[.455_Hunter]

Greetings,

I shot this bullet into my “custom” water/denim rag recovery box a few days ago. I thought it might be fun to see who could identify it from pictures only.

Please excuse the blurriness of the second picture. It is mainly there to show the open base construction.

Please post your guess. After a day or so I will post the answer.

Thanks,

Hunter

[FLORIDA KEVIN]

.357 mag 150 grn fmj ? or 30 cal carbine

[GunTech]

Looks like 455 service ball to me.

[Z71]

Almost looks like a .38-200....er..a the 170gr. or so FMJ version of the .38-200 bullet.

[Navy joe]

I think it looks like the FMJ bullet from the retarded U.S. standard issue .38 special hardball.

[SDC]

I'd go with Z71; a 38 S&W FMJ.

[chris in va]

Might be a good idea to have something next to it for scale, like a dime.

And considering your screenname, 455?

[daniel (australia)]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/92/380RevolverMkIIz_Cartridges.JPG/270px-

[Master Blaster]

A CCI stinger

[jpwilly]

Looks a lot like a pistol bullet .355"

[.455_Hunter]

We have some winners! Congrats to Z71, SDC and especially daniel (australia).

I am impressed that THR crowd could figure it out so quick!

The load is a .380 MK II fired from my 1939 production Enfield #2 MK I*.

The load specifics are as follows:

.380 Revolver Mk II z

Pretoria Metal Pressing (PMP)

1967 Lot 2

This 178 gr. South African round gives about 650-680 fps out of my Enfield, a little hotter than normal American .38 S&W loads.

When the Enfield goes out as my CCW, this is the load I have in it!

Thanks for playing! I will have to think of something harder next time.

Hunter

[Z71]

Can't find .38-200, .380 revolver, or whatever ammo anymore. I've looked for it as I prefer it to .38 S&W myself, for my Enfield revolver. I think the last I found was FN manufactured stuff.

I make do with 145gr. Winchester ammo. I just buy .38S&W whenever I run across it. Occasionaly will find a box of Remington ammo of the same caliber floating around. The .38 domestic stuff works fine in my revolver, reasonably accurate and pretty much shoots point of aim. But still did like the full jacketed military stuff when it could be found. Never was too common here in Oklahoma!

Yes! I have shot a bunch of similiar or same .38-200. Don't recall it being called .380 MkII, although I have seen it called .380 revolver.

So what do we all win?

[Geronimo45]

This 178 gr. South African round gives about 650-680 fps out of my Enfield, a little hotter than normal American .38 S&W loads.
Wow. And I thought 'slow' meant 700 FPS or a tad higher. If that's hotter than normal loads, I'm guessing tricycles have a higher speed than the others. :eek:
Webley seems to have cornered the market on big and slow... could you run alongside the bullet so as to shove it onto target if it veered? :p

Seriously, I'm surprised that nobody's come out with a revolver (or auto) with a monstrously-sized bullet (300 grains or more) and a speed around 600 FPS or so. Just a simple .50 caliber cartridge with a recoil more akin to .45 ACP than .44 Magnum.

[Z71]

I always figured the military .38-200/.380 revolver stuff was similiar to standard 158gr. .38 Special power-wise. A slightly heavier bullet thats a bit slower than the Specials.

The .38S&W ain't too bad, but is loaded pretty light to accomodate all the old el-cheapo revolvers, and old worn out revolvers from the 19th century. The .38S&W has been around a long, long time!

[crankshop1000]

Why thats the magic bullet that killed JFK,MLK,RFK and Bambi.

[coelacanth]

you will see that someone has indeed done just what you mentioned. You can read about it at the Guncrafters Industries website. BTW - for those of you concerned about the velocity of the 38/200 it proved itself time and time again to be a deadly killer in the hands those who carried it into battle.