Guns you wish they'd bring back?


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Nightcrawler
July 15, 2003, 02:04 AM
I like to ask this from time to time.

Which discontinued firearms do you wish manufacturers would bring back into production? Would you prefer the weapon modernized in any way if it's an old design? For me, I'd leave most classic designs as-is, with the exception of better lockup/metallurgy so they can handle modern loads (even +P) without risking damage or excessive wear.

Here are some of the guns I wish they'd return to production:

Winchester/USRAC: Bring back the 1892! None of this limited production stuff; return it to full production and discontinue the pistol-caliber 94s. And stop putting the spring-loaded takeup in the triggers of your trappers! Also, bring back the 1895 in .30-06 (they do make 'em in .270, but not .30-06, apparently).

Smith & Wesson: Get rid of the internal locks, for one. For two, how about some blued guns? It seems every single thing they make is stainless, now. Then, bring back the 1917, the Model 57 (4" and 6"), and the Model 25 in .45 Colt (4" and 6").

Colt: Anacondas in .45 Colt (4" and 6") would be nice, as would some of their more rack-grade revolvers. The Python and Anaconda are really kind of high-end models. Something in .41 Mag would be nice.

That's all I can think of for now.

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Ian
July 15, 2003, 02:06 AM
A new-production Shansei Broomhandle Mauser in .45 ACP (or how about .400 Corbon?) would be pretty neat.

4v50 Gary
July 15, 2003, 02:08 AM
I'll second Ian's nomination. Detachable magazine though and a shoulder stock holster too. :)

six 4 sure
July 15, 2003, 02:21 AM
Being a lever-gun fan I second the vote for a regular run of 1892's from Winchester. I'd also like to see the 38-55 in the 1894 again. I know this is really wishing, but I'd like to see the 1886 in a non limited edition also in something other than 45-70. But that's just me and I could be wrong.

six

Colt46
July 15, 2003, 02:30 AM
The Mannlicher Schoenauer 1903(or even the later evolutionary designs), Colt New Frontier(seems to be the perfect answer to the Colt SAA vs. Ruger Blackhawk debate), Radom VIS, S&W New Century, Webley Mk VI and Boyes ATR.

Triad
July 15, 2003, 02:37 AM
HK P9S-I'd like to see it with a P7 mag release, and a frame mounted safety. I'd like to see it built with two different frames, one for the 9mm/.40/.357 sig and another for the 10mm/.45.

HK MP5/10- It would be nice to see a version of this for the .45. Need something to go with the P9 after all.

Luger-I'd like it offered with an optional SIG P210 style safety. I'd also like to see a 10mm/.45 version.

I can probably think of more later.

Orthonym
July 15, 2003, 02:44 AM
I want a BAR just like the one Bonnie Parker had!:D

Schuey2002
July 15, 2003, 03:57 AM
H&K 90 series rifles, Steyr Augs, Sig 550/552's, Colt CAR-15's, Valmet 78's, Daewoo AR100's, Galil's, Spas 12's, FNC Para's and all other weapons banned from importation by Gee-Dub Sr. ..


:fire: :cuss: :fire:

Pendragon
July 15, 2003, 04:03 AM
I likes the Star Firestar.

Maybe with an alloy frame. It was a 1911 style gun with a face lift.

firestar
July 15, 2003, 05:29 AM
I too like the Star Firestar but I would also like to see the Colt Woodsman and the Luger brought back into production.

El Tejon
July 15, 2003, 08:47 AM
Colt Stagecoach.:)

foghornl
July 15, 2003, 08:51 AM
Like firestar, I wonder how Goerg Luger's "Pistole Parabellum '08" would sell and perform (and at what price) given modern metals & methods.

I fired a Colt Woodsman once, thought it shot well. Would also like to see what Colt would do on a remake of the Trooper line.

Would like to see Ruger bring back the Security/Service/Speed Six line, although it is hard to argue the popularity of the GP-100 series.

Had a Rem Nylon 66 as my first .22LR autoloader, shooting buddy had the detachable box mag version (Nylon 77 ?). Decent shooters at a reasonable price. Many a squirrel & rabbit filled the pot courtesy of my Nylon 66.

