[firestar]

Is that because these are older guns and the people that carry them are just hanging on to what they know or is it that they are more experienced and just naturally gravitate towards these guns because they are some of the best?

I find that more and more, I am becoming a revolver guy, I still don't go crazy over the 1911 or the .45acp even though i have owned several. Am I doomed to become an old fart with a S&W revolver and 1911 .45acp?:D I have never met an older, experienced shooter that did not respect the 1911 or the great revolvers from S&W, Colt and Ruger.

I used to hate revolvers and blue steel. I used to think that someday all these old guns will be replaced by SS autos, now I fear that day. What is worse is the plasitc craze that has been so popular as of late. I have owned a few plastic guns and I really can't stand them. Can it be that these old shooters are just more advanced than the rest of us that still think that hi-cap semi-autos are the way to go?:D

[faustulus]

Hokey relgions (cult of 1911) and acient weapons (revolver) are no match for a good blaster (Sig) at you side kid. :)

Dons flame suit and runs for cover.

[glockten]

Is that because these are older guns and the people that carry them are just hanging on to what they know or is it that they are more experienced and just naturally gravitate towards these guns because they are some of the best?

Yes.

Can it be that these old shooters are just more advanced than the rest of us that still think that hi-cap semi-autos are the way to go?

And then there are high-cap 1911s, for those of us that are even further advanced (or out there, if you prefer). :D

[SnWnMe]

I'm 37... is that considered old?

High caps are for cops or folks who plan on missing alot :neener:

You know? Shoot 14 rounds, if problem is not solved yet, use 15th round on self
;)

[Hal]

I notice that most <snip> 1911 guys are older. Ok, here's my 51 year old take on it.
- house is paid off - - .
- kids are grown and out on their own - -
- wife an I both work - -
- both of us are at the high point of our respective earnings since we've been married - -

Now, considering all that,,,,yep,,,that's what allows me to show an interest in a $200.00 gun that needs $800.00 worth of work to make it work
:D:D
(just<halfway>kidding)

[Lone_Gunman]

Who would you rather have shoot at you???

Or another way to ask, who usually shoots worse at the range?

Old guy with 1911... or young tactical guy with a black wonderpistol?

[Sean Smith]

Is 30 older? :neener:

[SapperLeader]

I just bought my first 1911, and im shopping for my first revolver, and I have several polymer guns(XD series). Im only 23, does this fit the older guy category? I have arthritus if that helps?

[Zach S]

I'll be 22 soon, and my favorites are my 1911s. I'm thinking about trading my Ruger in on another.

SnWnMe, I happen to like my widebody 1911, and I'm a pretty good shot. I do have days where I couldnt shoot myself if I wanted to though, lol.

//edit: You know, I joke a lot about being 22 and having a 50yo back, does that put me in the "old" catagory?

[WT]

We old folks don't need hi-caps. We've learned to hit our intended targets.

[TallPine]

Eh ...? What was that you said, sonny?

[Sarge]

"Can it be that these old shooters are just more advanced than the rest of us that still think that hi-cap semi-autos are the way to go?"

Well Sonny, it's like this. I'm 47 this fall, and have been a serious handgunner since I was 14. Yes, 14. That'd probably be some kind of federal felony today. I took proficiency seriously from the outset, and determined to excel at it.

I've been carrying a gun, usually a 1911, in harm's way since I was 20. For about 10 of those years I tried to teach other cops to shoot with varying degrees of success. I have seen the transition from revolvers to D/A autos to so-called D/A only, including the poly-poppers. I also got to get an up-close look at the results of a number of interpersonal exchanges of gunfire.

The good thing is that handguns and ammunition have gotten more reliable and effective overall.

The bad thing is that even the best handguns and ammo are still pretty sorry at facilitating the elusive "one shot stop" unless you land them in precisely the right spot.

(You have to be able to shoot well under pressure to do this.)

The scary thing is that we are now lousier shots overall that we were in the revolver days.

I like revolvers, because they are super-quick into action. In .357 calibers & up they hit hard and penetrate deep. When everything else is going to hell in a handbasket, they will work. I love my Sig 220 for those same reasons.
I have had a 1911 or two that qualified under those same criteria.

Pick a handgun that is reliable, accurate, and hits hard. Load it with the best ammunition you can get. Learn to shoot it with safety precision FIRST, and then start working on speed. Hits are what you need, from a gun that works every time. Whether it's a 1911 or a revolver or a Glock doesn't matter at all.

[sm]

I'm 48 So I don't know what that means. :scrutiny:

Age 6 I shot my first centerfire handgun -Singer GM 1911
I guess a year or two later I shot a K frame

I have stuck with these ever since. They have history because they work, always have and continue to do so.

