Load Suggestion - Rainier 9mm 115 FMJ/Bullseye


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Bear2000
November 20, 2007, 08:39 PM
Hi,

I'm having trouble finding loading data for Rainier 9mm plated 115 FMJ bullets using Bullseye powder. Does anyone have any suggestions? I'm thinking 3.9 gr and OAL of 1.4.

Thanks!

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Walkalong
November 20, 2007, 09:39 PM
I have not shot Bullseye in the 9MM, but AA# 5, WSF, and N330 work very well for midrange to close to full power 9MM loads with Raniers 115 RN. I am shooting it at 1050 to 1150 FPS from 5" barreled guns, but have reached from 1380ish to a bit over 1430ish Avg. FPS with it from a CX-4 Storm with excellent results using the same loads.

About 4.0 Grs. of Bullseye should be a good starting point with the 115 Gr. Ranier. I load the Ranier 115 RN at 1.135 O.A.L. and it feeds in everything I shoot it in. 1.400 should be fine.

RustyFN
November 20, 2007, 09:48 PM
You can load plated bullets with lead or jacketed data. I load them on the lower end of jacketed. They tell you on their website to keep them under 1200FPS.
Rusty

realbuffdriver
November 20, 2007, 10:42 PM
I use 4.4 grains of Bullseye behind my Rainier 115gr TMJ bullets in mixed 9mm cases. I've found them to cycle very nicely in my Walther P38 as well as my son's Ruger P95. Overall length is 1.140.

Bear2000
November 20, 2007, 11:01 PM
That makes me feel a little more confident. This will be my first batch of 9mm. A few weeks ago the community collectively tutored me as I started loading .223, which I've got - more or less - down. But that was for a bolt action, so I'm a bit more worried about the semi-auto action in my CZ 75 B.

Thanks again.

zxcvbob
November 20, 2007, 11:11 PM
Maximum load of BullsEye for 115 grain FMJ is 5.0 grains with an OAL of 1.12". With plated bullets, I'd drop that back to 4.5 grains with the same length and see how it works. Go up or down a little bit from there; make sure it cycles your action reliably.

ArchAngelCD
November 21, 2007, 03:09 AM
Rainier bullets aren't really jacketed bullets, they are actually plated. When they use the word jacketed they are referring to the bullet having a jacket to protect you from the Lead, not a traditional Jacketed Bullet. The Rainier site instructs you to use Lead bullet load data, not Jacketed load data.

Here is the link to Rainier's WEB site (http://www.rainierballistics.com/mainframe.htm).

On the site they state:
We, at Rainier Ballistics, recommend using lead bullet load data when loading our bullets. There is no need for adjustment when using lead bullet load data. Our bullets are jacketed using an electroplating process and are softer than traditionally jacketed bullets; hence the recommendation to use lead bullet load data. If you only have access to traditionally jacketed load data, we recommend reducing maximum charge by 10%. A roll or taper crimp may be used with our bullets; do not over crimp.

Because of this I would have to agree with zxcvbob's post recommending you drop the charge of Bullseye from 5.0gr to 4.5gr.

jeepmor
November 21, 2007, 05:46 AM
Watch Bullseye carefully, I think it can be double loaded in 9mm and not overfill the case. Other than that, it's a great powder, good luck, have fun, be safe.

Urbana John
November 21, 2007, 06:01 AM
I load my 9's with 5.5 grs.of Unique for my Beretta 92 and 5.8 grs. for a friend's Glock using the rainier 115 GHP---------no problems at all

John

fourrobert13
November 21, 2007, 11:30 AM
I am having good luck with 4.6 gr of Bullseye behind a 115 gr Berry's plated RN. COAL of 1.125.

kart racer
November 21, 2007, 06:20 PM
I've found with my cz's,I have to load to a shorter oal than some other pistols.

I load my 124 gr to 1.115.

RustyFN
November 21, 2007, 06:36 PM
I've found with my cz's,I have to load to a shorter oal than some other pistols.
I had the same problem with my CZ and flat point bullets. I load RN OAL at 1.135. I have shot a lot of Rainier and Berry's in my CZ with jacketed data and they shoot great. Start at the low end and work up. This is from Berry's web site, I load Rainier the same.
*How do I load Berry's Preferred Plated Bullets?
Plated bullets occupy a position between cast bullets and jacketed bullets. They are soft lead, but have a hard outer shell on them. When loading plated bullets we have found best results using low- to mid-range jacketed data in the load manual. You must use data for a bullet that has the same weight and profile as the one you are loading. Do not exceed mid-range loads. Do not use magnum loads.

*How fast can I shoot these bullets?
Velocities depend on the caliber, but as a rule of thumb, we recommend you don't shoot our plated bullets over 1200 feet-per-second. Our 44's actually shoot best around 1150 fps. 45's are generally good at 850-900 fps. Our bullets are not recommended for magnum velocities.
Rusty

Chief-7700
November 21, 2007, 08:30 PM
Rainier reloading data is post here in a PDF File
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=317439

Bear2000
November 21, 2007, 11:09 PM
Well, I loaded 70 rounds of 115 Rainier at 4.0 gr and 1.4 OAL and they fed well through my CZ 75B. Accuracy was as good as the Winchester White Box I have been shooting. I plan on slowly moving up and maybe bring the OAL down just a tad, but so far, so good. Maybe Santa will bring me a chronograph so I can really see what's going on with my loads.

Thanks everyone for your help. What a great community this is.

TankerrobM1A1
November 27, 2007, 07:25 PM
I use the Alliant Bullseye to reload the 9mm 115 gr. and I find that the recommended load 5.0 gr works very well on the range. I am new to the reloading world and am open to any suggestions one might have. I see that it works well; my only concern is that the new reloading manual I have states use 4.0 gr of Bullseye but the Alliant Web page states use 5.0 gr. Other than shortening the life of the brass what outcomes could one expect from using higher than manual measures? I have shot that load many many times and find it works quite well. I have also used old 1980's UNIQUE before Alliant had it back in the day of HERCULES but I found that to be quite dirty, but also good performing, powder.

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