1100 20 ga : Hell Week


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October 31, 2007, 02:04 PM
This is a LNIB Fixed IC vent rib model.
Bought for $159 plus tax back in the day.
Real nice wood!

Bought, used very little with light dove and quail loads, and then set into a safe, where inspected and maintained all these years.
Owner's manual has no mention of Rem-Oil, Rem-oil had not come out yet.
Instead a free tin can of Browning gun oil came with this gun, along with a box of AA #9 skeet loads for quail, as that is what the gun was going to used for, quail.

Note: last price I heard for a Tin of Browning gun oil was $65, at the Tulsa show some years ago.

Lady that owns this, basically is beside herself. She stole it, for what she gave for the gun, and the tin of Browning gun oil.

Sitting down? $150.
This gun is a 20 ga, fixed choke, and therefore not modern enough to handle today's needs -seller

Nod head, pay the man and run like hell is how one handles this.

I was about to pee myself and could not stand it. I waited until I found a Burger King, let out a yell, ran inside to pee and got me a order of Onion Rings and Real Coke to celebrate. -Lady buyer.
:D

Makes perfect sense to me, even if I would have gotten a Dr. Pepper instead...

She toted this back broken down, in Sack-Ups and stuck in this most pitiful looking baseball bat carrier you ever did see.
She paid $2 for this thing, new, still ripped when a box cutter got this one when the package of these opened.
She can sew a button, but admits sewing this fabric sew up job "looks like Frankenstein".

I like the garage sale baseball glove hanging off this thing...
Her deal " I have a really rough nephew that could tear up an anvil with a Peanut Butter and Jelly Sandwich".

No she doesn't, neat nephew, he razzes back real well.

-

Gun came with a package of 10 of the old original "O" rings.

I reminded her the opposite side of port is razor sharp, so be careful.
She has been a member of the 1100 Index Finger Club for years...


Assembled gun, just as she brought it home, that old "O" ring, still on the gun, dribbled some Browning gun oil, and using Fiocchi 20 ga light loads, run the gun 300 round the first day, without a hitch.

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October 31, 2007, 02:28 PM
I understand why my Mentors & Elders always had a grin.

There is just something about a lady with a new gun, and other ladies making over this thing.
I learned, a new Home Depot long screwdriver, is the proper gift to give a lady with a new shotgun.
Oh yeah, cheese dip, salsa, and lots of chocolate.

I just grinned, nodded, and gave input when asked as she took this gun down and went through it.

Flip a coin to see who gets to use a Battery Operated Drill to clean chamber and bore,and mag tube.

Now I shared back in the day, [yes, I recall these being $159 NIB] with the high round counts in Skeet, Dexcron Automatic Trans Fluid for IIRC 39 cents a quart was used on gas guns.
ATF stinks and some ladies get a reaction to ATF.

Still I wanted to share.
We did not have all the stuff back then, on the market today.
Guns ran, and with high round counts.

Dumb, sentimental and all, she wanted to use the Browning Gun Oil as that is what I used back in the day.

Ladies had ammunition all figured out.
Pattern Board work and slug groups planned.

Discussion of adding sling swivel studs or not, the wood is really nice and she is not sure if she wants to do this or not. Some tweaking of the gun fit later and she decided to have these installed and this lead to a simple leather sling.
Horses and leather and ...synthetic ain't gonna cut it for this gal.
She did not need a Pach Decelerator, still...she had one put on, and the toe, heal contoured.
She has it set up to shoot from Low Gun, as she was taught to shoot Skeet .
[Guess who?]

The ladies best guess as nobody really kept an accurate round count, another 250 rds on one day, of mixed target loads, slugs, buckshot and all.
Pattern board work, then sharing the gun shooting Skeet.

"Don't do anything with the gun, until you holler at me" - I asked.

Owner agreed. She and the ladies want to see how back in my day we run the guns, high round counts, and they kept running.

250 +300 = 550 rds in two days time, without a hitch.

We are just getting started...

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October 31, 2007, 02:44 PM
At this point the gun is still as she brought it home. None of the gun fit done or anything.

250 rounds fired, and all we cared about was chamber, extraction, the two most common problems on a shotgun.

Bolt back, and with a 12 ga brush on a Aluminum rod bent to fit into chamber, twisted and turned.
Wad of paper towel inserted and this really flexible thin wooden dowel pushed through breech, chamber and out muzzle.
Pipe clean breach face, extractor.
Two drops of Browning Gun Oil.

It'll run. These Old guns were built different than today's 1100.
Trigger on this one out of the box...sweeeet!

"That is it? " they asked
"Yep. Go shoot it, if it stops, let me know and we will see the reason why?" - I said.

4 ladies used this gun to shoot 4 boxes each at skeet.
25 rounds to a box *4 = 100 rds * 4 = 400 rds, plus any misc rounds.

650 rounds since "cleaned".

Again did chamber only, pipe clean breech face, extractor.

"When you get to round count 1000 or so, holler at me".

So again they all went out and shot, and again 400 rds or so, with 4 ladies shooting 4 boxes each.