"Faster horses, younger women, older whiskey and more money"

[mec]

Sarge says it well. Some of the old phart generations affection for revolvers and 1911s is because we grew up with them. This might provide some insight into the psyche of the old phart generation:
http://www.milesfortis.com/mcump/mc11.htm

[ruger357]

44, and love my 1911 and revolvers.:D

[foghornl]

I have a real soft spot in my heart (or is it on my head:confused: ) for the single action revo. Favorite 'fun gun' is a short-barrel 'Sheriff's Model" Vaquero in .357Mag.

That being said, when the chips are REALLY down, I'll reach for the 1911-A1.


p.s. I am 50+ years old. Does that qualify me for elderly flatulence status ? ? ?

[Snowdog]

I've been around long enough to know that the 1911 is a sound and serious handgun that will serve a man his entire life. Though I won't be conceited and claim the 1911 to be the ultimate combat handgun, as questions such as these never yield answers, I will say that one can do no better than a 1911 with proficiency to use it.


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid41/p9e75c059969f9dd20249202220f072c6/fcfb6255.jpg

[madhatta]

I am 31 and right now if I HAD to sell everything except 2 guns: I would keep a 1911 and .... it would be a toss-up between my python and a
3-screw Ruger SA.
I don't quite know what it is- but I find myself pulling further away from autos and am increasingly drawn to single actions...

[Old Fuff]

Well during the last 50-plus years I’ve seen (and done) a lot of shooting. I’ve scrutinized most everything on the market and used a lot of them. Unlike a lot of younger guys I don’t expect get into a gunfight with a half-dozen bad guys every other night. Not that a stray mugger might not come along, but I can handle that even during my “advanced years.”

In my misspent youth I got involved in bullseye shooting, which at the time was the only handgun game around. To get anywhere one has to learn the principals of good marksmanship and practice them. It’s an old fashion concept called “hit exactly and precisely where you intend too.” In past years it was also considered a good skill to have if the target might shoot back.

Today I read that a group the size of a basketball at ten paces is acceptable “practical accuracy,” especially with a snub-nosed revolver. In ancient times it was not unknown to have a shooter put his shots into the “K” zone of an FBI silhouette target at 100 yards with a similar handgun.

Besides, I like revolvers because (1) they are usually more accurate out-of-the-box then run-of-the-mill pistols, and (2) I don’t have to bend over to pick up my brass. Happily they’re seems to be a wide range of revolvers on the used market that can be had for a fraction of what the more popular pistols cost. We old folks tend to be tight with a dollar, if you know what I mean …

John Browning’s .45 pistol is favored by this “Old Fuff” because it is a well proven design and very reliable if it isn’t messed up with aftermarket “improvements.” One of its strong points is the barrel bushing. Most recent makes and models simply support the barrel with a hole through the front of the slide, and a very generous one at that. The barrel bushing on the other hand can be fitted to the slide on one hand, and to the barrel on the other. The result is better accuracy, but when basketball-sized groups are O.K. I suppose this point is moot. The current idea is to see if one can’t make up for a lack of accuracy by putting more bullet holes inside of the bigger circle. (Don’t hit it, hose it!).

But as they say, “you can’t teach an old dog new tricks.”

Old age gets to you, ya’ know.

[seeker_two]

Hokey relgions (cult of 1911) and acient weapons (revolver) are no match for a good blaster (Sig) at you side kid.

Interesting quote from a movie character who packed a Mauser C96 designed 15 years BEFORE then 1911...:neener:

There are a lot of guns that do SOME things better than a well-made 1911 (DA trigger, magazine capacity, lighter weight, etc.), but there's no autopistol that does EVERYTHING better than a well-made 1911...:cool:

And there's no handgun PERIOD that is balanced to do EVERYTHING a handgun could be called to do better than a good K- or N-frame revolver....:cool:

Can it be that these old shooters are just more advanced than the rest of us that still think that hi-cap semi-autos are the way to go?

Yep...:D

[Boiler_G]

My first gun was a Colt 1991A1 .45 ACP! I am now 22 (1 year later) and it is still my favorite gun. It is blue with the new roll mark. Classic look along witht the history/millitary legend made it the obvious choice for me. I hadn't even shot a .45 before and still bought it. I was all set on getting a Glock 19, but figured that I would eventually get a 1911, so I just went with it. I started shooting S&W 41's, and Ruger MKII at my College pistol club and can still shoot there, that is why I didn't buy a .22 for my first. I guess I just saw the light early! :D

Edit: Forgot to comment on the Revolver part! By the way, my next Colt purchase will be a SAA in .45 Colt Nickle with ivory grips and a 4 3/4" bbl :evil: There is just something about holding a Colt! I need to pay off my student loans before that purchase though ;)

[clubsoda22]

I'm a college student who grew up with my dads 1911. I love that gun. Then again, i'm an old guy at heart, but i'malso very diverse in my tastes. Call it practical. I realize that a polymer 9 is much better on your hip all day than a 1911, which despite being awesome, is big and heavy.

