Philly Cop shot: Mayor Response


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DontBurnMyFlag
October 31, 2007, 11:06 PM
In case anyone wasnt aware, there have been 3 Philadelphia cops shot in the past 4 days. I could post the stories and the links, but they have little to do with the anger I need to express. The anger is directed at the mayor of philadelphia and his political views being squeezed in to an interview and press release on an officer's condition.

Usually, the press waits a week or a few days until they start with their "tougher gun laws" stance. But this was literally hours into the shooting that mayor street and the police commissioner stood up on TV and stated the usual anti-nonsense.

It might just be that Im a cop and was already pissed off at the fact one of our own went down. But I was just madder than usual at the tripe that escapes these politicians mouths. To me it sounded like the following

"yea yea..cop..shot...critical condition...suspect on loose...but we have a gun problem here in philadelphia and pennsylvania. We have a gun problem in the United states. We need tougher gun laws" etc etc etc.

They didnt have the decency to wait until the manhunt is over or until the next day to throw in their political punches.

We have a criminal problem in the United states, Mr Street!!! Our revolving doors and useless justice system is why there is so much violence.

Once again, I just want to gauge your responses on the situation.

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Autolycus
October 31, 2007, 11:09 PM
Well... sorry he got shot.

In the end the politicians will say this because they cant control crime.

FieroCDSP
October 31, 2007, 11:14 PM
From the story I read earlier, the BG got the drop on the officer, or maybe there wasn't time to react. Regardless, the crime problem in Philly is not going away until someone decides to do something about it, instead of blaming inanimate objects. And I for one believe politics should be left out of crime fighting.

plexreticle
October 31, 2007, 11:19 PM
I own alot of guns and I've never had the desire to shoot at the police.

If someone is willing to shoot a cop what are few stupid guns laws going to do to stop him?

esheato
October 31, 2007, 11:20 PM
I would suggest re-directing that frustration and writing a letter...or maybe lots of letters.

Ed

kcmarine
October 31, 2007, 11:21 PM
I own alot of guns and I've never had the desire to shoot at the police.

If someone is willing to shoot a cop what are few stupid guns laws going to do to stop him?


DING DING DING!!!

You have just said what everyone was thinking!

Thank you for using common sense!

Johnny, tell him what he's won...

Crunker1337
October 31, 2007, 11:35 PM
It angers me greatly when politicians use the shootings of good cops to justify infringements upon the very rights that the cops are supposed to protect.

sdj
October 31, 2007, 11:49 PM
"We have a criminal problem in the United states, Mr Street!!!"

Agreed. Passing laws is to governments what sending memos is to bureaucrats.

Sigh...

.cheese.
October 31, 2007, 11:52 PM
I'm starting to wonder if moving to Philly (I'm moving SOMEWHERE in a year and Philly was on the list of possibilities) is a bad idea. It seems to be headed in a bad direction.

How did that home rule thing turn out, or has it not gone to a vote yet?

XD-40 Shooter
November 1, 2007, 12:10 AM
When CNN did their hit piece on Philly and blamed all of the crime problems on guns, a pro-gun Pennsylvania representative was interviewed, I forget his name, but this is what he said when Randi Kay pressed him on more gun laws:barf:, he said "more gun control laws are just a convienient way to avoid enforcement". Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner! We all know that gun laws in Philly aren't enforced worth a damn to begin with, this guy is right on the money.

MartinBrody
November 1, 2007, 12:16 AM
How did that home rule thing turn out, or has it not gone to a vote yet?

This has not gone anywhere.

I live in Chester County (Philly Suburbs) and oddly enough we are not seeing the same levels of crime they have in Philly, must be our strict gun laws in the burbs as opposed to the lax laws the city has.

Skirmisher
November 1, 2007, 09:23 AM
I wish someone would ask these politicians, "just what law do you think these criminals would obey?" Liberals seem to have a hard answering direct questions.

Pax Jordana
November 1, 2007, 09:29 AM
I live in Chester County (Philly Suburbs) and oddly enough we are not seeing the same levels of crime they have in Philly, must be our strict gun laws in the burbs as opposed to the lax laws the city has.

