October 29, 2007, 05:41 PM
Sorry if this is redundant to other threads out here. I would call my self a relative neophyte to handguns. Though I have shot a variety of mostly 9mm in the last 25 years, they were friends guns. The plinker I own is Ruger Mark II.

My question is I am looking for a new gun (can be used). I have handled recently the Bersa 9mm, and Mak and have heard many nice things about CZ while on line. Of course there are many others. Based on this short list, you can see I am a bit price sensitive, but certainly want to buy quality.

I am looking at .380 to 9x19. Any recommendations/suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

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October 29, 2007, 06:08 PM
What price range do you want to stick to?

October 29, 2007, 06:30 PM
CZ 75. Excellent quality for the price.

Mad Magyar
October 29, 2007, 06:34 PM
You have plenty of choices in the two calibers you mentioned....Look at your budget and start to handle some for grip/feel at gun shops, pawn shops, or gun shows...
Good luck....
P.S. Welcome to the Forum...:)

Blue .45
October 29, 2007, 06:52 PM
I just bought a CZ75B, I haven't taken it to the range yet, so I can't comment first hand on accuracy and reliability. Although, I can say the gun feels great in my hand and after some dry firing, the trigger isn't as heavy as I've read in some other threads regarding the CZ. I can however, tell you that my Ruger P89 has countless rounds through it and has never failed me. I've also heard good things about the Ruger P95 and though I don't have any personal experience with it, I do own it's big brother, the P97 in .45acp. This gun has also performed flawlessly. There are all kinds of bargains on 9mms. Especially, if you consider the used market.

October 29, 2007, 07:08 PM
Whatever you decide to buy stay with the 9mm. It will be less expensive than the 380 in terms of ammo price. also keep an eye open for used or police trade in's. AIM has trade in SIG 225's for about $350. Also keep an eye out for used Glocks and berettas

October 29, 2007, 07:09 PM
Tough choice as there are many guns available new or used at that price.

How about a used or police trade in Glock 17 or 19?

Sig P226.


Ruger P95.

October 29, 2007, 07:17 PM
I like Glocks, and they make great 9mm at reasonable prices. But there are many good 9mm out there. A local gun shop is selling brand new S&W Sigma's for $299. The triggers are terrible but its tough to beat at that price.

October 29, 2007, 10:57 PM
CZ is a good place to start. I would stay with 9mm.

October 29, 2007, 11:02 PM
Based on the fact that you are considering CZ, I would guess that you're in the >$400 market. For new guns, the CZ is impossible to beat without doubling the price. You can get the Tanfoglio (EAA) Wtness (CZ clone) for a little less than the CZ; still a great gun (I own 2 in 10mm, though the Limited model is wayyyyyy outside the $400 range). There is also an incredible used market for sub-$400 9mm's including such fine pieces as the S&W 5906.

October 29, 2007, 11:17 PM
I am looking at .380 to 9x19. Any recommendations/suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Staying within the stated question. Take a look at the CZ82 in 9x18 mak. I recently picked one up $242.00 OTD. You get two 12+1 mags, cleaning rod and holster. Holster is nothing to look at but good for storage. The one I got is either new or carried and never fired but the finish even the edges is intact. SA/DA, Ambi safety and mag release, easy take down(similiar to PPK) I did have to polish the feed ramp and remove a small lip before the gun would feed hollow points, this was done with a dremel fine grinding wheel and felt polishing tip with jewelers rouge. Supposedly, you can get this gun also in 380 acp but the 9x18 is a potent round for a blow back pistol. Accurate too at up to 25 yds.

October 29, 2007, 11:45 PM
The CZ-82 is available a lot of places at around $200. These are Czech military and police surplus, usually come with a holster & 2 mags, and are in good to mediocre cosmetic condition and excellent mechanical condition. They are 9x18 (Makarov) which is a bit more powerful than 380 but not up to 9mm Luger levels.

