[theNoid]

I am just wondering, as I read that delta9 is limited at his range to 6 rounds in his .22 gun(s). Is this true for most ranges? Seems kind of wierd to me, but I am used to growing up and always having the great outdoors and private/public lands to shoot on. Just wondering is all what the ranges reasoning would be. I just can't see how restricting it to six, rather than 10, is making much of a difference in safety.

Things that make me go...hmmmm?

Noidster

[Ron James]

First I've ever heard of this, I've never been to a range that limited the number of rounds. They must have a reason.

[Brian Williams]

PA game commission lands have some ranges, and there they limit to 6 rounds for revolvers and 3 for Semi autos.

[strat81]

My local municipal range and local private ranges have no such restrictions. The muni range superintendent does RSO duty sometimes, he saw my 33-rd Glock mag, laughed and smiled.

[Starter52]

I've never heard of such a thing either. Seems a bit strange to me.

[sm]

No.
I shoot in private places and ranges.
Decades ago I walked off from Public or Game & Fish shooting ranges.

Game & Fish had one controlling authoritative person especially.
One HAD to stop up the road and read the sign.
No guns loaded, no magazines pre loaded, no loaded CCWs even.
6 round max in any thing.
No holster work, no fast shooting, and all.
Skeet, one had to do this, that and the other.

I informed him he could go promptly to hell, and I did not appreciate him berating a mom, frightening a child by snatching keys and making sure that car...
He accused the kid of unloading a magazine in the trunk.
The kid went into the trunk to get a soda and some other stuff.

I then got in touch with the lawyer for Game & Fish, a buddy of mine.
I worked real damn hard to get this guy fired, and advertise NObody use that range.
WE got 19 cars to park just outside the property line and we all lined up, kids to adults, men and women and gave the single finger salute.
To this fella.
I have no idea who put a lock on the gate...
Word is, bolt cutters had to be used so he could leave that evening.

Don't kick a dawg, do not talk to a lady a certain way, and do not treat a kid unkind.

We got fed up with him, and other ranges pulling crap decades ago...
Screw 'em, feed 'em fish heads a rice and some of the folks that do shoot there.
These gun owners are not my kind, and give gun owners a bad rep.

[sixgunner455]

Yeah, they have reasons. They like to control things, and have tiny minds. Petty, petty people.

There is one range in my area, and miles and miles of open country. I use the range when I need known distances, or want to whack steel gongs with a rifle at longer ranges. Sometimes when introducing newbies who want a nice shady place to shoot. Otherwise, I find a nice hillside with a flat face and take care of my business as I need to. Draw and shoot fast, or sit down and nail a rock way out there. Nobody freaks out if I drop my rifle down in front of me (on a long sling) and draw and shoot, and then turn around to walk back to the truck for more ammo or to switch pistols with that scary black rifle hanging in front of me with the barrel pointed at the ground instead of pointing perfectly down range.

[The Lone Haranguer]

PA game commission lands have some ranges, and there they limit to 6 rounds for revolvers and 3 for Semi autos.


You've answered one question, but another important one remains:
WHY??? :confused: ;)

No indoor or outdoor range around here does that. :scrutiny:

[Hoppy590]

no and i wouldnt shoot anywhere that does.

[Guy B. Meredith]

None of the six ranges in the SF Bay area that I have visited have limits.

[RyanM]

I think the local private range has limits on how many rounds you can have. Something like 6 or 10 maximum in a pistol, 3 or 5 or something, in a rifle. There's hardly ever anyone there, anyway. The few people I've seen, that've had high capacity firearms, have ignored the limits.

No rules that I know of about drawing and firing, or anything, and I've seen people practicing their draw several times.

[woad_yurt]

Thank you, Guy B. Meredith! Lately, apostrophes have been reproducing like horny lemmings. Everyone's using them for plurals on signs, menus, business cards, etc. The only place they're scarce is when they should be in "you're." Sorry about the rant; I'm an English teacher with a bit of a pet peeve.

Now, to be on topic as per THR guidelines, my range has no such rules.

[DMK]

No range around here does anything like that. I shoot at a public range on federal forest land. You can shoot as many as you want, as fast as you want.

Man, sometimes I wish I had a range that went longer than 100 yards, but I'm real glad I don't have to put up with the BS some do at their range.

[Jomax]

The indoor range where I shoot has no round count restrictions but they do prohibit certain types of ammunition from being used because - as they have repeatedly said - the augers churning away beneath the "waterfall" way in the back could get jammed up.

[The Lone Haranguer]

Fully automatic fire is allowed on our ranges. A three-round limit in your magazine wouldn't be much fun. :neener:

[BlindJustice]

DiamondBack Shooting Range, Lewiston ID

No round restriction, practice draw to 15 yards
but no cross draw - I don't recall a SHoulder holster
policy. Jeez a range with 6 rd wouldn't be very S&W
617 10 shooter or Marlin 1894 10 + 1 shooter friendly.

