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Ali
July 17, 2003, 08:54 PM
Try shooting barefoot.

It feels kinda funny and looks silly at the range.

I have gone over some home defense scenarios latley ,they include clearing my house/bedrooms at night, barefoot and in pajamas.

With 3 kids and a pregnant wife, it is something I must rehearse every-so- often.

I grew up never,and still, NEVER wear shoes in the house , so I am pretty good with my toes etc.

Try it next time you go to the range, it is a different feeling , and something you should be comftorable with...

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Hk Paul
July 17, 2003, 08:55 PM
Sounds strange but some fun things are strange! :)

pax
July 17, 2003, 09:10 PM
*blink*

I'm glad you wear pajamas at night.

This realism thing can be taken too far.

pax

You can't make up anything anymore. The world itself is satire. All you're doing is recording it. -- Art Buchwald

Brian Williams
July 17, 2003, 09:20 PM
I wear Birkenstocks alot including the range. It makes for interesting manuevers falling after tripping then draw weak hand and put 6 shots in a target. try laying down and shooting over your head upside down.

Remember alway check your back stop.

CGofMP
July 17, 2003, 09:24 PM
Realism....


This is a very good idea....

I am gonna look very funny in a 'hasty wrapped' bath towel when I do this... but yer right.. I gotta train like I live! Yes sir! Adds a new meaning to the idea of brass catcher.... particularly if you happen to be a wo....

Wait a minute... I could take this post too far... :banghead:

I wonder what the guys are gonna say when I show up in my bath towel though! Man that brass is gonna get HOT stuck between the towel and the tummy! :eek:


Charles
:scrutiny:

StuporDave
July 17, 2003, 10:26 PM
Barefoot at the range? Not me!

Went to get something out of my workshop/reloading area one night, barefoot. There was a .45acp case on the floor, sitting mouth up. Had to pull it out of my heel with pliers. And it hurt, too! :)

Dave

cool45auto
July 17, 2003, 10:30 PM
:eek:

10-Ring
July 18, 2003, 12:24 AM
Barefoot at home = YES
Barefoot at the range = NO!

I know my house inside & out and routinely go through it in the dark in my bare feet. I'm not about to do that at the range

PATH
July 18, 2003, 12:36 AM
Step on a piece of brass and you'll change your mind. Ouch!:D

Orthonym
July 18, 2003, 01:06 AM
don't serious people practice shooting with the weak hand in case the good one is disabled? Extend this concept a bit, imagine being horribly wounded in both arms. Think of the lady with no arms who made a good living in the 30s by (among other carny stunts) shooting a revolver with her feet. Skunky, have YOU trained for this?:) I think we should all practice foot shooting.

Majic
July 18, 2003, 01:54 AM
I hope I never shoot my barefoot. Or my foot in a shoe either.:neener:

swingset
July 18, 2003, 05:38 AM
I sleep naked, always have.

Now, if anyone thinks I'm taking this "scenario" to the range, they have another thing coming. Hot brass near my popo??? Not a chance bucko.

I'll rely on my imagination to supply the "what ifs".

Think about all the whacko "tactical scenarios" one could come up with defending home. What about getting caught sitting on toilet? Have to practice the "Throne shot", shooting with weak hand (as strong hand is needed to wipe). Or howabout jumping out of bed in, ummmmm, how should we say....an aroused state....with weapon drawn (by weapon I mean firearm)? Call this one "Hard to soft in .5 seconds!".

Makes for some frightening imagery, don't it?

Sorry for getting silly, but I didn't start it. :D

CWL
July 18, 2003, 06:45 AM
I wear eye & ear protection when I practice. -though I doubt that I will bother to put these on if I am in a SD situation.

Unless I was Billy Jack, I see no reason to remove my shoes at range.

Sometimes, you just cannot -nor do you want to- recreate everything at the range as you might do at home/on the streets.

