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elderboots
October 31, 2007, 12:44 PM
Glock or Sig? Right now I carry a Ruger P345. While I am pleased with this gun, it is just not a good overall carry for me. Any suggestions:confused:

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RLsnow
October 31, 2007, 12:47 PM
glock!! glock!!

-terry
October 31, 2007, 01:30 PM
I have a Sig P220 and a CZ 75B. Not surprisingly, they both have exactly the same barrel/handle angle. They both fit my hand naturally and easily.

If you like the angle of your current piece, get whatever gun has the same angle.

-terry

98C5
October 31, 2007, 01:37 PM
Both are great except the SIG 1911's. Stay FAR away from them.

Glock is the down and dirty workhorse.
Sigs are the more "status" pistols, but are still very good.

YMMV

Walkalong
October 31, 2007, 01:54 PM
Sig over the Glock.

YosemiteSam357
October 31, 2007, 01:56 PM
You going to carry it? You'll probably find the lightweight Glock easier to carry than the Sig. Both great guns, though.

-- Sam

CountGlockula
October 31, 2007, 02:06 PM
A compact or subcompact Glock would be your selection.

Gustav
October 31, 2007, 02:32 PM
That is a hard choice to make

Glock advantages
Lighter weight
More choices in calibers and frame sizes
Cheaper initial purchase price
Simple basic durable tool
Smooth lines aid in CCW
Less likely to worry about getting in banged up or scratched (combat tupperware:neener:)
Low hand to bore axis means less felt recoil
Fast and short trigger reset
Very few parts a simple proven design
Very durable finish and polymer which does well in a harsh or wet climate

Glock disadvantages
Factory sights can break and the front factory sight can come off once it has been banged or dropped!
No second strike if you have a bad primer strike
Not always the safest choice for semi skilled or unskilled shooters
You must dry fire the pistol to field strip it
Barrel rifling type does not allow lead reloads and factory does not recommend
handloads
The plastic recoil spring guide rod can break as can the trigger spring, it rarely happens but I have seen it a couple of times

Sig Advantages

Among THE best pistols currently made top quality materials and craftsmanship
You can choose from double action/single action to double action only.
Very good proven designs (very few disgruntled Sig owners)
Good ergonomics
Simple to use and train with
Simple and safe to take down with no need to dry fire
Has a decocker should you need it
Usually more accurate than a Glock
One can use different grips with it as well as the short trigger if one has small hands
Sights are allot more secure with dovetail mounting front and rear, the Glock front sights can come of and the adjustable factory rear sights can break.
More people feel pride of ownership in owning a Sig than a Glock as Glocks are seen more as tools.
Higher resale value if that is a concern
With a light primer strike you can have the option to pull the trigger again something the striker fired Glock can't do.

Sig disadvantages
Higher initial cost
More weight in comparable models
Not as smooth lines more edges and corners
A bit thicker than a Glock since the Glock does not have grip panels
Higher slide to hand ratio for some it seems to recoil a little more
Can be harder to find new or used as they are less common and people seem to keep them for some strange reason or another.

These are my observations and opinions others will have their own, either one is a good choice pick the one that feels and works best for you rent beg or borrow one of each and buy a few boxes of ammo and ring them out and see which you like.;)

Best of luck.

Maximum1
October 31, 2007, 03:12 PM
Neither...Springfield XD 9 sub-compact or full size.

Hokkmike
October 31, 2007, 03:16 PM
Win win!

phantomak47
October 31, 2007, 03:53 PM
If its a carry only gun, I would get a Glock 19 over a Sig 229, although if you dont mind the size, I like carrying my Sig 226. The Sig 229 for me just isn't balanced right and I remember quite clearly someone here telling that unlike the Glock 17 and Glock 19, the Sig 229 doesn't feel like a smaller version of the 226. Personally I think the Glock 19 is the best compact carry 9mm on the market. I would highly reccomend shooting both and finding out for yourself. Good shooting.

Ghost Tracker
October 31, 2007, 04:23 PM
A GLOCK G19 or a Sig 239? That's like choosing between a dark-eyed brunette with money or a leggy redhead who can cook! Either way...you're gonna' be pretty happy!

