Shotgun shot, $30 a bag


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Javelin2235
November 15, 2007, 12:05 AM
I'm planning a venture to produce shotgun shot on a small scale.

I need to know how many individuals would buy it.

$70 per 50 pounds. $30 per 25lb bag plus $10 shipping USPS flat rate box. 6, 7, 7 1/2, and 8 shot available

Pass the word out...if enough people give me a positive response, I'll start the wheels turning.

-Jack

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SASS#23149
November 15, 2007, 03:39 AM
Since 2 25lb bags cost 60.00,why would I pay 70.00 for a fifty pound bag.

right now shot is 38.00 a bag here. which is a smideg less than you're shipped price, ,so I'll pass....for now.

Javelin2235
November 15, 2007, 10:40 AM
you'd pay $70 because of the shipping.

$30+$30+$10=$70

I can come down a bit on the price of a bag...how low do I need to go to make this venture work?

BridgeWalker
November 19, 2007, 10:40 AM
You'd have a taker here. That's as fine a price as I've seen, balancing out shipping vs driving costs and tax at a local supplier.

Got any now? Starting production soon? Sell me two or three bags of #8 in mid-January?

scrat
November 19, 2007, 11:49 AM
start making i will take a 25lb bag of the 7 1/2 shot. let me know when its ready

snuffy
November 19, 2007, 01:45 PM
Not that I'm interested, but, what will the lead composition be? IE, what alloy do you plan to use? Also keeping the alloy the same for every batch you produce will be critical. I can see a lot of problems with just making shot out of any available lead source, performance will be affected by what the shot is made of.

RyanM
November 19, 2007, 03:25 PM
I'd be in for some 000 if you ever make buckshot.

scrat
November 19, 2007, 03:42 PM
Javelin you need to post this on the shotgun reloading forum.

http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewforum.php?f=13&sid=bce97e74861805544a31f6a255a61834

Travis Two
November 19, 2007, 04:00 PM
Just out of curiosity, how do you plan on making quality shot on a small scale without a shot tower or a centrifgul caster? most shot I've seen from the littleton type makers is not very good and lead alloy is important to be consistent. Just wondering if you thought this all the way thru including any federal license you may need? Not looking to discourage you;just curious.

Javelin2235
November 19, 2007, 05:11 PM
to my knowlege, selling little tiny balls of lead is not illegal in any shape or form.

as far as lead consistency, a Lee Hardness tester will be used to check each batch and alloy to a steady hardness.

I do plan to use a littleton, and I've read a LOT about running one. shot roundness is a factor of the coolant used and keeping it at the correct temperature. I've factored that into my setup and costs. After a bit of experimentation and working from the works of others will allow me to make quality shot. Quality control will take care of the rest.

-Jack

Travis Two
November 19, 2007, 05:53 PM
If you manufacture lead shot for sale I'm pretty sure you'll need a class 06 FFL.

yammerschooner
November 19, 2007, 06:37 PM
Travis Two is right. You need a type 06, even for components production. As long as you aren't assembling you will not need to pay the excise tax. It took about two months from ap into the mail to license for me to get mine.

My notes from the process say the ATF's National Licensing Center can be reached at 703-455-7801 for required forms. If you would like to contact your local ATF office for verification of all I have written (you should), the numbers can be found at the following link:

http://www.atf.gov/contact/field.htm

Make sure you speak to a Industry Operations Agent as opposed to a Field Agent. The field agent at my local office was unfamiliar with the exact regulations on component manufacture, and was only able to tell me that "it isn't something currently enforced." The Industry Operations Agent will be able to answer all of your questions satisfactorily, and without doubt. The one I talked to said to always make note of who you talked to, at what time, and what the conversation entailed, in case there were issues in the future.

Unfortunately, the above doesn't mean it won't be enforced next week, or isn't enforced this week at your location.

Once you get in touch with them, it is my experience that you will find them to be very professional and courteous. Getting that first return call may take a little while though.

Good luck.

scrat
November 20, 2007, 12:23 AM
you dont need a shot tower anymore to make shot. there is a machine called the little dripper. magma enginerring makes it. it cost 375.00 though

scrat
November 20, 2007, 12:27 AM
yammer other than filling out forms what did you have to do to get a type 6

trickyasafox
November 20, 2007, 01:14 AM
you may also need a small business license- for my neck of the woods though your price would be the best by a good few dollars.

yammerschooner
November 20, 2007, 06:51 PM
Scrat,
Other than the paperwork/fngerprint/send them a mug shot/EPA information, that was initially required, I needed to do the following:

Have business hours (12-6 on Saturdays) Considering I am manufacturing, and the selling takes place when shooting/ or visiting family or friends, this can be a bit inconvenient.

I needed to have a shop. This was the biggest hassle because my residence was zoned residential. I ended up setting up my shop at the family farm out in the country.

For me, zoning caused the biggest issues. Had my residence been outside of the city I would not have had to move all of the equipment out of the garage and to a bonifide shop.

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