Quality factory ammunition, Quality reloads.

NO promo loads, or economy loads.

Gun is still running, no malf's with gun, or ammunition. and now to take a looksee...

After we shoot a hat, one gal shot her first 50 straight...tradition, and we have been looking forward to shooting that silly hat she has been wearing.

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October 31, 2007, 02:58 PM
Gun taken down
Battery drill with aluminum rod, 12 bore brush for chamber, bore pipe cleaner for ports- less than 2 minutes and done.

Stiff brush, pipe cleaners on Trigger group, done.
Repeat for bolt, gas system and all , done.
"O" ring - hot soapy water, I like the lemon smell of Lemon Joy, done.

Original "O" ring still mind you.

One fellow pitched in 20 rounds of 2 3/4" Brennke slugs
200 rounds of #3 buckshot was pitched in.
200 rounds of slugs pitched in.

Lady was primary, she wanted to know what this gun would do.
She fired 200 rounds total of Slug and Buckshot by herself and the gun never missed a beat in one day.

Next day, she shot up the rest of the slug and buckshot ammunition.

Note, she only shot 5 of the Brenneke's. 5 shots told us, this gun likes these, so 15 are put back.

Repeat taking barrel off and the simple inspect and maintain.

"O" ring still running.

My next suggestion was to shoot the gun until it stops...

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October 31, 2007, 03:09 PM
Shoot the gun, only add lube if sluggish, but keep shooting until it quits.
Wipe it off before putting it away of course.

So the lady and other ladies and gents shot this gun, mostly with target loads, still some slugs, buckshot, and hunting loads shot as well.

A little over 1800 rds later blown primer hung up the gun.
Punched out Trigger Group, got the primer out, wiped off gunk, stuck TG back in and ran until around 2000 rds.

At this point, we decided this was as good a time as any to stop.

Gun has been taken down, stock fit tweaked, sling studs, recoil pads and all done.
Cleaned, lubed and loaded with Brenneke's for Serious Duty while home, and she knows what the gun likes, from what the Pattern Board Revealed.

Oh, she shot 550 straight while doing this testing. Some others shot some straights for themselves as well.

Gun survived Hell Week.

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October 31, 2007, 03:21 PM
This lady earned all this.
She come to us here some time ago and needed some assistance.
She was recovering from Detached Retina, Shoulder and Knee Surgery.
Doctor's Orders - NO Recoil.
So part of her Physical Therapy, once approved by Doctors and Physical Therapy, was some exercises to assist in shotguns.

Weak side shoulder, knee and eye the affected side.

Banged up, still she read Brister, and Misseldine's works.
Ladies and I worked with her on correct basics.

With the wood stock only off a Marlin 60 she practiced correct basics , such as mounting gun to face, stance and all.
At first not able to do much, and working up to all this.

Single shot .410 added some weight, then a Single shot 28, and 20 gauge to better fit her.

Now I would have preferred a 1100 in 28 gauge to let her actually shoot with.
She was doing her repetitions at home and all with one, still Doc and PT wanted her to wait.
Her first live fire was with a 1100 in .410.
28 gauge were primer only hulls.

With her injuries, no way were we going to do harm.

Truth is she wanted a Beretta gas gun, especially a 303.
This deal came up and was just too good a deal to pass up.

Like I said, I understand why my Mentors grinned as they did.

Fred Fuller
October 31, 2007, 08:02 PM
Steve,

Glad to hear your Mentee is doing so well, improving physicaly to the point she can do all this. Please pass along my congratulations and best wishes to her! And tell her to keep it up...

lpl/nc (sorry I didn't get back to the phone last PM, the other incoming was from A'stan and I was afraid to switch back and forth on the lines again to tell you lest I fumble the call)

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October 31, 2007, 08:39 PM
Lee,
I will pass along your well wishes.

The other call was more important, no problem.
I did try to email you, but it bounced back twice.

The lady started out with correct basics and earned where she is.
Other ladies assisted, I was just the fellow grinning and doing my thing.

I have no idea where she got her take on Fuzzy Dice and Curb Feelers...*snicker*

Shell Shucker
October 31, 2007, 11:20 PM
YE-HAA! Seven Back-Slappin' posts....... Get a Life!!!!!!!!!

foghornl
November 1, 2007, 11:09 AM
Steve:

Keep up the mentoring, 'specially for the Ladies...pass forward the Life Lessons we ALL need.

Might mention here how deep a shade of Envy Green I am....If you called that deal on the Remmy 1100 a 'steal'...well I call it more like 'Grand Theft'. How come I never run accross "gun shop idiocy" like that?

Can't imagine a better light recoiling, but super-duty capable shotgun than a 20-Ga Remmy 1100...unless maybe a 28-Ga. (does 28-Ga have slugs/buckshot available? haven't looked lately since I don't own a 28)

Dave McCracken
November 1, 2007, 10:24 PM
Great mentoring. More of us should....

Scoupe
November 2, 2007, 01:45 AM
Awesome.

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