Isn't that funny, I live in Delaware county (for those that don't know that's right between Chester and Philadelphia counties) and we've got that very same problem. Maybe if we give up solving problems on our own and ask the politicians to help, we can catch up to philly in a decade or so.. whaddaya say MartinBrody? :barf:


But back on topic, Philly is addicted. They're addicted to asking for help, and not trying to solve their own problems. And the more things go bad, the more they will ask for help, and the harder the crackdown will have to be each time. I expect riots within my lifetime, barring a drastic change in the political climate - and given the demographics involved, a drastic change is a highly unlikely surprise.

DontBurnMyFlag, I'm sorry one of your fellow cops got shot. Just know you're pawns in this game too.. the more politicians promise, the more overextended you'll be, the greater the risks. I bet a little dissent on how things should be run, spoken eloquently from within the law enforcement community, would perhaps be enough to start some people thinking..

Elza
November 1, 2007, 12:53 PM
Tecumseh: In the end the politicians will say this because they cant control crime.Very true. Regardless of what lies the politicians spew, crime can be controlled to some extent. However it requires placing the blame on an individual. To suggest that individuals are personally responsible for their actions is not ‘PC’ in today’s world. The powers-that-be can not allow such thinking. If that were the case, people might get the idea that politicians are responsible for their actions as well. :what:

Colt
November 1, 2007, 01:05 PM
The local newscasts in the Philly enjoy citing the fact that the city is now the leading US city in shooting homocides per capita, and also has some of the least restrictive gun ownership regulations.

One statistic they'll never cite, is that Philly is also the leading city in parolees per capita. They also never reveal that virtually all the guns used in the homocides are possessed in violation of the existing laws.

You want to see gun violence in Philly? Disarm the law-abiding citizens. If you think things are bad now...

sacp81170a
November 1, 2007, 01:42 PM
"Officer Cassidy succumbed to a gunshot wound sustained the previous day when he walked into a robbery in progress while walking his beat. He was shot in the head as he walked into a restaurant at 66th Avenue and Broad Street."

http://www.odmp.org/officer.php?oid=19045

I note that there was a crime in progress. Was the gun committing the robbery, or was there a criminal involved? That's the question I would have asked Mr. Street... :barf:

foghornl
November 1, 2007, 01:49 PM
Philly Mayor Street & Cleveland Mayor Jackson....they gotta be clones...

No crime is EVER caused by the criminal...it is always the fault of THE EEEEEVIL GUN


My condolences to the families, and to all the Good Guys-N-Gals in The Thin Blue Line. We are all diminished by this.

geekWithA.45
November 1, 2007, 01:55 PM
I just want to gauge your responses on the situation.

The political institution of Philadelphia has demonstrated that it has no shame in using any and all events to further its ideological agenda, right up to and including dipping their beaks into the blood of fallen police officers.

The Blue Brethren would do well to take notice of this.

Colt
November 1, 2007, 02:16 PM
I expect riots within my lifetime, barring a drastic change in the political climate - and given the demographics involved, a drastic change is a highly unlikely surprise.

The irony is staggering. The government has "failed" the people who have become dependent upon it to buy their food, care for the children, and pay their heating bill.

What is their solution to the homicide problem in Philly?

More government!

Don't ask about strengthening families or the concept personal responsibility. Don't ask all those racist questions.

We in the suburbs are being told to just shutup, pay higher taxes, surrender our rights, and leave the rest to the mayor.

(the same mayor who spends his time waiting in line for an iPhone and leading the crusade against transfat in city restaurants.)

DontBurnMyFlag
November 1, 2007, 02:58 PM
our reaction when we heard the news was typical. We are 100% sure that this criminal has a record that will most likely include dozens of minor arrests (simple assault, weapon possession, drugs etc) and probably a few major arrests and convictions. This is a frequent flier. There is no way this guy just woke up one day and said, let me do an armed robbery at the most crowded store in the AM.

Put em away longer and we wouldnt see this problem.

and thank you for your equally enraged responses. :D

SSN Vet
November 1, 2007, 03:09 PM
We have a criminal problem in the United states, Mr Street!!! Our revolving doors and useless justice system is why there is so much violence.

Amen!!

Gun Control and the criminal's rights focussed, boo-hoo, revolving door justice system.....

two failed policies cut from the same clothe.......just different shades of the color Blue.

now a long drop and a short rope......that might just do the trick

cuts way down on repeat offenders

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