JAB
October 31, 2007, 05:07 PM
I love dark eyed brunettes, is that the sig or glock, thats the one id take:p:D:p

JDGray
October 31, 2007, 05:12 PM
Went through the same thing myself. P345 is pretty bulky, but a great shooter. Bought a G19 and love it, great ccw and range gun, and 10oz lighter than the Ruger.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b278/JDG357/guns041.jpg

bigred82
October 31, 2007, 05:19 PM
If you go Glock, I would suggest the G19.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/jaronhudgins/P226/IMG_6624.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/jaronhudgins/P226/IMG_6825cropsat.jpg

If you go SIG, the P228/P229 or P226 are excellent choices.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/jaronhudgins/P226/IMG_6865.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/jaronhudgins/P226/IMG_7063-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/jaronhudgins/P226/IMG_7074-1.jpg

Out of the three - the P226 is my favorite for range and general fun - closely followed by the P228.
For carry winter carry - I would go with the G19 or the P228. For summer carry - I would look at either the S&W 642/442 or the Kahr MK9/PM9.

tbtrout
October 31, 2007, 09:46 PM
Sig all the way, Glocks are good I just do not like them.

The Lone Haranguer
October 31, 2007, 10:14 PM
... it is just not a good overall carry for me.
What do you not like about it? Examine the traits that make it unsatisfactory, compare them to the gun you are considering and see which addresses your concerns better.

Other than maybe (I have only held, never shot one) the P220 SAO, I prefer Glocks (especially the 9mm Glock 19) to SIGs. Their long stroke DA/SA triggers and large grips make them too difficult for me to shoot well, although their accuracy and reliability is outstanding.

brashboy
October 31, 2007, 10:16 PM
Sig.

possum
November 1, 2007, 01:06 PM
i would defenitly say the glock unless the sig had the DAK trigger then i mihgt seriously give the sig a chance but otherwise i would take the glock all day long.

tnieto2004
November 1, 2007, 01:52 PM
I'd have to say GLOCK!

1BLINDREF
November 1, 2007, 02:11 PM
Have you shot both??
I find a Glock and a Sig to be very different.

1. The grip angle is completely different.
2. The safetys on a Glock have to be manually manipulated.
3. Plastic vs metal frame.
4. Trigger pull / type.

These are some major differences that will give you differing opinions as to which one to buy.
Personally, I like and shoot Sigs much better, but that doesn't mean that you will.
As far as quality and reliability go, you won't go wrong with either choice.
Since you are asking for opinions, shoot both of them side by side if you can.
Then pick the one that you like and shoot best! :)
Good luck.

Silvanus
November 1, 2007, 02:15 PM
I prefer Glocks. Even the 17 is very easy to conceal for me.

Lonestar49
November 1, 2007, 02:27 PM
...

What are your needs?

A gun with, or without a Hammer (DA/SA) ability to carry one chambered but with the hammer down, yet, able to manually thumb-cock into SA mode.

A gun that is lightweight, balanced, a natural, point to aim, shooter ?

One that is Known for dependability and reliability, Sig and Glock apply.

A compromise of ones grip, or a-must, it must feel great, every-time ?

From the pics I have seen of 1Blindref, he has a couple of Sigs, SAO, DAO, in the smaller Sig CCW versions, P239 IIRC, or a P220 SAS, are some that fits most of everything I have mentioned above, are lightweight, small, and will not paint, yet, have safety features that one cannot get confused with..

Add to that, from what I know, Sigs are one of the easiest guns to disassemble, inspect, clean, and reassemble, out there, bar none.

There is a complete package out there with your hand and name on it..


Ls

RevolvingCylinder
November 1, 2007, 06:12 PM
Apples or oranges?

I don't see how the two even compare except they both operate off of the short recoil principle.

Thernlund
November 1, 2007, 06:15 PM
SIG P220, for my part.


-T.

DC3-CVN-72
November 1, 2007, 06:46 PM
I have a SIG. P-220 .45 ACP instead of a GLOCK only because I don't like striker fired wepons. Nothing wrong with a GLOCK, I just prefer a hammer.:)

sdj
November 1, 2007, 08:31 PM
That's a tough one, for sure. If weight were my primary concern and I was lining up for a firearm that was carried a lot, I'd have to go with the compact glock, I reckon: they weigh in a lot less than the Sigs. If it's a carry-a-lot-shoot-not-so-much gun, how about a 10mm G29 or a G30 (.45) or a G33 (.357). Of course, if your considering Glock, it would seem that you are opening a door that leads into a room that is just chock full polymer goodies. :-)
Good luck.

james_bond
November 1, 2007, 08:34 PM
Out of your mentioned choices I say get the sig, but I would also recmond checking out the Springfield XDs.

Vito_Corleone
November 1, 2007, 10:45 PM
I LOVE my P220. Glocks are great guns, but I wouldn't trade my P220 for one... EVER.

bluestarlizzard
November 1, 2007, 11:12 PM
"2. The safetys on a Glock have to be manually manipulated."

errr... i think someone got confused. glock has no external saftey.

R&J
November 2, 2007, 01:28 AM
G17 or G19!

--Ray

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