Am I nuts?


Henry Bowman
July 16, 2003, 02:30 PM
I am being recruited by an employer who would require that I move from Ohio (no CCW) to Illinois (suburb west of Chicago). Strictly from a gun laws and politics perspective, am I crazy to even consider a move into IL? :confused:

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July 16, 2003, 02:34 PM
no your not nuts........however maybe the govt of said state might be. do what you gotta do to pay the bills. an vote an state your opinions on the matter

July 16, 2003, 02:35 PM
You make it sound like you might actually be working within the sphere of influence of the Daley political machine. If this is the case, I'd say you are crazy.

If you are far enough outside Chicago, I'd say it is a toss-up.

[smart aleck mode on]
From California, I can't tell the difference between Ohio & Illinois. :D
[end smart aleck mode]

July 16, 2003, 02:40 PM
If you are far away from Cook County...........hmmmm maybe
In the Fifedom limits of Emperor DICK Daley II.....NOT ! !

p.s. Dav, from Greater Cleveland, OH, I can't tell the difference...except I don't need a FOID card to buy guns & ammo.

Old Fuff
July 16, 2003, 02:46 PM
No you're not nuts. This is a lifestyle quality issue though. Obviously you have to earn a living and possibly support a family - which comes first, or at least should.

That said, I wouldn't move to the Chigago area for all the tea in China. I usually have to go through the place when I'm going to Michigan from Arizona, or the other way around. They're so-called highway system is the pits, and I don't know how the locals stand it. I used to reside in Michigan. Now I live in gun-friendly Arizona and "visit" back east. Chicago represents everything I can't stand, from over-regulation of everything, to some of the worst anti-gun laws there are - enforced by a liberal/socialist government.

But this is a decision you have to make, based on your circumstances. I wish you luck.

Henry Bowman
July 16, 2003, 02:46 PM
Work would be inside Cook County. :( Could live outside. :)

H Romberg
July 16, 2003, 02:52 PM
Would you have to get RID of your guns if you took it? If so, I'd like to offer good dry homes to all of them. No charge!:D

AJ Dual
July 16, 2003, 02:59 PM
You might even want to consider living in Kenosha WI. And commuting to Chicago, especialy if the workplace is more twoards the north end of the city. It sounds like an extreme commute, but I-94 across the state line is pretty quick, or at least no worse, compared to getting from western burbs to downtown during rush hour. And your housing dollar will go about twice as far in WI than it will in the Chicago burbs.

WI gun laws, except for no CCW (Just won an "affirmative defense" ruling from our State SC, so we're now equal to Ohio on CCW, and a bill with good odds for permits is up for vote this year.) are as good as anywhere else, and a bit better than Ohio, no FOID, and no bans other than Federal. We also have range protection, and state pre-emption, so no piddly city bans here either.

Just a suggestion.

July 16, 2003, 03:05 PM

Pull up a map and see how close the Indiana border is. Hoosiers are a gun friendly sort. ;)

I don't know if the South Shore Railroad is still any good anymore, but I remember having fun riding it to go to the big city when I was a young pup. Goes all the way from the South Bend airport to Chicago. Lots of folks commute this way.

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Henry Bowman
July 16, 2003, 03:46 PM
The city is Hoffman Estates (west of Chi-town, just inside Cook Cty, not downtown). WI might be possible , but IN would not.

The thought of a FOID card makes me shutter. :eek:

July 16, 2003, 04:58 PM
In the halcyon days of youth, when I took my RKBA for granted, I lived in PA, and moved to NJ to join my beloved geeketteWithA9mm.

I've regretted it ever since, and returning to freedom has become a high priority.

In the meantime, I do what I can to help these poor Jersey SOB's out.

July 16, 2003, 05:39 PM
A couple of my wife's relatives live in Chicago.
They weren't raised to be sheep, but they sure seem to have gone that way. The stuff they put up with just to park their cars would have people here storming city hall.

I don't even like to go through Illinois!

July 16, 2003, 05:46 PM
Illinois in and of itself isn't bad. Chicago is truly a cess pool in more ways than one, but Southern Illinois is a really decnt area. If only it were as wealthy and as densely populated, therefore well-represented, as Chicago, things would probably be different. Most of the Southern Illinoisians I know (my fiancee and her family) are gun-owners and resent the influence that Chicago has over their lives.


Good luck if you do take the job. Knowing how dangerous the Windy City is, I doubt I'd want to live anywhere near it, especially without the ability to defend myself and my loved ones.

Just my $0.02.


July 16, 2003, 05:46 PM
If you're only being recruited, meaning you're not currently starving, I'd keep looking, unless it's just too good an opportunity to pass up.

Then again, I live in the relatively gun-friendly southern US. No way I'd move to Chicago, or any place like it.

July 16, 2003, 07:51 PM
although you don't have to be IN Kenosha... there're several smaller communities around down there. And we (Cheeseheads) can always use another shooter!

Standing Wolf
July 16, 2003, 08:04 PM
I wouldn't even consider it, but won't fault you if you move to Illinois.

t driver
July 16, 2003, 11:44 PM
Yes, you are nuts. I live in Illinois about an hour and a half s/w of Chicago. I work in the south western suburbs. DO NOT even consider living in Cook County and most of the nearby suburbs aren't that much better. Keep in mind restrictive firearms laws aren't going to be your only issue. The cost of living in that area is outrageous and auto insurance is equally as bad. Just some things to ponder.
p.s. Having a FOID isn't that bad once you get used to the idea. It is just crappy from a rights standpoint.

July 16, 2003, 11:49 PM
Yes, but what that has to do with your situation is moot.:neener:

six 4 sure
July 17, 2003, 01:20 AM
If you decide to take the job I would advise staying out of Cook county. The most restrictive gun laws in the state are in cook county. I'm not even sure if you can own firearms in cook county, but I could be wrong. There are a couple of consertive burbs around there, but I don't know which ones. If it wasn't for the current political suituation I recommend Illinois, but you're moving to my least favorite part of the state, however, we need more pro-gun people here to help vote the demorats out of office, especially our fine new governor.:rolleyes:

I live in Southen Illinois nearly 300 miles from chicago, and I don't care to get any closer. The FOID card is a pain in the backside, but you get used to it after awhile.

Good luck whatever your decision.


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