[themic]

i think a large amount of what-guns-you-like is also looks. not so much in the stylings themselves, but in what the looks convey to you. revolver and 1911s convey real blue steel strength, simpler designs, rugged construction, tradition. whereas some people think, when looking at the same thing: heavy, bulky, old.

the same thing happens with shotguns and rifles. There are AR-15s, and there are Remmy 700s with wood stocks. There are souped up 870s, and traditional over-unders.

you see things in terms of what you are looking for.

it just so happens that lots of old people have no taste :p :neener:

just kidding. me? remington 700s, trap shotguns, a 1991, and one weirdly heavy RAP 401. age? 25. it's what i've always liked, partly because i got into shooting through 22 bolt action rifles, and trap shooting.

[10-Ring]

One of the guys I shoot with is 20-something and most of his guns are revolvers w/ a few 1911's mixed into the mix. He inherited most of his collection & figures that his dad knew what he was doing when he chose these guns for his collection.

[Ala Dan]

Greeting's Guys and Gals-

At 56 years old~

I don't know which group I fall into? But as far as
revolver geeks go, I think its a drawn conclusion
that fewer things can go wrong with a good ole'
revolver.:D Not too say that all self-loaders are
bad,:uhoh: but most of the time if you have
a malfunction with a revolver, just pull the trigger
again and keep on a truck'in. With that said, I still
have faith in some quality self-loaders as well!:rolleyes:

But contrary to popular belief, I tend to use both
on a large scale basis.

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

[Gary A]

"Am I doomed to become an old fart with a S&W revolver and 1911 .45acp?"

One can only hope. The alternative to becoming an old fart (regardless of how armed) is considerably less attractive, at least to me.

[MoNsTeR]

I'm a "revolver and 1911" guy and I'm 22.
Most young shooters seem too hung up on tactical plastic to learn what a first-rate trigger pull feels like, and then they wonder why they're all over the paper! :neener:

[444]

I am a big fan of the 1911. I got my first one when I was in my very early 20s. I do admit that part of the reason I stick with the 1911 is that it is what I have been shooting all these years. The muscle memory is there. I operate the controls with no conscious thought. And, the 1911 is a very good handgun. It works well and I don't see any real good reason to change. I have tried the Glock 21, I own a Glock 17, I have owned a Sig 220, I own a few double actions. I personally just don't see anything that is so significantly better that I would re-train myself. If you think about it, every model has it's advantages and disadvantages. Everything is a trade off. You see a new design and it offers feature X that seems better than what you have now, BUT you have to give up features Y and Z to get it. The older I get, the more I realize this and decided that it is far better to become really good with the design you are comfortable with and forget worrying about the latest thing out. Most firearms made by reputable manufacturers do the job well. Buy whatever pulls your chain, get some quality instruction right from the beginning, practice a lot, and shoot in competition to test your skills against others so you have some basis to judge your progress.
The gun is only a tool, you are the weapon.

[Mike Irwin]

I'm 38, but I became a revolver devotee in my early 20s.

[Delmar]

Gosh blamed whipper-snappers!:D
Why, back in the good old days, we never had all this high thumbin, optical sightin, compinsatin barrelled, melted framed plastic fantastic hockey pucks!
Too heavy? Builds character!
Sharp edges? We wore them edges down with our hide!
Titanium? Whats THAT?

Ain't technology wonderful?

[sig970]

Wow, I'm ready for the old folks home at 37

[DDGator]

I am 34. I grew up shooting revolvers (and a Ruger Mark II). I got away from shooting during college when money was tight. When I came back I wanted a Wonder9 and a .40 and a compact .45. But, now that all is said and done -- I am definitely coming back to wheelguns.

I shoots IPSC and am starting IDPA and plan to use a revolver. I always respect the real shooters who can use a 6-gun to outscore some guy weilding the latest Glock.

[Skunkabilly]

Who would you rather have shoot at you???
Or another way to ask, who usually shoots worse at the range?
Old guy with 1911... or young tactical guy with a black wonderpistol?

I don't think marksmanship has much to do with age and gun selection.

Seen young guys with black guns shoot well and older guys with 1911s and revolvers shoot crappy, and verse vica....

And that DJJ mofo is pretty deadly good with his stock SA MilSpec and Marlin lever gun :eek:

[MJRW]

I think you aren't entirely off base. I think them old fellers get confused by new fangled polymers. And they forget how many rounds they've shot half way through the magazine. Ya know, senior moments. However, most of the young'uns are too frail and weak to heft a mighty revolver let alone shoot it. And that 1911? Kids are lazy these days and impatient, too much to do on an 1911. Grip safety, thumb safety, line up sights, and then after ALL THAT, you still have to pull the trigger. And you only get to shoot 7 rounds before you have to reload! However, when you reach handgun enlightment, as my own humble self has, you find peace with all (reliable) handguns. I sometimes sit in green fields with flower petals floating around me surrounded by various handguns while meditating. Sometimes the winged spirit of John Browning will come and sit on my shoulder. Other times its Sam Colt.

[valnar]

I have several reasons I can state.