45King
July 18, 2003, 08:00 AM
I'm one of those who seldom goes barefoot, even at home. I have a "clothes horse" by my bed, and I hang my pants and shirt over it every night, then put my shoes underneath. If something goes "bump" in the night, I can grab my pistol from the nightstand and hold it while getting dressed, then have a spare gun belt with holster and spare mags already in place on the nightstand that I can then buckle on. Takes longer to type this description than to do it. Don't be like "John McLaine" in the first Die Hard and get caught barefoot when you should be shod. Better to be shod than shot. ;)

Oh yeah, since I wear glasses, they are on the nightstand, along with a cell phone. They will go on my face as soon as I'm dressed, and the cell into my pocket.
I would advise getting some sort of safety glasses and keeping them handy, maybe with one of those "granny straps" that has an adjustment bead/ring in the back so that you can snug them to your face. Plaster/sheetrock dust, wood chips, etc., can ruin your day in a gunfight, 'cause you can't hit what you can't see.

OF
July 18, 2003, 08:54 AM
I shoot in my rubbah slippahs all the time. Until you've spent a whole day at the range blasting away in complete toe freedom, you haven't lived.

- Gabe

Ol' Badger
July 18, 2003, 09:16 AM
Good thing he doesn't pratice what he would do coming out of the shower!
:evil:

Nightfall
July 18, 2003, 09:27 AM
Unfortunately, the patrons of the range are protected from having to see me training as I sleep (nekkid)...

Amendment VIII

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

:D

mormonsniper
July 18, 2003, 09:28 AM
I grew up never,and still, NEVER wear shoes in the house , so I am pretty good with my toes etc.


So, do you use a one footed hold or a two footed weaver? Which toe is on the trigger? ... and from Rock45, he wants to know how you clear toe jams.

:rolleyes: :D

Nathaniel Firethorn
July 18, 2003, 10:41 AM
Wore Tevas to the range the last time I went. Had a piece of hot .22 brass fall on my foot. :eek: :fire: :cuss: :cuss: :cuss:

- pdmoderator

Owen
July 18, 2003, 10:48 AM
I used to shoot in my socks quite a bit.

I wore sneakers quite a bit, but sneakers are terible for shooting air pistol, bullseye, etc...they make your wobble much bigger, becuase of the squishy soles.

I would go to the range to practice, and realize I still had my sneakers on.

So I would take them off, and procede to shoot

I got a lot of strange looks. But then, at that range most people gave bullseye shooters strange looks.

Owen

4v50 Gary
July 18, 2003, 11:55 AM
As a child, I had a nightmare that I went to school barefoot. Had another dream that I went to school in my pajamas. Never did either and thankfully I'm out of school.

Now, as for shooting on the range barefoot, well, if it's a concrete range and it's 100 degrees outside, no thanks. If it's snow, no thanks. I'll wear shoes anyday.

Mike Irwin
July 18, 2003, 12:27 PM
And shooting barefoot on a crushed gravel surface outdoors during the day is like shooting barefoot indoors on wall-to-wall carpeting at night how?

Gus Dddysgrl
July 18, 2003, 01:39 PM
Barefoot...of course I will when I go again. I always go everywhere I can barefoot. I often get yelled at for not having shoes. Course wearing flip-flops makes it easy to put them on or take them off.

As for shooting as I would at home wouldn't it be easy to also dry fire at home? I mean if you really wanted to practice as you would in a home-defense situation don't you want to do it at home?

Thanks for the idea of being barefoot at the range I never thought of it.

Gus

blades67
July 18, 2003, 01:49 PM
he wants to know how you clear toe jams.



Now THAT'S funny!:D

Cosmoline
July 18, 2003, 01:51 PM
How else could I practice shooting my revolvers with my toes? You never know when you'll have your hands tied down, get a foot free, and be able to grab a revolver with your toes. Best to be prepared!

MicroBalrog
July 18, 2003, 04:16 PM
How else could I practice shooting my revolvers with my toes?

Did you ever try that with semi- or fully-automatic weapons?

manwithoutahome
July 18, 2003, 06:03 PM
Actually, even though the replies are going abit OT or should be held for any new joke forums coming up, Ali has some good points.

Shower, no shoes, nekkid, etc.. These all all things that could happen and we all know that we don't know what may or may not happen and when.

The same goes for ear and eye protection. I doubt you're going to put on your "ears" and shooting glasses when something happens or if you're in a place where you don't have them.

I haven't fired nekked but I have fired at the range (my backyard) with just shorts on. Sure, the brass may come back and hit you, making a burn mark, but isn't that what is going to happen if you just sleep in your undies at night? You have to know what your gun is going to do (where the brass will fall) and what it feels like to be hit with hot brass. No shoes are being worn at this time either.

