Rifles for the U.S. Secret Service


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Slater
November 8, 2007, 04:20 PM
http://www.fbo.gov/spg/DHS/USSS/PDDC20229/HSSS01%2D08%2DR0008/SynopsisP.html

I don't know - is the M4 carbine a shoo-in for this requirement?

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DoubleTapDrew
November 8, 2007, 04:37 PM
Depends on what they are using them for. I heard the close protection teams use P90s now (seems like a decent concealable weapon). Not sure what kind of requirements the counterfeit side would have, probably similar to FBI, Police, etc.

Guitargod1985
November 8, 2007, 07:03 PM
Wow, I thought it the Secret Service was a part of the Department of the Treasury. That page says it's a division of Homeland Security.

HorseSoldier
November 8, 2007, 07:08 PM
The contract is for a maximum of 250 rifles if I'm reading that right. The economics of buying anything besides the M4 (or possibly the SCAR) seem a little dubious unless the alternate weapon brings some capapbility they need to the table, but then I'm always a bit perplexed by the lack of crosstalk between government agencies and such.

Intrepid Dad
November 8, 2007, 07:18 PM
Wow, I thought it the Secret Service was a part of the Department of the Treasury. That page says it's a division of Homeland Security.

The Secret Service was part of Treasury until September 11th. As part of the government reorganization in response to the attacks it was moved to the newly created Department of Homeland Security.

gunnerh
November 8, 2007, 07:40 PM
After 9/11 ,the Coast Guard was also put in the Department of Homeland Security. The coasties I talked with are happy with move. More money from congress means more sailors and better equipment.

Hoppy590
November 8, 2007, 08:46 PM
The Secret Service was part of Treasury until September 11th. As part of the government reorganization in response to the attacks it was moved to the newly created Department of Homeland Security.

as was the ATF ---> BATFE

351 WINCHESTER
November 8, 2007, 09:05 PM
The Secret Service was a part of the Treasury Dept. There have been a lot of changes especially with DHS since 9/11.

strangelittleman
November 9, 2007, 11:25 AM
I went to Wash.D.C. last April during the Cherry Blossum Festival, while there my son and I talked to some of the Uniformed division Secret Service officers and they are carrying Sig 229sin .357sig. There were two Uniformed Division ERT team members, in their dark response kit, armed w/ pistols only, that were on a roving foot patrol outside the north side (the part that is where the press area and Lafayette park, for those of you that haven't been to D.C.) were very friendly and open to good public relations. They were carrying the H&K p-2000 in .357sig. They told us the service was going to adopt the H&K 416, as the Capitol police just had. It seems the Capitol police were not entirely satisfied w/ the G-36...The two ERT members also said that the WhiteHouse detail no longer used the MP-5, having switched over to the F.N. P-90 for response within and immediately around the White House, Blair house and Old Executive Office Bldg.
This the 2nd time in 5 yrs that I've been to D.C. on vacation and each time the L.E.O.s of all the agencies in D.C. have been great, friendly, patient & helpful to us aggravating tourists, real professionals with a hard job!

jpwilly
November 9, 2007, 05:20 PM
...Too bad the many of the politicians they are protecting are a bunch of scum bags!

MAKster
November 10, 2007, 12:52 PM
ATF is a component of the U.S. Department of Justice.

LittleLebowski
November 10, 2007, 01:28 PM
Pat Rogers has documented that the Capital Police already switched to Rock River M4s and are very happy with them.

gunnerh
November 10, 2007, 01:43 PM
I understood that ATF was in the U.S. Department of Useless Red Tape and Silly Walks (DURTSW)

Geronimo45
November 10, 2007, 02:02 PM
I can't tell if they want a long barrel or short one... if it's a normal-length barrel, I expect the AR to get the nod. If it's an ultra-short barrel, a gas-piston setup might win. I've read that piston designs run a tad better with very short barrels than the DGI setup - less stress on something or other. I suppose the 416 might be under advisement. I doubt that the SCAR would be, since I get the impression that they'll be busy working on those for other interested parties, and probably couldn't deliver in a timely manner.

Pat_Rogers
November 12, 2007, 02:55 PM
Patrol Officers of the US Capitol Police use RRA from the DEA contract. They replaced the non functional G36's.
The USCP tac team uses 416's.

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