1) Good revolvers and 1911's are deadly accurate. I consider most of them target accurate. Many modern semi-autos are "combat" accurate, which just means it will get in the ballpark.

2) 1911's are customizable. Just like a good muscle car of the Chevy Camaro and Ford Mustang era, people love to tweak their 1911's to make them their own. It's an open design that allows for many improvements and changes. While an HK USP or SIG P220 are good guns, they are just that. Wanna change them? OK, how about a trigger job and refinish. 'Not much else. What other parts can be changed? (Maybe mount a scope.) To use a computer analogy, they are not "open standards."

3) Revolvers are very collectable, especially S&W and Colt. This adds to their desire. Many different shapes, sizes, special runs, variations, engraved editions, barrel lengths, etc. Some people (like me) can live on one or two 9mm guns and be happy. What do I need more for? But I can't get enough revolvers in my stable! 'Too many variations.

4) From a pure aesthetic standpoint, revolvers and 1911's are beautiful. Show me any other design that is as nice on the eyes. That, along with all the custom and variations, makes them more collectable.

OK, so most of those reasons are for collecting rather than carrying/shooting them. But they are also fun to shoot! I'd rather shoot my revolvers than any semi-auto.

-Robert

[bountyhunter]

Two cave men were arguing about which of them had invented dirt. One guy pulled his revolver but the other guy shot him with his 1911.

[sensei]

57 years old.

Most of my generation were in the military. Thats what a lot of us learned to shoot pistols with.

sensei

[Andrew Wyatt]

I'm 20. I prefer 1911s to any other autopistol, because they fit me. nothing else that i've tried does.

[NapAttack]

One of the things you learn from age and not necessarily wisdom is that newer does not mean better. New and improved means the company that built it found a cheaper way to make it.

Plus, I think it's a desire to simplify your life. When there are so many choices available it actually becomes a problem. Walk into almost any gunshop in the US and you're likely to find parts and ammo for your 1911 or S&W revolver. Your new ubertactical tupperware, unlikely.

When I get home at night I want the same lady I've been married to for 15 years there, she knows my ways and I know hers. I'm not having to constantly adjust and change my ways for someone new. Same way with my pistols. I pick up my 1911 or my S&W revolver I've had for 20+ years and it's comfortable and familiar, I don't have to try to adjust to a new safety or trigger or grip.

If I want to play with something new I play with my kids' or grandkids' toys but when it's time to get serious I go home to Mama. When it's time to get serious, I want my 1911 or S&W revolver close to hand. They're comfortable, familiar and I know I can count on them in a pinch.

[Dave Markowitz]

Hmmm. I'm 35 and my favorite handgun is my S&W Model 15 Combat Masterpiece.

:scrutiny:

[yesterdaysyouth]

i knew i was feeling older than everyone says i am....

they say 23... i say 43....

go figure :p


i really don't like 1911's much but i love a shiny old S&W revolver.... nickle or stainless...

only problem is there a sig on my hip, i wouldn't want to scratch one of my revolvers, then i would cry...... :scrutiny:

[Gunner45]

I was 25 when I bought my 1911. Oddly enough, it was three days before I got married, when my money was still just mine. :)

Most of my friends went the black and plastic way, but have now grown up and got a 1911. :) (sorry I just had to say that)

Gunner45

[Archie]

I notice that most revolver and 1911 guys are older. Is that because these are older guns and the people that carry them are just hanging on to what they know or is it that they are more experienced and just naturally gravitate towards these guns because they are some of the best?
All of the above. That is what we know and yes, they are superior.

I find that more and more, I am becoming a revolver guy, I still don't go crazy over the 1911 or the .45acp even though i have owned several.Half a loaf is better than none. You're getting there.
Am I doomed to become an old fart with a S&W revolver and 1911 .45acp?Only if you're lucky. I have never met an older, experienced shooter that did not respect the 1911 or the great revolvers from S&W, Colt and Ruger.?Good taste and appreciation of quality comes with experience. You already understand that flashy and shiney doesn't mean functionally superior.

I used to hate revolvers and blue steel. I used to think that someday all these old guns will be replaced by SS autos, now I fear that day. What is worse is the plasitc craze that has been so popular as of late. I have owned a few plastic guns and I really can't stand them. Can it be that these old shooters are just more advanced than the rest of us that still think that hi-cap semi-autos are the way to go??Are you talking about the people or the guns? If you mean the people, it's just us old coots have had time to play with stuff and work out the kinks. If you mean the guns, most of those guns were designed by men who understood the concept of shooting and fighting. That makes a big difference.

[J Miller]

I notice that most revolver and 1911 guys are older.

With age comes wisdom. Do not fight it my son.

[JCM298]

I started with revolvers with one agency but switched to a 1911 in the Army,and back to revolvers with my second department, and revolvers for the first 20 years with my third department, but had to switch to a Sig in`85 and carried it for my last 5 years.

