Suppressed Shotgun?


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kingpin008
November 22, 2007, 01:17 AM
Just got back from a late showing of No Country For Old Men. It's an adaptation of the novel by the same name by Cormac McCarthy. Excellent film, I recommend it. Cormac McCarthy is an amazing writer, and they definetly did not drop the ball transferring his work to the screen.

Anyhow - my real question: in the movie, the main character is being pursued by a psychotic killer. Throughout the film, the killer routinely uses a suppressed semi-auto shotgun to dispatch his victims. To my untrained eye, it looks like it might be a Beretta.

In short - Is there even a thing as a suppressed shotgun? I've never seen one. And yes, I know that you can slap a suppressor on darn near any gun and it will make it quieter, but is there any basis in reality for a suppressed shotgun? I can't imagine it would be that effective, especially when used with a semi-auto loaded with buckshot.

Other than that, it was very cool. The can itself was freaking BIG, lol. I can't find a picture at the moment but I'll keep trying.

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gcrookston
November 22, 2007, 01:19 AM
can and is done, but there are limitations... see the link:

http://www.guns.connect.fi/rs/rifles.html

jlbraun
November 22, 2007, 01:33 AM
A shotgun suppressor only gives about 5-6dB of noise reduction.

kingpin008
November 22, 2007, 01:37 AM
Are you sure? Because the one in the movie was really, really quiet.:neener:

dubious
November 22, 2007, 02:02 AM
Thats 5-6db reduction with standard ammo. That Finnish site says that the supression is more effective with special subsonic shotgun shells... it makes it sound like u don't need hearing protection for those.

I saw that movie too, I've been thinking about it all week. Definitely a must see!

PTK
November 22, 2007, 02:05 AM
In terms of actual sound/blast to the shooter, silencers on shotguns work.

No matter what you do, with shot, it makes noise going through the air.

SDC
November 22, 2007, 07:36 AM
I've fired one of these in 12 gauge before; http://www.saddleryandgunroom.co.uk/_private/retail%20cat.pdf They're made for pest control, and you can get the same suppressor on a Mossberg pump-action if you want a repeater. It's nowhere near completely silent (there's a wierd sort of "thump"-ring noise when you fire it, because the suppressor body acts like sort of a bell), but it IS a big downstep from a non-suppressed shotgun.

Titan6
November 22, 2007, 12:08 PM
The Army experimented with the suppressed-subsonic combo in Vietnam. It worked well in a noisy jungle where range was limited.

PTK
November 22, 2007, 01:27 PM
To me, for what it's worth, it sounds quieter than a silenced .308 with supersonic ammunition.

VirgilCaine
November 22, 2007, 08:59 PM
(there's a wierd sort of "thump"-ring noise when you fire it, because the suppressor body acts like sort of a bell)

Sounds like it does what it means to--makes it hard to figure out it's a gunshot.

Smitty in CT
November 22, 2007, 10:04 PM
There is always the Hastings "metro" chokes....

or this one....

www.quietgun.com

Smitty

Sonic
November 23, 2007, 02:37 AM
Gunsmith Tony Rumore is working on a suppressor for a shotgun. He has tried the suppressor on a shotgun with an 8-inch barrel. Using the suppressor with a short-barreled shotgun like this, has the advantage of keeping the overall length of the shotgun with the suppressor installed, about the same length as an unsuppressed shotgun with a normal length barrel. The shorter barrel also reduces the shot velocity a bit, which improves the sound reduction performance of the suppressor.

8-inch barreled shotgun:
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l246/TonyRumore/8inchLage3.jpg?t=1195802099

Another 8-inch barreled shotgun with suppressor installed:
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l246/TonyRumore/SuppressorX2.jpg

Tony has test fired this setup, and according to him it definitely doesn't silence the shotgun, but does reduce the sound enough that ear protection is no longer required, which is still very useful.

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