Right handed with IWB LH behind back?


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klover
October 31, 2007, 12:27 AM
What is wrong with this carry for a full sized back up ? I know it might hurt on a backwards fall, but are there other cons?

I'm trying to avoid the Urban Safari rig when carrying two pistols.

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Polishrifleman
October 31, 2007, 12:50 AM
This is how I normally carry (not a full size though). I can't remember falling completely backwards on it ever and I have fallen numerous times. Usually you land on your butt or more to the side planting a hand. It isn't natural and very difficult to land FLAT on your back Nestea plunge style.

sleeperj21
October 31, 2007, 01:01 AM
I have a Don Hume holster that sits sideways on the back of my belt. My gun isn't full size its a compact 4inch barrel.

12Bravo20
October 31, 2007, 01:22 AM
I use a left hand IWB in the small of the back when I carry my Firestar. It works fine for me. I also carry my Llama .380 the same way.

xpun8
October 31, 2007, 02:05 AM
I have an off topic question that kind of fits in here-
If you draw right handed and carry in the SOB should your holster be left or right handed? I've tried both, I don't carry there, but was curious. With the left handed with a serious to the right cant you draw, but you have the length of the barrel deeper IWB. With a right handed canted to the right (this way makes sense to me) it seems kind of awkward to me.
The OP mentions that this is a BUG, does that change the way you'd carry in the SOB? Thanks.

AZ_Rebel
October 31, 2007, 02:43 AM
Right handed with IWB LH behind back?

I assume that you would draw it "Cavalry Style" by twisting it around to a firing position... doing so can point the gun at various parts of your body... perhaps not the best idea?

klover
November 2, 2007, 02:04 PM
DA pull, so I don't fret where the muzzle points until the target is sighted.

Mat, not doormat
November 2, 2007, 02:29 PM
First round is a heavier DA pull, so I don't fret where the muzzle points until the target is sighted.


I see a slight problem with that logic. I'm not going to recommend pointing a gun at your own innards, but if you want to, feel free. Stupidity tends to punish itself, eventually. But if you're not fretting about where it's pointing, and it gets pointed at me, the chances are good that I'm going to fret.

As far as SOB carry, right or left holster is about the same as far as ease of draw. Safety of draw is another story. With a right hand holster, the grip will be up, insert thumb between body and gun, draw, bring gun around and forward. Muzzle tracks a small circle on the ground around you. With a lefty holster, you insert your whole hand between gun and body, draw, and the muzzle tracks a nifty line across your spine, kidney, guts, etc, until it clears, and is pointed downrange. Risky, but hey, it's your choice.

The other issues to SOB carry are that there exists a chance that you will slip and fall, and having a steel bar across your spine whilst doing so is another one of those risky ideas. It's not very comfortable to sit on a gun that way, and there is very little in the line of retention that can be done from that position.

~~~Mat

ClickClickD'oh
November 2, 2007, 02:40 PM
If you carry SOB, only carry with the magazine well facing upwards. If you carry magazine well down, the natural untrained drawing motion will sweep a good portion of your lower back because your natural motion will draw the weapon, then rotate the muzzle forward as you present the weapon. Drawing with the magzine well up positions your wrist differently so that the muzzle rotates down away from your body on the draw, and then upwards through a normal strong side hip draw motion.

I've worn a magwell up SOB for years. Never fallen on it. Fallen on my butt many times. Only time I don't wear it is when I'm going to be in a vehicle for an extended amount of time... Then I wear a shoulder rig.

AZ_Rebel
November 2, 2007, 02:56 PM
First round is a heavier DA pull, so I don't fret where the muzzle points until the target is sighted.

Hmmmmmmm.... may I respectfully suggest that you rethink this policy.

Throwing out one of the FOUR safety rules is not an acceptable way to justify your mode of carry. In some circles you will be more than "spoken to harshly" if you point the muzzle in an unsafe direction.

There are ways to draw the gun from this position safely but to say it does not matter because you have a DA pull is rediculous.

RyanM
November 2, 2007, 04:36 PM
I dunno what an "urban safari" rig is, but I usually carry my backup piece IWB LH appendix. Appendix is more easily accessible in some circumstances where neither SOB nor behind the hip would be.

Ethereal
November 2, 2007, 11:23 PM
Nothing wrong with it at all, considering that this setup will be for a back-up gun not a primary. If you don't mind a "palms out" draw then it actually works pretty alright.

ktd
November 3, 2007, 06:59 PM
One thing about doing it this way is that you can carry more to the side, so that if you fall, you hurt your kidneys rather than spine. Galco actually offers a holster set up for this, with the thumbsnap reversed so that you press it away from your body instead of into your body. Otherwise it works best with a holster where you can adjust the cant, like a Bianchi 3S.

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