After retiring, I went to a forth department and carried either a Python, the Sig, or a J-frame. Now, I'm a civilian with a fifth department and I'm not allowed to carry any gun while working.

Both revolvers and autos have served my needs since `61. Good quality guns and practice have made me comfortable with both types of guns.

John

[firestar]

Are you talking about the people or the guns? If you mean the people, it's just us old coots have had time to play with stuff and work out the kinks. If you mean the guns, most of those guns were designed by men who understood the concept of shooting and fighting. That makes a big difference.

I was talking about the people but I guess it could have been taken to mean the guns.:D

I like the 1911 and the .45 but I am not crazy about them like some are. I had a SIG 220 in .45acp that was great but didn't fit my trigger finger (too long of a reach) and I have a Star B in 9mm that I really love, I just haven't found a 1911 in .45 that I fell in love with yet.

I am begining to understand what I don't like about some 1911s. Most new 1911s come with flat mainspring housings but my Star B has an older, rounded one that feels so much better to me. Also the old 1911s and clones like the Star don't seem to have as many sharp edges. I knew a guy that had his dad's old 1911 from Korea. He showed it to me and I really liked the way it felt. It was probably made during WWII but it felt better in my hand than any new Kimber has. Maybe one of these is lurking in my future but the cost is high, maybe I will give a modern 1911A1 clone a try.

I hope I don't become a cliche.:D I can just see it, I will be 65 with with a bunch of P&R S&W revolvers and some WWII 1911 .45s.:D There are worse things I guess, I could be 65 and not yet understand that my plastic fantastic hi-cap semi-auto isn't really the bee's knees.:D No offense you Glock heads.:neener:

[Parker Dean]

Originally posted by firestarI used to hate revolvers and blue steel. I used to think that someday all these old guns will be replaced by SS autos,

That about covers it. The perception of "old tech" and looks. Most of the time the "kids" want that uber-tactical look with the square edges, flat black finish, light rails, and can't forget the must-have, the laser sight. Plastic, errr excuse me, POLYMER frames are just so high-tech as to be positively orgasmic.

And these old guns designed by dead white guys? Don't even go there...


now I fear that day. What is worse is the plasitc craze that has been so popular as of late. I have owned a few plastic guns and I really can't stand them. Can it be that these old shooters are just more advanced than the rest of us that still think that hi-cap semi-autos are the way to go?

What I suspect happens is that when a person learns how guns work and what is actually important to proficiency their idea of what makes a good fiream choice changes. Plus a healthy dose of been-there-done-that. If you buy all the plastic types when you're young and think they look cool there are only so many other possibilities to try when you're older.

So yes, it is a function of age :D

[Majic]

I like blue steel and wood or bone. I can tolerate SS, but polymers/plastics/tupperware or whatever just ain't got it for me. The spaceage metals would be great if I was going in space. I can't see having a gun so light for carrying that it's painful shooting. Shooting is suppose to be fun with me. If it ain't fun to shoot, I ain't got no use for it.
What I have seen in my 47 years of living on this lil ball in space is that all the newfangled handguns on the market today is just the same old designs being carried in a different bag.

[Standing Wolf]

When I was a young buck, I figured the old timers knew more than I did, so I asked lots of questions, did what they did, and tried to learn from their mistakes. They were mostly right in most ways most of the time.

[jonny wong]

I am 27, I own a TRS .45 and a BHP 9mm. Never own anything else in my life, no need to.:neener:

[caz223]

I believe concessions can be made to make technology work with conventional designs, and make them more suited for the task at hand.
For instance the 10mm 1911 DW razorback.
Match grade innards, an extra shot in the mag, more power, and still the steel frame of ol' slabsides.
9mm 1911s are something I believe I'll never own, but .38 super, maybe.
A star PD is usable in some gaming stages, and so is a 229 .40 loaded a little hot, with hi-cap 226 mags.
Hi-powers and CZs are also suitable for old fellers who want to spend a little less of their retirement $$$ at the range.

[Rob96]

I am certainly not old. I just think that after years of shooting and buying and trading, we come to realize that the revolver and 1911 has what is needed in a defensive sidearm. I am also going to throw Glock into the mix because of its slimness in the 9mm and 40 cal models. But also because of the single type of trigger pull. Face it, that is one thing common between the 1911, Revolver and Glock. It is also something we emntion in other threads when we post what we think are "pros" for these guns. As of right now I don't have any handguns that require a transition in trigger pull, two 357 magnums, a 1911 and a Glock. After 18 yrs I finally figured out what I like.:banghead:

[22luvr]

Am I the only guy over 50 who has never owned a 1911 or plan to? :evil:

Revolvers? Ah yes, I am a die-hard revolver fan.

I've also drifted into the forbidden "dark-side" of polymer, Titanium, and other fanciful fads ("faster and lighter?")

