Glock Slide Rail Rust!! What To Do??


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Fake Name
November 19, 2007, 04:28 PM
I finally firld stripped my carry-lots-shoot-little G23 and noticed rust on one of the slide rails (frame). I can only guess that this happened because I got lint and debris in there then proceeded to sweat on the gun this summer.

Any who, I took some 800 grit emory cloth and got most of the oxidation off without affecting the metal too much.

So here's my question: since there is some pitting - what can I do to get rid of the rest of the rust? Is there any way to neutralize the rust if I can't get it all out?

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RyanM
November 19, 2007, 04:44 PM
I'd just squirt some CLP on there and rub it with a soft rag. I've yet to have a gun rust badly enough that CLP and some scrubbing wouldn't get rid of it.

Robert Hairless
November 19, 2007, 05:06 PM
Before you apply any other potentially destructive self help to that Glock 23 you might want to telephone Glock, describe the problem, and ask for their suggestions.

RKBABob
November 19, 2007, 05:10 PM
Robert Hairless wrote: Before you apply any other potentially destructive self help to that Glock 23 you might want to telephone Glock, describe the problem, and ask for their suggestions.
Or.... he can send it to me! I'll give that poor, wounded Austrian a good home! :neener:

Mr White
November 19, 2007, 05:14 PM
Don't believe him! RKBABob will just make it rust more! Send it to ME! I'll give you a WRITTEN GUARANTEE that I won't let it rust! The climate where he's at, between Ohio and New Jersey, is so damp, it'll probably rust away to nothing in less than a year, unlike the climate here in PA, which is perfect for keeping guns looking like new.

I'll even give you visitation rights once a month. Ol' Bob will keep it from you and never let you see it again!




Or..... you could just take a piece of #0000 steel wool and some Hoppes and be done with it.

RKBABob
November 19, 2007, 05:34 PM
Mr White wrote: The climate where he's at, between Ohio and New Jersey, is so damp, it'll probably rust away to nothing in less than a year, unlike the climate here in PABwaa haa haaa! Hehehe! Chuckle... laffph, haha!

Fake Name
November 19, 2007, 05:35 PM
Just got off the phone w/ Glock. They said, "there isn't too much they can suggest because once the rusting starts you cant completely get rid of the rust- all I can do is keep it lubed". I asked if the rail was made of stainless steel and the rep said he wasnt sure.

If the rail is stainless, I wouldn't want to use any steel wool (as suggested in an earler post) because it would contaminate the stainless steel -if thats what the rail is made of.

GlockamaniaŽ
November 19, 2007, 05:39 PM
EDIT: Ahhh...Slide rails!

RKBABob
November 19, 2007, 05:41 PM
Fake Name, just to put things in perspective... check out this Glock torture test: http://www.theprepared.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=90&Item
There's plenty of rust there! AND IT STILL WORKS.

Fake Name
November 19, 2007, 06:11 PM
Just for clarification: It's not the slide that's rusting. It's the slide rails on the frame that are rusting.

GRIZ22
November 19, 2007, 09:28 PM
Slide rails rusting on a Glock. This is the first time I ever heard of this. I was a firerarms instructor for an office of about 150 LEOs with Glocks. I also used to help other offices qualify so I was exposed to over 400 Glocks every quarter.

I finally firld stripped my carry-lots-shoot-little G23 and noticed rust on one of the slide rails (frame).

Glocks are very reliable when neglected but I thibk you need to strip it down and wipe it down more often.

Ratshooter
November 19, 2007, 09:33 PM
Stainless steel doesn't mean it won't rust but that its stain resistant. Keep grease on the rails.

Ratshooter
November 19, 2007, 09:35 PM
Naval Jelly is supposed to remove rust. Of course if you have an outty or bathe regular its hard to get enough to work with.

JWarren
November 19, 2007, 11:44 PM
I didn't think this was possible with a Glock.

(I'm just having a tad of fun. I am a Glock owner, and have had my G19 for 13 years.


-- John

Tecolote
November 20, 2007, 12:14 AM
When was your Glock made? Glock changed the frame rail design around the end of last year. They started nickel plating the frame rails for increased lubricity in extreme conditions. Once the nickel plating starts to wear on the new rails the copper layer used to adhere the nickel to the steel starts to show. Some folks have mistaken the copper for rust. Using a steel brush remove all of the remaining plating from the rails to expose the steel. It won't harm the rails and you'll basically have the same type of steel rails used on Glocks for years.

The attached pic shows the copper exposed on the new type of frame rails. Sorry for the low quality, but it does show what can easily be mistaken for rust.

Fake Name
November 20, 2007, 06:44 AM
Thanks for your insight Telecote. It is/was definately rust and not any type of lube. After I went over the area with emory cloth I noticed I still have some pitting. When I field stripped the gun it was dry and powdery. I then tried to wipe it down with gun scrubber and realized it was rust.

The 23 is about two years old.

Tecolote
November 20, 2007, 08:31 AM
It's not lube that I'm talking about, it's copper under the nickel. The rails were nickel plated for lubricity. The "pitting" is the result of the nickel flaking.

I'm not saying that you don't have rust in your case, but check GlockTalk and you'll find that folks have mistaken the finish on the new type rails wearing for rust.

Can you describe the type of frame rails on your G23? Do they look like the ones in the pic? Are the rails smooth or do they have machining marks? If they're like the ones in the pic and lack machining marks chances are good that you've got the new style rails and that what you're seeing isn't rust but rather copper.

Fake Name
November 20, 2007, 08:47 AM
Tecolote, I completely understand what you're saying.

I do have the machining marks. I'm pretty sure this is a rust problem. Do you know if the frame rails are stainless?

Unfortunately, this summer I can recall unholstering the gun and seeing sweat along the frame and slide. Add this to some lint caught in the rail and, viola, oxidation.

Master Blaster
November 20, 2007, 09:41 AM
Get out your Dremel, and grind with your corsest grinding wheel, till the frame rail is gone. There problem solved no more rust or pitting.

Just kidding.

Wht dont you stop worrying about it, throw your sand paper in the trash, put a drop of lube on the rails, and get a couple boxes of ammo and go shoot your Glock.

There is no reason for it to be a carried alot shot a little gun, Glocks are made to be fired, and you will not wear it out, unless you keep sanding it.

230RN
November 20, 2007, 10:52 AM
I don't know anything about Glocks, but I would suggest that you treat the whole gun as if it had been fired with corrosive ammo or black powder and do a complete water-based solvent cleaning on it.

If the salt from the sweat is on the rails, it's probably everywhere.

Again, no expertise on Glocks, but I understand that they can be thrown in the dishwasher. (?)

Right or wrong, in any case, dissolve that remaining salt away or this problem may persist and show up in other areas as well.

Sorry if I'm wrong on this one, but... get all that salt out of there.

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