Browning also makes a camo coated Cynergy that looks nice.
I don't know why Ruger quit making the stainless Red Label. Maybe the market wants semiautos instead, for its intended purpose -- though I'd think the Australians would want it, since they have to use break-actions for waterfowl. I kinda liked the Target Grey model, though I didn't care for the synthetic stock when I checked it out. While I like the synthetic on my Ranch Rifle, on the Red Label it doesn't feel too great or balance as well as the walnut. I toyed with buying one and replacing the stocks with walnut ones, but ditched the idea when I got an offer to go on a great hunting trip, so I needed the money.:)
The downer about the Ruger, for me, is that the 28" 12 Gauge is a really heavy gun. Ditto for the Citori. I was looking for an upland gun. If I go waterfowling again, my 870 Express will do fine; it can be cleaned in the field if it's full of mud, and it's a lot cheaper to lose in a lake.
November 21, 2007, 04:20 PM
Mossberg camo is a pretty danged tough finish, but a stainless gun with camo finish would be neat. :D Yeah, I'd want t in an auto, ideally, but I could see hunting ducks with a Red Label. I hunted with a side by side for years. Heavy is good, would soak up some of the punch.
November 21, 2007, 05:30 PM
Heavy is good for shooting, not for carrying. If you're going to be using a boat or a blind, heavy is fine. Nice swing, less shoulder pain with magnum loads. Hiking up and down mountains after quail? I bought a sling my second time out, and then a little 20 Gauge O/U when I found one for a good price.
I don't have a Mossberg, but I think it's similar. I can completely strip my 870 with a pocket knife and a stick, or just a couple sticks if I must. Rinse, wipe, oil, reassemble, keep hunting. Deal with a little rust when you get home. You can't do that with an O/U if you drop it in the mud. Usually, you at least need uncommon screwdrivers to get it apart at all, past taking it down.
November 21, 2007, 06:36 PM
Well, there're no mountains in a duck marsh, well, not in Texas anyway. But, do really like autos and my next shotgun will perhaps be a Mossberg 930 or 935. They soak up recoil without having to be heavy. I'm in no real rush for another gun, though. The 500 shoulders and shoots great. I wouldn't wanna tear it too far down standing knee deep in water,. I can always carry a spare to leave in the van. LOL But, I've never had to do anything like that. Only reason I would look at that Ruger stainless gun is because of the environment down here. Stainless is neat. Remington, Mossberg, or somebody should come out with an all stainless gun. My ideal would be stainless and camo finished auto with a tang safety, the camo to keep the shine down. I don't really know why no one has worked with stainless other than perhaps shotgunners are a little more traditional and less open to change than rifle or handgun shooters. The market for salt marsh and bay waterfowl guns is probably not that large, either. Anyway, like I say, the camo is pretty rugged. I've had that gun about 20 seasons now and it's a little scratched up, but not rusty.
I don't just have one gun. I mean, if I wanna go quail hunting, I'll take one of my side by sides, probably the little 20 gauge. Talk about a light, quick handling shotgun! Every job has it's best tool.
November 21, 2007, 06:55 PM
Oh, agreed. The little 20 is great. However, if Ruger were to make a stainless 20 instead of an 8 lb. 12, I would have already bought one.
I live by the beach, but can't hunt right here.
So the worst enemies are scratches and sweat. Lots of sweat. And dog slobber. Blood. Things like that.
Believe it or not, we even have mountains adjacent to duck hunting areas, not marshes really, but lakes and other waterways. But they're more boat-in than walk-in.
November 22, 2007, 09:53 AM
Sounds like some beautiful country. Dog slobber? ROFL!!!! Man, I wish I lived ot in the county, I'd get another lab. I just can't keep one in town, they're so hyper.
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