I'm now reversing the err of my ways and returning to the straight path of Steel, wood, and heavy slugs! :fire:

Seriously though, it's been fun poking into this and that along the way and I'll stick to my byline in that I still like just about anything that shoots a projectile. :D

[only1asterisk]

Although there have been improvements in the designs over time, The basic design of handguns has changed little in almost 100 years. That fact alone keeps these designs valid. If you had handed Alvin York a USP 45, he'd have understood instantly (although he may have been amazed). The 1911 edures for many reasons, not the least of which is that it is one one the easiest pistols to shoot quickly and effectively. It is a legend. It may not live up to it's own press, but few things do.
The accuracy and power of revolvers speaks for itself. I never feel outgunned with a .357.

You can get the original, a connection to the past that still performs with (or in some cases out performs) contemporary models. Try that with anything else.


David

[Ky Larry]

I'm 49 and I like anything that shots well(Most guns shoot better than my ablity to shoot them). I have revolvers (S&W,Colt) and auto's (Kimber,CZ,Ruger,Beretta,S&W) in various calibers. They all shoot well or they go to a new home.I can afford about any gun I want and I shoot all mine. I resent you young punks calling me old. I have to go now. It's time for me to take my Geretol and change my Depends. You kids go play in your own yard. :fire:

[Stickjockey]

:cuss: 34 IS NOT OLD!!!!! :cuss:


MJRW-
Green fields, surrounded by hand guns, with JMB's ghost on your shoulder? What are you smoking and why aren't you sharing?





:D

[SodaPop]

TFL link (http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/search.php?action=showresults&searchid=58202&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending)


That's what I thought at first.

[Blueduck]

Some guys think a revolver will make them a "Old curmogeon (sp?)" who can shoot like Bill Jordon.

Others think getting the newest whiz bang tactical auto will make them shoot like a SEAL Team six member.

Both are wrong ;)

[Soap]

I'm a 1911 guy who is 21 years old.

[Skunkabilly]

I'm a 1911 guy who is 21 years old.

21 years old...awwww....how cuuuuuuuute!!! :D

[B27]

Older than what?

[firestar]

Just to clear things up a bit, I am not fully converted to either revolvers or 1911s. I like revolvers more and more but my Beretta 92FS will stay on my night stand for the forseeable future. Also my pocket gun is a Beretta 21A Bobcat.

Once I find the right light weight snubbie, it will become my carry gun but it is going to be Titanium or SS and aluminun and it will probably have hard rubber grips like the stock Uncle Mikes that they come with, I like those.

I wouldn't use one of my .357s for a house gun or a carry gun because they are too big, too slow to reload, don't hold enough ammo, are hard to shoot fast because of the recoil, are hard to hit with because of the DA only trigger but I still like them.

[Soap]

Skunk,

I'm gonna punch you in da eye foo!

[jon1481]

" It's hard to beat a 38. " I was told that a long time back, I still agree with that. With that said, it's harder to beat a 45 acp. A revolver is great in it's function as is a good 1911. That's my .02 cents. Jon

[Dr.Rob]

My first centerfire handgun was a Colt Commander, my most recent a Colt Magnum Carry revolver.

I'm only 35.

[Pumpkinheaver]

I'm only 29 and I love the 1911. Does that make me an old guy now?

[Iggy]

I started shooting a revolver 52 years ago.. Went into LE before Autos became the rage.. carried a N frame 41 mag. on duty for 20 years. I learned a few tricks from Bill Jordan.. I guess that gives you some inkling of how old I am.

I've been out of LE for many years. I've carried a gummint model off duty and CCW for 40 years.

There may be better but I have seen the elephant with the ones I have and do carry, and they got me through some serious social encounters and I'm still kicking.. I'll just stick with what I trust.

Am I smarter than the younger generation?? Hell no!! I'm like Napattack. I found something I am comfortable with and know how to make it work.

That's good enough for me!!

:)

[bad_dad_brad]

Well since everyone else is adding their two cents here is my old guy opinion:

I am 50 and although I have had long guns all my life, I am but a handgun newbie. I bought my first handgun and last revolver in 1995, a SP101 .38 3 inch barrel. Although I love that gun, all my other handguns have been autoloaders. That said I will get a S&W 638 one of these days, and a large bore Ruger in the near future. I think revolvers are great, but I do believe that autoloaders, over all, are better carry weapons - better tools.

Amongst autoloaders, I shy away from SA because I don't think they are appropriate for carry - great for target, but not for carry. So, I have become a fan of modern DAO pistols like Glocks and Kahrs. They are slim, carry high capacity mags for their size, and I like the triggers.

So think of me as an enlightened youngster when it comes to handguns. For everyday use, I prefer modern DAO autoloaders but I have an affection for snubby and big bore revolvers. M1911s have no appeal at all for me. BHPs are pretty but that is about it, and they are way to expensive. The only exception SA that I like is my little Jetfire, but I don't take her seriously after replacing her functionality with a P32.

I suppose someday I will have a M1911 in my collection, mill spec most likely, just to say - I have one.

