Recent Midway Blemish purchase


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ojibweindian
November 12, 2007, 09:15 AM
Last week, I bought 1000 150gr 7mm bullets from Midway. Weighing a sample of 20 showed that variation off of 150gr was minimal; no more than 0.2 grains. These bullets appear to be very consistent in regards to weight.

My only problem is that I've no idea who makes them, and Midway can't say who it is because of an agreement made with the maker of the blemished bullets. They look exactly like the Hornady 154 grain Spire Point bullet https://www.hornady.com/shop/Bullets_Trad_Hunting_popup.htm). Can anybody tell me the manf?

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Grumulkin
November 12, 2007, 10:48 AM
I bought blems from Midway during the sale in several different calibers. I guess we may never have the official word on this, but the ones I bought look EXACTLY like the Hornady bullets I bought before.

strat81
November 12, 2007, 10:52 AM
The JHP pistol bullets look like XTP/HAP bullets. I'm gonna go with Hornady. I know they've expanded shifts and are working on expanding the plant as well. With new people, b-quality output may have gone up.

ojibweindian
November 12, 2007, 11:33 AM
All, I'm thinking Hornady, too, but Hornady's web site and catalog do not list a 150 grain 7mm bullet. There's 139, 154, but no 150. Did Hornady make, then discontinue, a 150 grain 7mm spire point that is identical to the 154 grain spire point?

FieroCDSP
November 12, 2007, 11:47 AM
I got in on this sale too. Look at the number in bold black at the very bottom of the UPC label. This number is the model number the manufacturer assigns. Like mine says 3140BB (I belive the BB represents blemished as I have a B after some of my pistol bullet boxes). I know it's a 7.62 with a .310 diameter. I was able to track it to Hornaday's site and sure enough, their number is 3140. You might have to look around a bit to find it. When I used the search function with just the number, it came up not found, but had a blue link below that went to my bullet.

FieroCDSP
November 12, 2007, 11:51 AM
Also, those might not be Hornaday bullets, but something they had sitting around before the massive shipment from Hornaday came in. That number should help, though.

ojibweindian
November 12, 2007, 12:13 PM
Fiero

Thanks! I'll take a look when I get home :D

strat81
November 12, 2007, 12:31 PM
All, I'm thinking Hornady, too, but Hornady's web site and catalog do not list a 150 grain 7mm bullet. There's 139, 154, but no 150. Did Hornady make, then discontinue, a 150 grain 7mm spire point that is identical to the 154 grain spire point?
Hornady has a reputation for not offering component bullets that they otherwise load in factory ammo. That is, some bullets they "keep for themselves." Leverevolution is one example, and I believe there's a TAP bullet (V-Max) in 223 that isn't available as a component.

Also, not everything is on their site. For example, Graf's offer's a .310 V-max which isn't on Hornady's site. I couldn't find the Hornady Action Pistol (HAP) bullets that Midway sells on Hornady's site either.

BsChoy
November 12, 2007, 12:33 PM
I believe most of those blem bullets were hornady. The 6.5mm 140's I bought were identical to the ones I always use.

ojibweindian
November 12, 2007, 01:53 PM
Ah.

Thanks guys! You always come through :D

Jim Watson
November 12, 2007, 02:41 PM
The pistol bullets I bought were obviously Hornadys.

Walkalong
November 12, 2007, 03:04 PM
The pistol bullets I bought were obviously Hornadys.
Mine too. Now the 6.8 SPC bullets, I dunno.

Anotherguy
November 12, 2007, 04:16 PM
The 9mm hp's I bought during that sale were undoubtedly Hornady XTP's.

taliv
November 12, 2007, 04:36 PM
doesn't mean anything if it's not in their catalogue. bullet mfgs often make "special" stuff for military et al not intended for commercial sale and then unload overruns or seconds on the internet. that's how i got my 100g .224 bullets, which i understand were also made by hornady.
when i took the tour of the sierra plant, there's a room they won't let you go in because it's where they're developing stuff for the military:rolleyes:

sublimaze41
November 12, 2007, 04:46 PM
I pulled out a NEW 200 Gr .44 XTP bullet to compare it to the blemished one. Set them down, turned and could not distinguish between the two.

Asherdan
November 12, 2007, 06:15 PM
I took a look at the .458 300g HP I picked up for 45-70. Identical to the catalog Hornady items except 1/8" up from the base is a rolled ring 1/2 the width of the normal cannelure. With that location I don't see how it'll effect bullet performance so I'm still planning these for about 10 years worth of deer & pig loads when it's all said and done.

taliv
November 13, 2007, 12:41 AM
after the posts about bullets being the wrong diameter, i got out the calipers and measured a half dozen at random of the blemished .451 xtp and they were all identical to the regular boxed stuff. so no problems there.

jeepmor
November 13, 2007, 01:53 AM
How did you find blemished bullets, newsletter or website. I'm searching the website and blem* and blemish are coming up empty for me.

D'oH, just found the clearance tab.

jeepmor

DWARREN123
November 13, 2007, 02:40 AM
I ordered some also, I thnk we all got a good deal on this sale!
Mine are pistol bullets and they do look like Hornady bullets.

ArchAngelCD
November 14, 2007, 04:27 AM
I was able to match up the blems with the name brand by matching the prices. Most of their bullets have different prices so if you search for the caliber you bought, look at the original price of the blems you can usually match it to a Retail price of the original bullet.

retrieverman
November 14, 2007, 11:27 PM
The 270 blems I bought from Midway are Hornady, but the customer service lady sure did give me a song and dance when I called and asked. I told her that I knew that one type were SST's and asked if I could use the Hornady load data on the other type, and she did say that I would be correct using Hornady load data.

sublimaze41
November 15, 2007, 03:40 AM
Shot some .30 cal 168gr ""polymer tip"" out of my .30-06. With 57.1 gr of H4350 I had a grouping of .54. Not to shabby for blemished bullets.

Yep, I matched the cost with Hornady's at Midway and bingo.

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