I have fired three to ten rounds from any and all my carry pistols without "eyes" and "ears". Why, because they are loud, they do hinder your hearing after you fire, you have to know what it's going to be like if you have to go against multiple attackers. I'm sure they aren't going to wait until you dig out your "eyes" and "ears" before they allow you to shot them.

"eyes". I wear glasses. Glasses can be forgotton or lost during an encounter. Thankfully, I don't have that bad of eyesight (just bad enough that I can't drive without glasses) but I practice without my glasses. In the "heat of the moment" or phrased as "being scared ?????less", many factors that you didn't think about, or even laughed about, could come into play.

Ali, this is what I do:

Backyard range: Fire without glasses, in shorts (since I sleep only in undies), barefoot. Ranges 3ft, 7ft, 15ft, and 50ft. Once in awhile I fire three to one mag. of rounds without "ears" just to remind myself how loud the gun is, and to see how bad it affects my hearing in order to engage multiple encounters.

M

Sir Galahad
July 18, 2003, 10:40 PM
Where to begin....

1.) I would think most ranges would have safety rules regarding footwear.

2.) It only takes that one time to not wear safety glasses to live a lifetime of blindness. In a life-or-death situation, yes, you won't have time to don safety glasses. But would you also like people shooting at you while you practice to increase the realism? Re-creating every situtation is not training, it's actually somehwat didactic. Are you really going to shoot different barefoot? Are you really that finicky that you have to practice this? Are you going to shoot different if you ate certain foods prior? You gotta be kiddin... :rolleyes:

lycanthrope
July 18, 2003, 11:08 PM
I'd hate to be cut by an old piece of Blazer at the range while shooting barefoot, but doing a dry-fire"clearing" of one's house in your sleep gear (or lack thereof) should be almost mandatory in my opinion. If you stop to put clothes on when you shold be indexing on where the threat is coming from could very well cost you "all the marbles". Shoot first, dress later.

manwithoutahome
July 18, 2003, 11:18 PM
Sir Galahad, as a senior member, I understand that you have the right to flame us newbies.

I still believe in what I say and I stay by it.

M

dav
July 18, 2003, 11:42 PM
manwithoutahome,

Ease up. Sir G wasn't flaming you.

Yes, he took exception to what you said... but only to refute it. He did not impugn your lineage or character.

In my opinion, no simulation can prepare you for the real thing. Does that mean that simulation training is worthless? Of course not! But (again, IMHO) one should not kid oneself that practicing extremes makes you more prepared for a normal encounter.

The adrenaline of what one considers the real SHTF in your home scenario is going to overcome most inhibitions concerning dress. What I've been told is that in real encounters one rarely hears the gun go off at all. Focus is such that one doesn't hear some sounds.

If that is true, why practice in a way that is known to cause physical damage (loud noise damages ears, pure and simple).

We try to let anyone on this board believe whatever they want, but there is always room for dissenting opinion. Sometimes strongly held dissenting opinion. :D

pax
July 18, 2003, 11:42 PM
I have fired three to ten rounds from any and all my carry pistols without "eyes" and "ears.
If your ears bothered you after you shot, you DID damage your ears.

On purpose.

That's not real intelligent and it's not good training.

Frankly I think you'd do better off to protect your hearing so you can hear the bad guys sneaking up on you.

pax

I like to think of anything stupid I've done as a learning experience. -- PJ O'Rourke

sm
July 19, 2003, 01:32 AM
Barefoot...NO. I kinda banged myself up with sports, dirtbikes and wrecks, so I keep at least socks on. I've not had pajamas or a robe since I was at home, have slept since without anything. When married -we both slept that way. The deal was If a situation occurred, I provided "cover" while she dialed and dressed, then I'd get dresses while she provided cover. We kept guns and clothes on respective sides of bed.

Training...uh yeah, we did a "bathroom stage", "shower stage" too. My idea-why-based on a real life dealie so why not? We did one getting in or out of a car, kids in arms,ATM's...etc. I've shot in a coat and tie...think I'll wing it if I'm barefoot and or nude.

I believe in training for real life stuff, and I've run 50 straight sitting down while shooting skeet...great dove season practice :) and I just got out of the hospital with double knee surgery...had sock and shoes on tho' ;) ( caught and earful on that stunt tho...I "was" with my Dr. gimmee a break)

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