What does it mean to you?


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strat81
November 14, 2007, 01:20 PM
Let's diverge from the wording of the Second Amendment for a moment.

The RKBA is often exemplified by "Molon Labe" and The Battle of Thermopylae. An epitaph at the battle site reads:

"Tell the Spartans, stranger passing by, that here obedient to their laws we lie."

IMHO, it means "We (the warriors) acted as the Spartan people would have wanted us to act: with courage and bravery."

How do you interpret that line?

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Werewolf
November 14, 2007, 03:26 PM
How do you interpret that line?
Exactly the same way you do...

The implication of your post is that you are asking if gun owners have a code that would require them to fight to keep their right to bare arms.

Is that so?

Euclidean
November 14, 2007, 03:35 PM
I think that "line" is actually an artful translation of a Greek poem or something along those lines.

What it probably means in the historical context of that society and the times is that they only wanted to be recognized as having done their duty. It also has a bit of a double meaning in that the very laws of that society is what spelled their doom, but they never questioned it for even a second because it was their duty to die for Sparta.

Remember, there were so few Spartans at that battle because Leonidas couldn't get his own government to approve mobilizing their full force. They were doomed from the get go; the Spartans were the Alamo defenders of the ancient world.

It's a noble sentiment, but it really has no direct parallel to the struggle for the RKBA imho.

Tommygunn
November 14, 2007, 03:40 PM
"Tell the Spartans, stranger passing by, that here obedient to their laws we lie."

'We died here in obedience to the laws of this land,' is how I'd put it, basically.

strat81
November 14, 2007, 04:18 PM
The implication of your post is that you are asking if gun owners have a code that would require them to fight to keep their right to bare arms.
No. I mentioned the 2A since there is constant discussion about the terms it uses, the punctuation, its relevance, etc. I thought it would be interesting to see what others thought.

ProficientRifleman
November 14, 2007, 04:39 PM
You are precisely correct. They had a suicide mission and did their duty anyway. They simply asked not to be forgotten.

Grizzly Adams
November 15, 2007, 03:20 PM
When I read those lines I can't help but think of the men and women that have given their lives so we could have the freedoms that we enjoy in this country today. One of them is the RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS!!

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