[ATAShooter]

I was in a local gunstore the other day and was looking at some of the new fangled in line muzzleloaders now available. There was a Young fellow, 19 or so next to me looking at the Thompson Triumph. Upon putting it up and down to his shoulder a couple times, he looks at me and said " Think they have something like this in semi-auto?". I lost it and started laughing. He took great exception to this and walked off. I gathered some things that I wanted to purchase, and hit the register. When I got there the sales folks were giggling like a bunch of school girls, and saying some guy just asked them for a semi-auto muzzleloader. I told them what he had asked me, and I thought the guy was actually joking. Apperently not.

[AnthonyC.]

ummmmm...I probibly could not hold back either:D but you should have informed him on his mistake so he would not have done this again.

[mykeal]

Not nice.:uhoh:

You were young and stupid once, too.

It would have been nice to apologize for laughing and explain the situation. We need all the fans we can get.

But, yes, it was a funny question.:D

[dwave]

Could have told him that they are full automatic....With the loader doing the full automation. I guess one of those new electric CVAs could be considered a semi-automatic, lol.

[4v50 Gary]

Poor newb. You can tell they didn't have reruns of Daniel Boone around his area. It does get the wheels spinning though. The gases could probably be harnessed, but not for muzzle loading. The energy required to have a ramrod run down the bore and then be extracted is too great for one shot.

Does it stand to reason that a muzzle loader who shoots 100 rounds (say, a minie rifle) uses more energy and is therefore slimmer than an AR shooter?

[Joe the Redneck]

People that stupid shouldn't own guns.

[mykeal]

People that stupid shouldn't own guns.

Come on guys, we were all young and stupid once. Were you born knowing all about muzzleoading rifles? Somebody had to teach you at some point, and you might have even asked a dumb question or two along the way. It was a dumb, stupid, even funny question. But give the kid a break. Geez.

[JCT]

have to agree with Joe there. Yes, we need all the fans we can get, but not the types that are giving guns the bad rep, those who can't safely own or use them.
Maybe this guy will learn a bit about what he's shopping for before he buys one. That's just too stupid of a question to ask, maybe he was joking? You know, with all the synthetic polymer stocks, camo, inline, high tech muzzleloaders, he might just be making fun of them.

[JCT]

Of course, that's important to keep in mind. The most intelligent people once knew nothing.
That's absolutely fine and understandable. I just wish they'd follow this order: 1- Learn about the gun, it's safe operation and use 2- Buy the gun 3- apply safe operation/loading and use.
Too often it's: 1- buy gun, try to figure it out, shoot it anyway

[mykeal]

And all too often we who have the knowledge and experience choose to laugh at those who do not, and make fun of their inexperience. Forgetting, of course, that there just may be some subjects that we perhaps don't have all the knowledge in the world about, and just might seem to be simpletons when conversing with those who perhaps have that superior knowledge.

The better choice, the high road, as it were, would have been to explain to the young man what muzzleloading and black powder are all about.

I wish I could say that I've always done that - I haven't, but I do at least feel that I should have, that it would have been the better choice.

[DrLaw]

There was a time that I thought that Lugers were single shots, because my toy Lugers were like that. I was in my teens before I learned different. It all depends on what you know and what you don't.

In a gun book, there is a photo from a paperback book showing a guy with a blazing .44 Army in each hand, jets of fire coming out of one and the other recoiling. For both there are cartridges flying in the air as if they were being ejected from a semi-auto. Whoops!!!!

The Doc is out now. :cool:

[JCT]

Good advice Mykeal. Not too long ago I was picking up an order at the local gunshop when a guy asked the clerk " do you sell caps for a knight muzzeloader?"
I asked " are those special for hunting at night?" I had never hear of knight myself. I'm sure that seamed stupid to those who were there!

[Kimber1911_06238]

of course those exist. They are made by the same company that made my class III muzzleloader :)

[Misfire99]

People that stupid shouldn't own guns.

You might try to understand the difference between stupid and ignorant. The kid was just that, a kid. He had very little experience and was therefore ignorant. He can still learn with the proper instruction. People that keep doing the same thing and expect different results are stupid. They can not, or do not, learn. All the experience in the world will not teach them.

People that are stupid should be treated as if they are mentally retarded. And in a way they are. People that are ignorant should be protected by instructing them properly. Do unto others as you would have done unto you.

[Mike 56]

That kid does not have a lick of common sense every one knows muzzleloaders only come in single shot or full auto. :) Being young and stupid is cool we have all been there but what about old and stupid there is just no were to go from there.

Mike

[mykeal]

That kid does not have a lick of common sense every one knows muzzleloaders only come in single shot or full auto. Being young and stupid in cool we have been there what about old and stupid there is just no were to go from there.

Mike

Here we have an interesting example of throwing stones from inside your glass house.