[jmancini]

Can you put a 9mm conversion barrel in a G35 (effectively making it a G34) and use it for IDPA competition?

The rules seem to say that you can't use a replacement barrel in a caliber not offered by the manufacturer, but since the G34 and G35 are near identical, would it be legal?

Just trying to save a few bucks if I can. Thanks in advance.

[Jim Watson]

You can shoot it, but...
A G35 with a 9mm barrel will have to compete in ESP because it is no longer in the caliber marked on the gun and is therefore no longer a STOCK Service Pistol.

[jmancini]

Yeah, I was afraid it would be something like that. Well, buying some extra .40 isn't the end of the world. :)

[skinewmexico]

Depending on your local club, I doubt if anyone would care. Maybe if you were at a state, regional, or national match.......just shootin in ESP with the XDs.........you can be in the same unfair boat they are......

[jmancini]

Why do the XD's have to compete in ESP? They're a 'safe-action' style trigger, are they not?

[Jim Watson]

No.
The XD striker is fully cocked when at rest, unlike Glock which draws the striker back the rest of the way by trigger action.

[Hoser]

Put a 9x19 barrel in there, shoot SSP and keep your mouth shut.

[HighVelocity]

I now shoot ESP with Glocks because I replace the plastic recoil spring guide with a stainless steel one. It's a silly rule but I find shooting in ESP to be more fun than SSP because the STI/SVI guys don't like to get beaten by plastic. :evil:

[skinewmexico]

Why do the XD's have to compete in ESP? They're a 'safe-action' style trigger, are they not?

It's semantics. No advantage to letting an XD shoot in SSP, just the way the BATF classified them when they came into the US.

[KelTecian]

No one will know if you dont tell them...

[Jim Watson]

How do you figure it is unfair, ski? You think a plastic pistol is at a huge disadvantage to a steel gun in ESP? I don't have the line count vs placement for ESP but the top three places in CDP were shot with plastic .45s.

Real High Road ethics there, Hoser and Kel.

[jmorris]

I'd have to agree with Jim, I’ve seen STI’s / SVI’s being “magic wands” for some shooters but if you think there’s a disadvantage to plastic you’re mistaken.

[Hoser]

Real High Road ethics there, Hoser and Kel.
Your memory is short sir.


You can of course just say nothing about it and shoot. I've never seen an MD look at the roll marks.
The above quote is from http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=2358362&postcount=5

[Jim Watson]

Consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.
Ralph Waldo Emerson.

Every word I use means exactly what I choose it to mean, no more, no less.
Tweedledum

[RobMoore]

Define the difference between a G34 and a G35 with a 9mm barrel, other than the name on the side?

[Glockamania®]

I just picked up a 9mm conversion barrel from Lone Wolf. Haven't shot it yet, but love to use it at IDPA in 9mm.

[SkydivnShooter]

OMG, thanks for the info. I have a 35 and recently started looking for a 34. I never even considered converting the 35 to 9mm with a Lone Wolf barrel.

Dang, I've gotta retract the feelers I put out for a 34.

[skinewmexico]

How do you figure it is unfair, ski? You think a plastic pistol is at a huge disadvantage to a steel gun in ESP?

No, I think it's unfair that XDs can't compete in SSP against Glocks. Or that a stock XD has to compete against a completely tricked out STI or Glock. A stock XD and a stock Glock are fairly matched. But no matter how many times I write Bill Wilson, he doesn't change the rules.

[Bad Company]

I dont understand how one can just throw in a different barrel and convert to 9mm, the case head is different. you'd need a different extractor and ejector...

how does that work?

[Glockamania®]

Bad Company-Basically, the dimensions of a stock G35 .40S&W (length, width, etc) but smaller bore, i.e. 9mm. I'll try to post a picture of my conversion barrel tonight. You can keep the same ejector/extractor.

Also, for those that don't have a 40-9 Lone Wolf barrel, to prevent any failure to eject issues with these conversion barrels...make sure you use the right ammunition and/or a G34 recoil spring for correct cycling. The G35 is used to the .40S&W and shooting 9mms out of it may require some adjustments.

When I first shot my G35 with 9mm conversion, I used Winchester White Box 115 grain. Results were failure to eject and stove pipes; plus every other shot the empty casings would hit my head.

[Bob Hostetter]

Skinewmexico,

Once the XD has had the trigger tuned, the Glock doesn't have a chance......

[severa]

I'm glad to see mention of the recoil spring issue with the smaller caliber barrel. I am looking at getting the G35 with an aftermarket 9mm barrel (lone wolf?) and thought that would be enough. Is there more that needs to be done than just the recoil spring? Btw, I seem to remember having seen a comment that the stock G35 spring is 15lbs but the stock G34 is 13lbs, is that correct? I did try searching for technical specs but didnt get things that detailed...

Actually, while I'm at it... is it reasonable to have two entire uppers (terminology?), ie slide and everything for 9mm and one for .40? If that were possible it seems that might even be legal in ipda since the slide could say 9mm... Sorry for the dumb questions, new to this...

thx,

Mike

[Glockamania®]

Actually, while I'm at it... is it reasonable to have two entire uppers (terminology?), ie slide and everything for 9mm and one for .40? If that were possible it seems that might even be legal in ipda since the slide could say 9mm... Sorry for the dumb questions, new to this...

thx,

Mike

If you TOTALLY want to convert your G35 to a G34, then the only thing left to do is:
Change the ejector to a 9mm ejector, therefore change the whole trigger housing.

[Jim Watson]

Sounds like going to a lot of trouble and expense that would buy a lot of .40.
What is the Internet Fascination with buying big and shooting small?

[severa]

My main concerns were that I wanted something big enough for defense and although I'm sure 9mm will do, the .40 has some advantages in that sense. On the other hand, I cant ignore the difference in cost of the rounds (or I guess the availability in times of crisis). My wife also wants to be able to shoot it and I'd expect the 9mm to be more to her liking.
I also took a deep breath to get some oxygen into my brain and realized since this is my first pistol and I would be a newbie at idpa, it cant hurt to learn on something a bit more friendly. I am planning on getting a second and possibly 3rd gun (probably a 1911 and a revolver) after the waiting periods anyway and will have enough of a possibilty of getting some larger calibers at that point.
Anyway, deed is done.. paid for G34 a couple hours ago. :-)

hmm.. i wonder if i can put a .40 barrel in it... just kidding.. ;-)

[Jim Watson]

I think you showed good sense. A handloader can make a .40 do what he wants it to, but the Cheapmart shopper is better off with a 9. If 17 Ranger Ts don't defend your home, it is time to get out the shotgun.

[richardschennberg]

You are better off getting the whole upper (slide/barrel assembly) and magazines.
Richard
Schennberg.com (http://www.schennberg.com)

[SDM]

Define the difference between a G34 and a G35 with a 9mm barrel, other than the name on the side?
The 9mm conversion barrel is a heavier profile than a normal 9mm barrel.

... Btw, I seem to remember having seen a comment that the stock G35 spring is 15lbs but the stock G34 is 13lbs, is that correct? ...
Stock is 17lbs. for both.


I think the ESP vs. SSP thing may be a region to region or match to match thing.
Around here middle of the road SSP scores would end up near the top of the ESP list....sometimes;)