Green river Muzzloaders


November 21, 2007, 04:41 PM
I was just curious if anyone knows anything about GreenRiver Muzzloaders.

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November 21, 2007, 04:45 PM
30 years ago, GR barrels were considered among the very best being produced at the time.

Can't tell you much about what happened after that.

November 21, 2007, 04:49 PM
Thanks.:) Anyone else have any info? I know there are some real muzzloading buffs out there.

November 22, 2007, 01:39 AM
I did an archive search on the American Longrifles Bulletin Board and came up with some interesting info. & excerpts about the Green River Rifle Works & their barrels.

Someone who worked there making many hawken rifles said the GRRW Bridger Hawken was as authentic as any hawken made.

The company closed up their business about 1984 and they were located in Roosevelt, Utah.

They made high quality cut rifled barrels.

GRRW set up barrel manufacturing back in the 70's, in part under the aegis of Bill Large, made two lines of barrels, one drilled, reamed and rifled from preformed octagon stock, and the other, termed "premium barrels", were drilled, reamed, rifled, from round stock, then planed octagon between centers to assure concentricity. They were well received barrels and did quite well nationally at matches, so their reputation was good. Upon the closing of the GRRW plant in Roosevelt, UT, the machinery was sold, and the barrel were made again by Bob Black, GJ, CO, and these were arguably the best of the GRRW lot, all planed after machining operations. Then the machinery was sold to a Nevada outfit, which never really got rolling, and last word I read was the GRRW barrels are now being manufactured in Australia. I have two interchangable in my Hawken, 1 1/16 x .62 and .50, obviously, the latter gets more service than the former!! Incidently, I still have one of the Bob Black barrels, 15/16 x .40 cal x 34" in my rack of tubes somewhere. They were offered in 34" and 42" lengths.

Note: The Australian Co. still assembles guns using Green River parts from where ever they can find them, but doesn't make the barrels.

The posts below are about someone inquiring about the value of a used GRRW Leman Trade Rifle and some responses:

Serial #903 Green River Rifle Works Leman Trade Rifle in 54
caliber, GRRW seven groove 33 inch barrel one diameter across the flats,
nice grade maple half-stock stained dark, brass Leman style butt plate and
trigger guard, single trigger. The barrel is not signed by the gunsmith,
but the Green River Rifle Works Roosevelt, Utah stamp on the barrel is
plainly legible.

The TOW Archive has numerous GRRW half stock Leman rifles sold over thr years. The prices range from $550 to $950. Difficult to ascertain why the disparity. However, say an average around $700 using their history. But, on a new rifle has been offered for $750 and it hasn't sold in over six months. This one is new in original GRRW box.


I bought a new GRRW Leman, serial #453 in .54 cal. in 1973. I have fired hundreds of rounds through it and it is still extremely accurate. I would not sell it, but if I did I would ask about $600 for it. I paid less than $200. I think the main factors keeping the values of these otherwise fine guns down are: 1. they are not longrifles in the Pa. style; 2. they are very simple in terms of style and construction; 3. they have (or at least mine has) Kern coil spring locks; 4. the architecture is not that great. However, for a powerful, accurate and very efficient rifle, one need look no further.

I like the look of the one in the photos.

By the way, I am still using the original nipple, after all these years.

Well, I do shoot my homemade percussion rifle best of all my rifles, especially my flinters--it is worth a point loss to use it. I am not a competitive shooter (at least not since I shot on a small bore team in college), but the last match I entered I won against all perc rifles with that perc rifle I made--they then banned that rifle! I think they were kidding, but have not tested them the way it is a standard traditional longrifle [with a very accurate old Green River .45 barrel].

November 22, 2007, 08:44 AM
The barrel that is on my rifle says it was made in Utah. I remember my father saying that he ordered it from Utah. Arcticap, you rellly know where to find your info, Thank you sir. Would you know of good sites that have good classifieds that I may be able to post it on?:)

November 22, 2007, 11:50 AM
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November 23, 2007, 02:34 PM

November 25, 2007, 06:15 PM
From what I understand Doc White of Whites Muzzleloading Com. was originally one of the owners. He still make muzzleloaders and has a website.

November 25, 2007, 06:17 PM
From what I understand Doc White of Whites Muzzleloading Com. was originally one of the owners. He still make muzzleloaders and has a website.

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