The two I've bought have a lot of finish blemishes (they have a sort of baked on paint finish on the frame and slide, with other parts blued) but are wonderful shooters. And tack drivers to boot. I hit 12 inch square steel plates at 50 YARDS pretty routinely (I'm actually better with the Makarov.) With 12+1 capacity I even carry mine, as they fit the same FIST IWB holster as the Makarov. I can also use the Fobus paddle holster (also for the Mak) to practice draw-from-concealment scenarios at my range if I don't want to use the FIST.

October 29, 2007, 11:51 PM
Shop around for a good, used Glock 19!

Everybody Needs A G19! :D


. Resale Value--G19 Is Most Popular USA Glock!
. Accuracy--Great "Little" Shooter!
. Capacity--Sixteen On Tap!
. Legendary Reliability!
. Parts Surplus!
. Better Accessories Are Available For It!

As Shown, Judy's 2005 G19 is Equipped With:

. Trijicon Night Sights
. LaserMax Internal Laser Designator
. SureFire X200B
. OEM 33-Round Magazine

The platform and accessories have been 100%. The gun has over 6500-rounds throught it, YTD.

Judy loads Double Tap 115 gr +p Gold Dots for SD/HD.


October 30, 2007, 12:25 AM
Sorry about that, I misread the initial posting.

Yes, the advertised price from the wholsaler is $209.00 but then you have to figure in shipping, commission and tax. Mine OTD $242.00. I'm sure you can get them cheaper if a dealer is a friend, you don't have to pay tax.

Blue .45
October 30, 2007, 01:25 AM
I do believe the question asked pertains to either 380 or 9x18.

I am looking at .380 to 9x19. Any recommendations/suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

October 30, 2007, 01:31 AM
Edit error...

G19 does meet the criterion, as stated.

You can occasionally find these cheap, at gun shows--it depends on what the dealer is "heavy" on!


October 30, 2007, 05:22 AM
Affordable choices would include the following:

Used Glock 17 or 19
FM Argentine P-35 High Power or the Charles Daly P-35 High Power
Sarco Inc Detective model Browning High Power
Smith & Wesson 6904 6906 469
Walther P 1 (aluminum frame post war P-38)
Firestar 9mm
Sig 226 factory reconditioned as advertised in Shotgun News
Springfield XD standard or compact new or used


Good deals turn up if you are willing to wait look and shop around.

Best of luck.

October 30, 2007, 02:58 PM
I really appreciate all the fine input in such short time. I am heading to the range this weekend to shoot a few. At the moment I'd like to stay under $300 if I can.

Thanks to all.

October 30, 2007, 03:23 PM
Used Sig.

October 31, 2007, 10:31 AM
oppy said:
At the moment I'd like to stay under $300 if I can.

vito corleone said:
Used Sig

and where can you find a used sig for less than $300? i wish i knew i would buy several of em.

October 31, 2007, 11:11 AM
I am also orginally from the great NW! Welcome. I have a .380 Bersa Thunder and it is a great little pistol. It looks nice, feels good in the palm, and utterly reliable. The big bonus is that the price is right! You can buy a used one for around $200.

There are a lot of used SIG 226's and 225's (P-6) out there. They run from $350 ish to 600. They are, of course, 9mm's.

October 31, 2007, 05:21 PM
Stick with 9mm - it's the cheapest to shoot centerfire I know of. Get the Tanfoglio/EAA Winess. It is the best CZ type for the money!

November 5, 2007, 10:40 PM
I decided on the CZ-82. Looking forward to taking it to the range this weekend. I ran across a comment somewhere that for this and the Mak to stay with about 95gr ammo. Is this correct? All I have locally is 115gr.

November 15, 2007, 06:11 PM
I would like to provide input on the CZ82. I ordered mine from AIM and received it this weekend. I opted for handpick for an extra $10, bringing the price to $219. It arrive looking like a brand new gun.
Very close inspections revealed no scratches or wear marks - really. I am very pleased. I took it to the range and found it to be a very good shooter. It feels very nice in my hand and the kick is very mild. I had 1 jam in each of the first two clips and none after. I am told I should have probably oiled her up before shooting for the first time. My bad.

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