[Rob96]

Not to start anything brad, but why do you think a Glock is appropriate for carry but a 1911 isn't? I carry both so don't feel that I took this as an insult or anything, just curious.

[wingman]

Old, proud 1911 lover, The 1911 is a work of art, I believe anyone of any age
who loves shooting should own one....Does that mean it is the best at all
jobs, no, but the enjoyment of shooting an accurate 45 1911 at 25 yards,
well like a "hole in one".:D

[tobeat1]

I am not old (only 29) but I have owned quite a few pistols. I have been carrying ever since I turned 21 and actually compete with what I carry. You will learn real fast what works with you shooting style and what does not. I think revolvers and 1911s have one thing in common- the same trigger pull for each shot - (assuming you are not cocking the revolver)- 1911s have the best trigger out of all the pistols I have owned (everything from Glocks, Sigs, Berettas, Smith and Wessons, etc) and are the easiest to hit well with. I dont really think that mechanical accuracy is what makes the pistol. Its practical accuracy. The 1911 delivers that in spades.

[bad_dad_brad]

Rob96:

It is that SA thing that makes me leary of M1911's for carry. I realize they have a grip safety, and a slide safety, but when all of that is off the M1911's trigger usually breaks pretty quick. For me, the Glock trigger is more effective in that role - especially with the New York style take up.

Finally, carrying cocked and locked with an M1911 has traditionaly been a law suit or conviction waiting to happen if you do have to shoot someone in self-defense. Most self-defense experts would suggest that you do not carry an M1911 for that reason. LEO's have pretty much stopped carrying M1911's. I just read an article about that somewhere.

I remember several years ago in the Quad Cities seeing an older detective take his jacket off in a local restaurant, exposing his shoulder rigged .45, cocked and locked. For some reason it bothered me. I know that is silly, but it did nevertheless.

Personally, if you know what you are doing, it does not matter what you are carrying, but the prosecutor does not always see it that way.

[Ian11]

On the contrary, I think 1911 fans have the broadest demographic of all the handguns out there. Not only do you have fans that picked it up over the years but young turks who see and read about Spec-Ops Units, in the movies, and what not. At gunstores I see just as many young guys who were drooling over laser attached H&K USP's drooling over 1911's with a laser attachment. ;)

Revolvers on the other hand are unglamourous, low tech in comparison, and the erroneous percetion they're slower to shoot. Although I often see some young guy about to wet his pants when he receives his brand new Ruger .454 Casull and proudly states thats his home defense gun. :rolleyes::uhoh:

[Rob96]

Brad, while I don't agree with your opinion, I do respect it. I feel just the opposite. I think 1911's are going to be finding their way back into more police holsters. Seatle just went with the Kimber, LAPD SWAT also went Kimber. Whitehall PD here in PA have been carrying Colts for a few years now. Retired police chief that I know prefers 1911's to other style pistols for carry. And I think that if you check it out , you will find more accidental and negligent discharges with Glocks. But it all boils down to the safety that is between the persons ears.

[RustyHammer]

:D

[jem375]

and smarter.......

[iamkris]

...I like

1911s (including ParaOrds)
CZs
PPKs
BHPs
Sig P220s
Colt SAA
Ruger Vaqueros
Ruger BlackHawks
1858 Remmys
1860 Army's
LeMats
Colt Python
Springfield XDs
Colt/SW 1917s
SW N Frames
Markarovs
Flintlock pistols
Kahr K40s

I don't like...

Glocks
HK USPs
Most other SW ___-frames
Not crazy about wheellock pistols
Matchlocks never really did anything for me
Itty-bitty Ravens and such
Beretta 92Fs


Huh...go figure. Personal prefrence. There's no figuring another person's taste.

[Rangerover]

I'm 39. Before I bought my first handgun for personal defense I tried a lot of different types. I read everything I could find on which particular handgun was "best" or "better" (though I knew there really isn't any such ani-mule). Boned up on their perceived strengths and weaknesses. Double stack? Single stack? Polymer? Steel? Big bullet? Little bullet?

I tried to analyze it all.

I finally settled on anything made by Kimber.

So, it really didn't have to anything to do with tradition or old habits, per se. Besides...is 39 old? I dunno. I'm not young and stupidly impetuous anymore, but I can still physically do anything I want. Might be a little more painful, but I can still do it...:uhoh:

[TRIDENT]

31 years old here, shoot my Springfield 1911 more than the others.

[mec]

it may be that some designs are more likely to work right out of the box and without modifications. However, a proven 1911 -one made by a company that cares what it is doing or fixed by a competent person- will perform as well and sometimes better than any other autopistol.

It is kind of neat to have a useful tool that has been around since the time that it was uncertain that the automobile would replace the horse and buggy.

[Wanderer]

I'm 13 and shoot a heluva lot better with a 1911 or revolver than I do with a glock or any other gun. I'm mature for my age I guess....

