NEF SS ammo getting stuck


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Blue Brick
November 15, 2007, 10:20 PM
I have a new NEF 12 gauge that all the empty shells are getting stuck in the barrel after the shotgun is fired. It will eject live rounds a good distance, but not used ones. It seems that the empties expand and fill up the sidewalls kind of like what blazer ammunition does some to revolvers. I was using Winchester “universal” 6 shot. Anyone have this happen to them?

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Oldnamvet
November 15, 2007, 10:36 PM
Yes, I ran across that with my sxs when I had some of the Winchester bulk pack bargain shells. Switched to different brands and no problem. Try some remington or federals and see if there isn't a difference. It also doesn't hurt to be double sure your chamber is clean.

Blue Brick
November 15, 2007, 10:42 PM
100% Clean

Dave McCracken
November 15, 2007, 10:58 PM
Try other ammo. Some Winchester loads seem to have issues....

Blue Brick
November 15, 2007, 11:28 PM
Thank you

foghornl
November 16, 2007, 11:22 AM
The Winchester bulk/promo loads seem to have extraction issues for a lot of people, while some folks don't have a problem.

Also, make sure that ALL of the gunk is out of the chamber. New firearms seem to be 'pre-grunged' when you buy them with some sort of protective grease.

MCgunner
November 16, 2007, 11:43 AM
It ain't just the promo loads. I have Xpert HV steel at 11 dollars a box hang on me once in a while and have to dig the case out. I never had that problem with Federal, but I put up with the occasional round getting stuck for the performance of the ammo. I keep thinking Winchester will fix the problem. But, I had one stick on me yesterday, so I guess it's still a problem.

I think I'm going to try some Kent Fasteel in that shotgun in the future to get away from the Winchester stuff. Funny thing, it don't seem to bother my Winchester. LOL!

Onmilo
November 16, 2007, 12:48 PM
Sounds to me like the chamber is on the right side of the tolerence spectrum.
Slighty oversize chamber will cause fired cases to overexpend and stick making them harder to kick free that the undersized unfired shells.

Two fixes: 1. install a slightly stronger ejector spring.
2. send the barrel and action back to NEF and have them fix the barrel or replace it.

Pete409
November 16, 2007, 01:08 PM
Blue Brick,

It sounds like there are two issues at work here, and they are very common issues with many shotguns, particularly the cheaper ones.

First, the chamber is probably rougher than it should be. This is likely due to the manufacturer not taking the time to sufficiently polish the chamber. Fortunately, you can do this yourself with an electric drill, a wire bore brush or chamber brush, and some 00 steel wool. Wrap the steel wool around the wire brush and chuck it into your drill. Apply a few drops of oil and polish at low/medium speed. It may take 10 to 15 minutes or so to adequately polish it.

Second, the Universal shells have a steel head. Steel heads have a tendency to stick to chambers much more than brass heads do, but they are cheaper to manufacture due to the cost of the material. You might try some other steel head shells since not all of them are created exactly the same. Or, better yet, switch to shells which have brass heads such as Winchester AA or Remington STS shells. These shells cost a little more than the Universals, but you usually get what you pay for.

To determine if the head is brass, just hold a magnet to the side of the head. If it is steel, the magnet will be attracted to it. If it is brass, the magnet won't be attracted to it. P.S. Don't hold the magnet to the primer area since all primers are attracted to magnets.

MCgunner
November 16, 2007, 01:32 PM
What ever happened to Activ ammo, all plastic with a steel head molded into the plastic? Those things were great and the cases reloaded as many times as AA?

Blue Brick
November 16, 2007, 04:18 PM
I called Winchester and they are sending me a call tag. They want all the unused shells and some of the used ones.

Blue Brick
November 19, 2007, 04:53 PM
I am going dove hunting this week, so is Federal “GAME LOAD” ok or should I get "HEAVY FIELD"? I will bring a magnet when I go to Wal-Mart.

Upriver
November 19, 2007, 05:17 PM
Try high-brass loads as a quick fix. I had this same problem with a NEF and it would only happen with low-brass loads.

scout26
November 19, 2007, 06:27 PM
Yep, polish the chamber and use better ammo.

Blue Brick
November 21, 2007, 06:43 PM
I have Federal "Game Shock" Heavy Field load 12 2.75 7.5 Shot with Brass caps.

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