYemen
October 29, 2007, 03:10 PM
Actually, I had some real life experience with this.

Without going into details, a lady of my acquaintance called a "women's help line" after a particular situation.

The counselor suggested a restraining order.

The lady wasn't really sure that it was such a good idea. She talked to me, and I suggested that she call the help line back, and express her concerns.

She did call back the help line, and got a wiser, order counselor. The counselor said that my lady friend could get a restraining order.

My friend, "What's your experience with these? Will it do any good?"

The counselor paused, "Is he [the guy against whom the order would be issued] a pillar of the community kind of a guy?"

My friend said, "No."

The counselor said, "You have an absolute right to see an R.O. in this case. Honestly - they almost never do any good. If the guy is a pillar of the community, he may be embarrassed. But most of the time they are no good at all."

The guy in this case was pretty far from "pillar of the community" status, so my friend did not get the restraining order.

Mike

geekWithA.45
October 29, 2007, 03:18 PM
Hmmm.....picture of a woman waving an ornate document at an attacker, caption "Get back! Or I will whack you on the snout with my restraining order!"

Major caption: "Whacking on the snout with rolled up paper doesn't even work that well on dogs, either."

;)

armoredman
October 29, 2007, 03:28 PM
May I?

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/restrainingorder.jpg


I gotta get SOME good use out of that picture... Sorry for butting in, Oleg.

Oleg Volk
October 29, 2007, 03:32 PM
Awesome poster, armoredman! The only thing I'd change is the typeface, for readability.

ZeSpectre
October 29, 2007, 03:35 PM
I envision a pair of hands reaching for her throat, her holding a restraining order in one hand and a sidearm in the other

Caption pointing to restraining order..."Worth the paper it's written on".
Caption pointing to the firearm... "Worth it's weight in gold"

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