[DontShootMe]

I dont think it's age necessarily, more like how many years you owned guns. I've seen 25 year old gun veterans and 35 year old 'newbies'.

That said...

I'm ony 5 years old in gun years. I still like the poly-poppers, as they were called. I also have a strong desire to buy a 'pimp' gun. But hey, I'm only 5.

I do have a revolver though. But it's not as fun to shoot as my wundernine.

:p

[355sigfan]

Who would you rather have shoot at you???

Or another way to ask, who usually shoots worse at the range?

Old guy with 1911... or young tactical guy with a black wonderpistol?

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Actually I was beating guys with 1911's with my sigs and Glocks when I was a 21 year old kid at the local pin and IDPA matches. It was the shooter not the gun. Now I carry a 1911 and I relize that its great trigger with a short reset and its low bore axis make it one of the easiest pistols to shoot fast and accurately under high stress. Good shooters come in all age groups. I am about to turn old in October. I will be 30 time for a mid life crisis. Its strange I have been buying nice old revolvers of late. Like a 8 inch Royal Blue Colt Python that I just love.

PAT

[coldshot03/04]

Yeah And all of the younger shooters are buying Polys.:D

[Matthew_Q]

I'm 26, and the 1911 has always been a favorite of mine. My first pistol when I was 21 was a Llama 1911. Had mucho problems with the extractor, but I loved how it felt in my hand. Now I have a SA Milspec and love it. Reliable as hell, and fits my hand very well.

I've always had kinda classical tastes. I love wood and steel. My favorite rifle of all time is the M1. The Lee Enfield is a close second tied with the M14/M1A.

[Mute]

Who you calling old, you young whippersnapper?

[Chupacabra]

I'm 25 and my favorite pistol is the 1911. First time I fired one I fell in love...and kicked myself every day after for not trying one out when deciding on which pistol to get for CCW.

I like both my 1911 and USP, but the 1911 holds a special place in my heart.

:D

[russlate]

I've had a 2 1/2" nickel Model 19 since I was 21. I'm 53 now.

I have been practicing to play that 19 the way Chet Atkins played the guitar or Biil Jordan did his 4" M19 for nigh on 30 years now.

I don't mind an auto when I'm awake, but if I gotta grab a gun before I have my second cup of coffee I grab a 2" Model 38 Bodyguard J-frame, a 4" Model 19 K- frame, or a 4" Model 58 M&P N-frame in calibers ( in order listed ) 38 spl, 357 mag, and 41 mag respectively. ( The 2 1/2" M19 is semi-retired til it gets some TLC to tighten her back up the way she was in the days of our youths. Then she'll get taken out after rocks at a hundred yards like the old days. )

The original point and click interface, so to speak. If I'm going to have to grab a gun while half asleep, the revolver is ingrained into me. So why not do the same awake and keep the auto tor a backup?

[BigG]

When many of us who started out shooting young grew up, there were only 2 or three centerfire autoloaders commonly available (apart from pissant .32s and .380s of various stripe). Those were the .45 Colt Automatic Pistol, the P08 Luger, the P38, and the rarely seen S&W Model 39. There were also rumors of a pistol called the Browning High Power, although they were never seen in the flesh.

Today, we live in a renaissance of pistol choice. It is embarrassing how may possibilities we have compared to the '60s when I grew up.

Of the available choices during the '60s, the .45 was the only one that put the correct sized hole in the target. Many of us started with it and saw no reason to change.

I also like revolvers of the larger magnum variety. :D

[BowStreetRunner]

Im 21 and in love with my Makarov, certainly no fancy smancy hi cap polymer piece
and i want a 1911, something old like a sistema colt from argetina
as a general rule i think 1911 and wheel gun guys might be older but with flory as an example that isnt always the case
the young can through great study and meditation learn the lessons of their elders
:cool:
BSR

[355sigfan]

Im 21 and in love with my Makarov, certainly no fancy smancy hi cap polymer piece
and i want a 1911, something old like a sistema colt from argetina
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They so seem like a good value but I could never fall in love with the Mak. It has crude sights, gritty trigger and just feels cheap. I am not enamored with the 9x18 either. As far as the Agentina Colt I would say their are fine for collection purposes. But if the gun is for serious use just get a Kimber of something comparable. You will spend more money in the long run bringing the older gun up to spec.
PAT

[Tamara]

Guns that have left recently:
P7M8, P-228, G29, P-232, USP-9c, Springfield V10.

Guns that have arrived recently:
Springfield 1911A1, Colt Series 80 Enhanced .38 Super, 581, 610, Detonics Mk I, an old Clackamas Kimber.


Funny, I don't feel old and cranky... :uhoh:

[Boats]

I'll admit it, I'm ancient. . . .



I finally gave up my bearded axe and scramsax for the 1911 and am currently looking forward to a wheelgun.:rolleyes:

[Tamara]

I finally gave up my bearded axe

I kept mine. :D

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=103819

[Sean Smith]

That post is at once very cool and very scary. :evil: