Sighting in an AK47


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Flfiremedic
November 14, 2007, 05:49 PM
I know for an AR you can sight at 25yrd and be on at 300 or 50 and 200. What about the AK though.

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Werewolf
November 14, 2007, 05:57 PM
50 works for me. But then I only shoot it out to a 100 yards or so.

Be advised that windage is set by moving the front sight left or right. It takes a special tool to move it.

Comparing the AK to the AR - apples and oranges. 7.62X39 is a relatively slow cartridge at 2200 to 2400 FPS while the 5.56 zips along at up to 3000+ FPS. In addition the 7.62X39 is usually a 124gr bullet and is considerably heavier than the 55 and even the 70+ gr bullet the AR fires so the trajectories will be considerably different.

www.handloads.com has a ballistic calculator you can use to see the differences between the two cartridges. In addition you can use it to pick the best zero range for your style of shooting.

Chipperman
November 14, 2007, 05:59 PM
You don't sight in an AK.

Diane Feinstein says you just "Spray and Pray".



:rolleyes:

briansmithwins
November 14, 2007, 06:35 PM
I sight in my AK (SLR106FR in 5.56 NATO) by setting the rear sight to 200m and shooting POA=POI at 50m. BSW

REOIV
November 14, 2007, 06:39 PM
I just used the sight tool from tapco with a laser bore sighter.

Waited till o'Dark thirty at night went out in back yard and pointed it at a wall about 100 yards off and just zeroed it on the dot.

Next time I went to the range I was making nice little 2-3 inch groups at 50 yards with a WASR 10 while standing up using wolf ammo.

PRazz
November 14, 2007, 08:46 PM
http://www.gunsnet.net/linx310/sightin.htm

dfariswheel
November 14, 2007, 09:22 PM
The Soviet method is to set the rear sight at 100 meters, and the sight-in target at 25 meters.

Sight in so the bullets are hitting exactly to point of aim.
With that, the rifle is sighted for any range.

After sighting in, if you set the sight on the Battle Sight setting (the lowest on the sight scale) you can hit a man-sized target at any range from 0 to 400 meters without changing the sight setting.

Personally, I use a target with a large "X" on it. I aim at the center of the "X" then shoot and adjust until the bullet are hitting the center of the "X".

SVT93
November 14, 2007, 10:06 PM
"You don't sight in an AK.

Diane Feinstein says you just "Spray and Pray"."

From the hip no less.

karlsgunbunker
November 14, 2007, 11:00 PM
"You don't sight in an AK.

Diane Feinstein says you just "Spray and Pray"."

From the hip no less.

And you know Diane wouldn't lie to us!

stinger 327
July 6, 2010, 05:30 PM
On the Norinco the rear sight has some kind of adjustment that starts from "100" and up. You can move this up and down. Is this for elevation?

I have also read that the front sight is the adjustment for elevation and windage via special tool like vise with key that has a key to turn the front post to make elevation adjustments by turning front post clockwise or counterclockwise.

For windage the vice type grip tool is used to move front sight side to side.

So which is the correct way to adjust the sights on a Norinco AK-47?:confused:

Maverick223
July 6, 2010, 06:07 PM
The elevation is field adjusted with the rear slide, often marked from a Cyrillic letter (looks like an upside down lower case "n", depending upon nation of manufacture) the battle sight setting (equal to 300M IIRC) is at the rear, and the front portion ranges from 100M to a hopelessly optimistic 800 meters. The fine adjustments to the elevation are made using a forked tool with a hole in the center, this slips atop the front sight post and allows you to rotate it up or down as necessary. Windage is adjusted using a tool akin to a miniature press or puller that pushes the assembly from side to side. Typically there are no provisions for field adjustment of windage.

:)

stinger 327
July 6, 2010, 06:22 PM
The elevation is field adjusted with the rear slide, often marked from a Cyrillic letter (looks like an upside down lower case "n", depending upon nation of manufacture) the battle sight setting (equal to 300M IIRC) is at the rear, and the front portion ranges from 100M to a hopelessly optimistic 800 meters. The fine adjustments to the elevation are made using a forked tool with a hole in the center, this slips atop the front sight post and allows you to rotate it up or down as necessary. Windage is adjusted using a tool akin to a miniature press or puller that pushes the assembly from side to side. Typically there are no provisions for field adjustment of windage.

:)
So then I'm correct in that the adjustment is all in the front sight with that special vice type tool with a key?
What is the number sight for 100 yards, 200 yards? Where should I leave it at?

lions
July 6, 2010, 06:29 PM
So which is the correct way to adjust the sights on a Norinco AK-47?

Basically, do as dfariswheel said. Just use the front sight to sight in the rifle, then the rear sight to adjust for range thereafter. The 100, 200, etc markings correspond to meters and the battle sight setting has been explained. I leave it set on the battle setting unless I want to shoot at a specific range.

briansmithwins
July 6, 2010, 06:30 PM
This manual has directions for sigting in AKs: http://www.box.net/shared/wfnjbu204s

It calls for setting the rear sight to '3' (300 meters) and measuring how high you strike at 100 meters.

This generic ballistic chart for 7.62x39 is set up with a 100 yard zero: https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AU9fZpC9S7gDZGNrOW5jaHNfODZjOXpja2NncQ&hl=en

Because of 7.62x39's carp ballistics, there really isn't any 'magik zero range' like 50 yards gives you in 5.56 NATO. I zero my red dot for 235 yards as I find it gives me the most flexability. I do have to hold under almost 5" at 100 yards though.

235 yard zero chart: https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AU9fZpC9S7gDZGNrOW5jaHNfODdkeGc4ZGJjYw&hl=en

BSW

Maverick223
July 6, 2010, 06:41 PM
So then I'm correct in that the adjustment is all in the front sight with that special vice type tool with a key?Yes WRT initial setup and zero, but field adjustments (for the range that you are shooting) is performed with the rear sight instead. You should properly zero the front sight and never touch it again unless you make changes to the rifle, ammunition, or the zero is "lost".

The slide on the rear sight is for making this adjustment. The letter at the bottom of the sight is the "battle zero", set for 300M IIRC it is sufficient for center mass hits on targets from 0-400M, the other settings (marked by a numeral) indicate the elevation setting in 100s of meters (1=100M, 2=200M, 3=300M...et cetera). This is the only adjustment necessary for shooting at the range (or battlefield). Furthermore, you should use this to aid in shots at various distances, as there is really no "set and forget" setting, unless you are seeking "minute of man" accuracy just leave it at the battle sight setting described above.

:)

RP88
July 6, 2010, 06:44 PM
I just used a bore laser and got it zeroed at 100 yards.

Then, I moved the sight leaf back to "0" and haven't touched it since :p

stinger 327
July 6, 2010, 07:00 PM
This manual has directions for sigting in AKs: http://www.box.net/shared/wfnjbu204s

It calls for setting the rear sight to '3' (300 meters) and measuring how high you strike at 100 meters.

This generic ballistic chart for 7.62x39 is set up with a 100 yard zero: https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AU9fZpC9S7gDZGNrOW5jaHNfODZjOXpja2NncQ&hl=en

Because of 7.62x39's carp ballistics, there really isn't any 'magik zero range' like 50 yards gives you in 5.56 NATO. I zero my red dot for 235 yards as I find it gives me the most flexability. I do have to hold under almost 5" at 100 yards though.

235 yard zero chart: https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AU9fZpC9S7gDZGNrOW5jaHNfODdkeGc4ZGJjYw&hl=en

BSW
This is great info thanks especially for the directions and instructions from the manual very difficult to see the instructions/locate on sighting in.

stinger 327
July 6, 2010, 07:04 PM
Yes WRT initial setup and zero, but field adjustments (for the range that you are shooting) is performed with the rear sight instead. You should properly zero the front sight and never touch it again unless you make changes to the rifle, ammunition, or the zero is "lost".

The slide on the rear sight is for making this adjustment. The letter at the bottom of the sight is the "battle zero", set for 300M IIRC it is sufficient for center mass hits on targets from 0-400M, the other settings (marked by a numeral) indicate the elevation setting in 100s of meters (1=100M, 2=200M, 3=300M...et cetera). This is the only adjustment necessary for shooting at the range (or battlefield). Furthermore, you should use this to aid in shots at various distances, as there is really no "set and forget" setting, unless you are seeking "minute of man" accuracy just leave it at the battle sight setting described above.

:)
The 0 setting makes the rear sight at its lowest point.

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