H Romberg
July 15, 2003, 09:28 AM
Luger in .45 ACP (only made a prototype for the US ARMY sidearm competition)

Savage needs to make another decent .22/.410 combo with wood furniture, not just the survival model.

Little break-open concealable revolvers like Iver Johnson used to make, but good quality and shooting hotter rounds.

Deadman
July 15, 2003, 09:50 AM
Timberwolf pump action rifle in .357magnum.

hammer4nc
July 15, 2003, 10:00 AM
If the hi-cap ban goes away, I'd like to see the helical magazine concept of the Calico 950 resurrected (hopefully by other manufacturers, ). Fifty and 100 round magazines in a very small package. Good idea if it could be made reliable.

Zeke Menuar
July 15, 2003, 10:02 AM
Savage 99 in .300 Savage and/or 358 Winchester

1903 Colt Pocket Model pistol

ZM

Jack19
July 15, 2003, 10:14 AM
H&K 90 series rifles, Steyr Augs, Sig 550/552's, Colt CAR-15's, Valmet 78's, Daewoo AR100's, Galil's, Spas 12's, FNC Para's and all other weapons banned from importation by Gee-Dub Sr. ..

Amen to that.

dsgrntldPW
July 15, 2003, 10:17 AM
Colt Diamondback. Retain the super smooth action and update for +P and you would have one sweet carry gun.

carp killer
July 15, 2003, 10:48 AM
Second the Savage 22/410 break action. JUST like the first model. Walnut stock and the side button selector. And the Savage 219 rifle and 220 shotgun. As soon as these are for sale somewhere, they sell. I would suggest to the gun makers to do a better job of marketing what buyers want. They should look at what sells on the web, at auctions and at gunshows. Not what some glossy gun mag writer likes at the moment. I haven't bought a new gun for a couple of years. I don't like stainless steel, plastic stocks and all that damn safety writing on the barrels.

cracked butt
July 15, 2003, 11:09 AM
I'd like Rem to ditch their 710 turd and bring back the 788.

Dave T
July 15, 2003, 11:11 AM
2nd Generation Colt Single Action Armys.

Three screw Ruger Blackhawks.

Blue steel S&W DA revolvers. And, while we're wishing how about loosing the stupid lock.

First series of Kimbers (no Swartz safety).

Pre-ban AR-15s. Pre ban most anything to be honest.

Guess I'm not impressed with any of the factory's "new and improved' models.

Dial911inVegas
July 15, 2003, 11:11 AM
Colt Mustang, Pocketlite, Mustang PLUS II, Government 380, and the Colt Model 1903/1908.

Ala Dan
July 15, 2003, 12:16 PM
Smith & Wesson model 39 and 39-2

Colt Match Target Woodsman

Smith & Wesson 4" barrel model 18

Colt Diamondback in .22LR and .38 Special

Smith & Wesson 2" barrel RB model 34

.45 caliber Colt Combat Elite

4" Smith & Wesson model 57 and 657

Remington XP-100 in .221 Remington Fireball

Ruger .30 caliber Carbine SA

2" barrel Colt Agent

Smith & Wesson model 41

and I almost forgot,

Smith & Wesson model 19 in 2.5-4-6" barrels

That is the ones I can think of right off the bat; but I'm
sure there are a lot more, like the Smith & Wesson
models 23 and 24!:D :) :rolleyes:


Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

Joe Demko
July 15, 2003, 12:28 PM
Colt Woodsman
Whitney Wolverine
Claridge Hi-Tech
Ithaca Auto-Burglar

Skunkabilly
July 15, 2003, 12:34 PM
all other weapons banned from importation by Gee-Dub Sr. ..

That's Gee-Aich-Dub...(George Herbert Walker) :p

Beretta 92G Centurion. And dovetail that @#$@# front sight already!!

Meowhead
July 15, 2003, 01:06 PM
That one Ruger semiautomatic carbine in .44 Mag. I think it was called the Deerstalker...of course, to really make it cool someone would have to make magazines that can hold more than three rounds.

Mike Irwin
July 15, 2003, 01:08 PM
The Savage 99.

The Winchester Model 71.

Doug444
July 15, 2003, 01:10 PM
Winchester Model 88 Lever Action, only chambered in the new Win. Short Magnum series of cartridges.