Range session last
wednesday, about 40 minutes to fire 114 .45 ACP full moon
clips and 24 .45 Auto Rim in a S&W 625 and 40 more out of
a MOdel 60

[Rexster]

My brother and son tried a rifle range recently that allowed only single-loading! Contrast that with a local handgun range that allows bump-firing. I like neither extreme.

[Moonclip]

I know of one, they only want 5 rounds in the guns, indoor pistol range. This seems to be generally overlooked for .22lr handguns though. It's a LE range open to the public, they also want to "inspect" your guns too. It's the cheapest indoor range in my area but for obvious reasons I rarely go there. Also no magnum calibers, .357sig or 10mm allowed. But the police there practice with .223. So it's not a backstop issue.

[Jimmy Newman]

Maybe the PA Game Commission lands limit shooters to those small numbers of cartridges loaded because of state laws about number of cartridges loaded in handguns while on hunting land? I don't know that PA has those sorts of laws but I have been told that some states do.

[stevereno1]

my range is the family farm. just born lucky i guess.

[TIMC]

Last time I shot this one at the range they asked me to slow it down a little after the second 200 round belt because of neighbor complaints. :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/timc/Mvc-001f.jpg?t=1194912619

[nerfsrule2]

I live in Pa. The reason for the six shot limit on pistols was designed to give the range as a group continuity. They took the average capacity of a revolver and carried it over to semi autos ; supposedly for safety reasons.

[Gator]

Yeah, mine limits CF rifles to single loading and .22s and handguns to five rounds. :( But there aren't a lot of ranges by me.

[bikerbill]

The range I frequent deep in the heart of Texas has no ammo limit, and I've never heard of one. But you can't draw from a holster, and the rangemaster yells at you if you fire more than one round every two seconds or so ..

---

When they kick at your front door,
How you gonna come?
With your hands on your head
Or on the trigger of your gun?

[BridgeWalker]

Yeah, the limit is a little annoying. Once, on an unhumanly hot day when no one else was dumb enough to bed out there, I exceeded in my Marlin 60. Filling that little tube every six rounds is *really* annoying.

I shoot there because the club is friendly and inexpensive and mostly known for its clays games. I shoot trap there twice weekly, which is great (and only one round in the gun, two for doubles, no more, for all clay games).

I like the rifle/pistol ranges there because they are very quiet and I either run into the same two LEO types who taught me pistol-shooting fundamentals, or I'm alone on the whole range at least half the time and can almost always shoot in solitude just by going doing rifle or pistol first and waiting 'til others leave. It's nice shooting alone, especially since I sometimes get really dumb comments about my being a woman going to shoot alone.

And yeah, the idea is that with the six shot limit, it is less likely that you'll stop halfway through for some reason, forget to drop the mag or unload the cylinder, and all kinds of loaded guns will be floating around behind the firing line.

An annoying policy, but well, it's mostly a shotgun club. I like showing up with my mil-surp and I've seen an AR and no one messes with no one for nuthin', but the character of the place does tend in a general a bit more toward the sporting end of things over EBRs and rapid fire. That's the other thing--no rapid fire. But they define it as no more than six shots in ten seconds, so when one obeys the six round limit, it's not too hard to avoid "rapid fire" even with actual rapid fire, if that makes sense.

And no range officer. I have a key, I unlock the gate to get in, lock up behind me, and that's it. Rules are self-enforced, unless someone over at the shotgun house stops to listen real close to patterns of fire. No one messing with anyone. I don't think I'd like dealing with RSO's. :D

[mnw42]

My range has no limit on capacity, but we do have a (court mandated) slow fire policy. We accept it for two reasons: 1) The noise would make some of the neighbors more unhappy. 2) While most of the guys who frequent our range can handle full-auto fire, there are enough yahoos who will walk the rounds over the backstop. Most of the public ranges in Bucks Co., PA have been shut down, so we are being extra cautious.

We also allow people to practice draws on the pistol range, when it isn't too busy. Very few people use cross draw, so it hasn't been a problem.

The magazine restriction seems silly. Especially since it prevents real reliability testing. It has occurred to me, however, that (out side of being small minded) a round limit and other 'silly' restrictions are in place at public ranges to control people who lack respect for guns and those around them. Unfortunately, you cant selectively enforce these rules and as such they have to apply to everyone.

The one of the rules that we have that bothers some people is that you must shoot from a rested position on the rifle range. We did this because we had some mall ninja types ducking behind the benches for cover - from non-existent enemies - popping up to fire a few rounds and then ducking behind the bench again. Needless to say, most of them were not watching the muzzle when they did this.

[Rumble]

You've answered one question, but another important one remains:
WHY???

No indoor or outdoor range around here does that.

Ostensibly, it's to make sure that nobody is sitting forever waiting for their turn at the bench while somebody empties their 100-round drum in slow-fire*. In a couple PA game commission ranges, I can see that almost making sense - they have 1 or 2 benches, total.


* Yes, I realize that's vanishingly unlikely. Which is why the rules are mostly just silly and restrictive for no reason. I happily ignored them at the range I used the most. Then the PA Game Commission closed it. I swear, it wasn't my fault.