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phantomak47 October 26, 2007, 06:45 PM With the possibility of diplomatic changes in American and Russian foreign policy, what impact can this have on the importation of new firearms and surplus/ C&R firearms? Is there a chance that the importation of these firearms could be banned?
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finnerandr October 26, 2007, 06:55 PM Surplus firearms from Russia are already banned from my understanding. All the Mosins and whatnot are coming from other countries that had stockpiles of Russian weapons, not from Russia itself.
denfoote October 26, 2007, 11:41 PM Not just surplus, but all firearms are banned from importation.
LawBot5000 October 26, 2007, 11:47 PM No, there is a restriction on "non-sporting" firearms in the 1968 GCA. The ban has changed a lot over the years but the basic answer is that any firearm that is being imported that threatens to gore a domestic manufacturer's ox is going to get banned. Norinco used to import M14 clones for well under 500 bucks and they had a wide range of sporting type shotguns and 1911 clones that were insanely cheap.
Car Knocker October 27, 2007, 12:07 AM Not just surplus, but all firearms are banned from importation.
Nope. Saiga sporting rifles and shotguns are currently being imported. Baikal sporting firearms are currently being imported.
phantomak47 October 27, 2007, 12:07 AM So how do surplus firearms come to the U.S. (c&Rs)?
Tommygunn October 27, 2007, 12:07 AM Surplus firearms from Russia are already banned from my understanding. All the Mosins and whatnot are coming from other countries that had stockpiles of Russian weapons, not from Russia itself.
Hmm. When were they banned? About 7 years ago I bought an Russian 1895 Nagant revolver. Yea I know it fires a whoosie cartridge but it's an interesting, historical gun and a fun plinker.
I believe they're still available .....
TimboKhan October 27, 2007, 12:55 AM I am no expert in this particular field, but sporters and mil-surp rifles fall under two different categories, hence the reason that a Saiga is legal. I am also under the impression that Clinton was the motivating force behind banning all firearms imports from Russia. In any event, one of the previous posters hit the nail on the head: The majority of the Russian mil-surps available today were imported from countries other than Russia.
GD October 27, 2007, 11:01 AM Most of the M44, M91/30 and M38 refurbished mosins you see for sale have come from the Ukraine. Surplus from Russia has been banned. New, sporting rifles and shotguns can be imported from Russian.
esmith October 27, 2007, 01:33 PM Is this just surplus weaponry and ammo? Russia pumps out ammo everyday that ends up here. Wolf, Brown Bear, etc. Is this stuff bought by other countries then sent over here as well?
Jeff F October 27, 2007, 02:54 PM I believe Wolf ammo is made in Serbia witch I believe is not a part of Russia anymore.
Shear_stress October 27, 2007, 03:02 PM I believe Wolf ammo is made in Serbia witch I believe is not a part of Russia anymore.
Steel-cased Wolf is made in Russia. Says so right on the box. I believe you're thinking of Wolf Gold, which is brass cased.
Car Knocker October 27, 2007, 03:17 PM Serbia was part of Yugoslavia, not Russia or the Soviet Union.
arcticap October 28, 2007, 02:04 AM Surplus firearms from Russia are already banned from my understanding. All the Mosins and whatnot are coming from other countries that had stockpiles of Russian weapons, not from Russia itself.
Importing Russian firearms has been heavily limited since the voluntary import export control signed by the Russians and Bill Clinton in the 90's.
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/arms02.htm
Apparently, there has been ammendments made in 2004.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=79261
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