Doug444

SC_shooter
July 15, 2003, 01:32 PM
Colt commander XSE in 10mm
Colt Delta Elite (Blue and stainless - series 70)
Colt CCO in 10mm
Blue S&W revolvers without the stinkin' lock
Navy Arms model (18)66 lever action .22/.22 mag

Ed Straker
July 15, 2003, 01:37 PM
Ruger Security-Six.

Marlin Camp Carbine (.45ACP).

Schuey2002
July 15, 2003, 01:39 PM
Ummmm, yeah..
That's Gee-Aich-Dub...(George Herbert Walker)
Ya'll know who I'm talking about... ;)

Dr.Rob
July 15, 2003, 02:04 PM
Colt 1903 in Stainless

Mauser C-96.

And wouldn't you all like to see an American made double rifle? Now there is a project for Ruger.

Pedersoli, US Firearms and AWA are all making lightning rifles but no one is making them in 44 magnum. All three companies reverse engineered the rifle and beefed up the action (The large frame handed 45-60-300-I'd bet it could handle 44 mag pressures)


Speaking of Lightnings. I'd like a DA Lightning and Thunderer. One in .38/357, one in .45. Oh and an 1878 Frontier six shooter. you'd think one of those Itailan companies would make one.

Not ALL cowboy guns were SA's.

Brian Williams
July 15, 2003, 02:22 PM
S&W mod 22 45colt fixed sights 4" or 5" skinny barrel
S&W mod 13
S&W M&P

J Miller
July 15, 2003, 04:26 PM
Win 94's WITHOUT the rebounding hammer, afterthought safteys, and angle eject, IN in all the original calibers as well as .45 Colt, .454 Casull, and some of the other larger calibers.

Win 1886 WITHOUT the rebounding hammer, and safetys, in 50-110, and some of the other calibers other than 45-70.

Win 1892's WITHOUT the rebounding hammer and safety, in all the original calibers as well as .45 Colt and .454 Casull.

Old Model Ruger 3 Screw Black Hawks WITHOUT conversion.

Blued S&W N Frames in .45 Colt without locks and MIM parts.

Colt Government Models as they were originally made, with only larger sights as an upgrade.

Majic
July 15, 2003, 04:43 PM
Colt's Officers Model Match and the Shooting Master.

willyjixx
July 15, 2003, 05:10 PM
tec 9s in FA

man they look fun!

BARs for civilian use!

Calicos!!!!!!

an the M-79 thumpgun

Leaky Waders
July 15, 2003, 06:44 PM
Another vote for the Savage 99!! I'd buy it for sure.

v/r
LW

PS I have a winchester model 95 in .3006 - I bought mine new, but ones nib can still be found on gunsamerica.com and I'm sure lots of other places too.

BlkHawk73
July 15, 2003, 07:15 PM
Ruger .30 caliber Carbine SA

This is still produced by Ruger according to the 2003 catalog

Smith & Wesson model 41

This is still listed on the S&W website in both 5 1/2" and 7" models
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I'd like to see the Whitney Wolverine back in production as well as the Thompson Center TCR single-shot rifles.

Jeff Timm
July 15, 2003, 08:45 PM
Beretta Model 70S. .22LR with interchangable barrels.

Geoff
Who almost bought a 70S.. sigh.

Sean Smith
July 15, 2003, 09:26 PM
Pre-Series 70 Colt Government Model and Gold Cup National Match.

Safety First
July 15, 2003, 09:41 PM
Colt .380 Pocketlite, with the demand for CCW today, I really don't understand why Colt is not producing it, I think they quit manufacturing it between 1997-1999. The stainless model would be my choice at around 12 oz, it would make a terrific pocket gun...

MeekandMild
July 15, 2003, 11:16 PM
How about a W&M 5.5 Velo Dog revolver or perhaps an Askins .221 Woodsman?

Standing Wolf
July 15, 2003, 11:18 PM
The High Standard Military line of pistols. The trademarks and patents are now owned by an individual in Texas, but the pistols, from everything I've read, aren't the same at all.

I'd like to see the Whitney Wolverine back in production...

It was actually never much of a shooter, but what a looker!

Butch
July 15, 2003, 11:26 PM
Not a bring back but sure would like to see a Ruger #1 in 22lr.

geekWithA.45
July 15, 2003, 11:30 PM
I remember seeing the Marlin Camp Carbine (.45acp) on the federal exemption list, and I know it's out of production.

Since any firearm named on the list can never be removed from the list, how many others have gone bye bye since then?

Kentucky Rifle
July 16, 2003, 10:55 AM
All the Colt Mustang models.

KR

Strings
July 16, 2003, 06:42 PM
no mention of Winchester bringing back the '87? Sheesh... I'd LOVE to have a new one, with choke tubes...

Fair 'n Square
July 16, 2003, 06:56 PM
I had a Colt Diamondback once. It was stolen. Wish I could get another one for my wife. It was perfect for her. Not heavy, not large, adjustable sights, 4-inch bbl., and a REVOLVER! She really has a problem racking the slide on a semi-auto.

mephisto
July 16, 2003, 08:16 PM
Steyr GB in .40, 10 mm, .45 acp.

Orbital-Burn
July 16, 2003, 08:37 PM
trebuchets!!!!!!

I want one big enough to launch 10 50gal barrels of napalm at the JBT's

CWL
July 16, 2003, 08:56 PM
Artillery luger complete with snaildrum mag and buttstock holster.

http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/0900/999.htm


-or I'll settle for a P7M7.

telomerase
July 16, 2003, 09:13 PM
Ring airfoil 40mm launcher, Gyrojet with guided projectiles, and the Davy Crockett.


What?

Dorian
July 16, 2003, 09:19 PM
H&K 90 series rifles, Steyr Augs, Sig 550/552's, Colt CAR-15's, Valmet 78's, Daewoo AR100's, Galil's, Spas 12's, FNC Para's and all other weapons banned from importation by Gee-Dub Sr. ..

A second amen to that!

Along with the above. The HK USP Match.

Arts
July 16, 2003, 10:05 PM
Colt Mustang .380

Bob
July 16, 2003, 10:19 PM
I'd like to see Winchester bring back the model '95 in 30-40 and the '92 in a full line of modern pistol calibers, and finally the '86 in 45-70.

10-Ring
July 16, 2003, 10:23 PM
HK long guns in CA! Heck, the entire HK line up into CA!

Wayne D
July 16, 2003, 11:22 PM
Smith & Wesson revolvers with the firing pin where it's supposed to be and no locks!:fire:

Quintin Likely
July 17, 2003, 12:15 AM
Colt Delta Elites. Got a close look at a co-worker's Delta Elite that he practically stole off someone through the local newspaper classifieds (paid like $600, IIRC)

I want one. I want one soooooooo bad.

jimbo
July 17, 2003, 02:29 AM
1928 Thompson M1 semi-automatic with the CORRECT barrel length. None of this 16-inch barrel crap!

Keith
July 17, 2003, 08:03 PM
Ditto on the Colt Mustang and all of its variants!

However... I'd like to see them made by Springfield or Kimber, with a steel guide rod and some upgraded engineering that allows you to reassemble them without breaking into tears or going insane!

I'd also like to see something like the 1903/08 Colt in 9mm with a locked breech. That slender profile would be IT for concealed carry!

Keith

Rembrandt
July 17, 2003, 09:08 PM
I'll second jimbo's choice of a 1928 Thompson M1 semi-automatic with the CORRECT barrel length......only Auto Ordinance's original .22 caliber semi-auto version, very rare with 30 round stick magazine.

Have to agree with CWL, Artillery luger complete with snaildrum mag and buttstock holster.
http://www.securityarms.com/2001031...es/0900/999.htm

another48hrs
July 17, 2003, 09:12 PM
HK P9S in 45acp and a new factory Walther P38.

mothernatureson
July 17, 2003, 10:25 PM
Thompson Center Patriot. A good looking black powder target pistol. Used ones are going for big dollars. should have bought one twenty years ago when I started shooting muzzle loaders. peace
mothernatureson

MarineTech
July 18, 2003, 11:32 AM
I'd like to see Winchester bring back the Model 52C .22 Target rifle in its original form. One of the finest .22 Target rifles ever produced in the US.

243_shooter
July 18, 2003, 12:58 PM
Winchester Model 88.. Then I could give old faithfull a well deserved rest ;)

Leo

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