NEF Pardner


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Dynasty
November 22, 2007, 08:26 PM
From what I read about the NEF Pardner 12ga with 18" barrel it seems like a very solid shotgun at a good price. Dick's has them for sale tomorrow for $150 and I was thinking about getting one to be my first shotgun. Any flaws with them? Do they have the same internals as the Remington 870? Do they feel cheap? Anyone disagree with getting one at that price and/or other reasons?

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Killian
November 22, 2007, 08:43 PM
Is that a pump action or a single barrel? If single barrel, $150 seems a bit high.

Dynasty
November 22, 2007, 08:55 PM
Pump action

19-3Ben
November 23, 2007, 12:00 AM
I've heard they are cheap made in China knock offs of a Remington 870, but that they work. Very few people who actually own them complain. Personally, I'd not get one because I have a thing against a Chinese made gun, but that's just me.

chad1043
November 23, 2007, 12:11 AM
Get it, They are backed up with H&R's warranty. I have heard good things. Profit goes to an American company.

MAX100
November 23, 2007, 10:46 AM
The Pardner Protector is just as good as an Remington Express and maybe better in somethings. I believe they are drilled and tapped for a scope mount and have a metal trigger guard, the Express has a plastic one and not DT for scope mount. All the same Rem 870 accessories will fit them: stocks, forends, shell carriers, tactical safeties and mag tube Ext. The mag tube Ext will either be to short or to long because of the barrel setup on the PP. They will hold 6 shells in the tube if you drill out the mag tube dimples and only use the factory follower and spring. They are built under Marlin H&R specs and have one year Warranty.

Here is a review done on the Pardner Pump:
http://survival.com/IVB/index.php?showtopic=5542


GC

Onmilo
November 23, 2007, 11:36 AM
All the parts and accessories will be too long or too short because the Chinese build the guns on the metric system of measurement and Remington builds their guns on the inch system of measurement.

The screws and pins on the Chinese H&R are of very poor quality.
The gun will outlast the one year warranty and then plan on having problems.

The plastic triggerguard is actually more durable and resistent to denting than the metal trigger guard of the Chinese copy.

Copies are never as good as the originals.

MAX100
November 23, 2007, 12:36 PM
The ones who say negative things about the Pardner Pump have obviously never owned one or can't get over the fact they come from China. Read the review of the Pardner Pump shotgun I post above. The steel quality was tested and found to be excellent. I have never heard anyone say they would rather have a plastic trigger guard over a metal one. The higher end Remington 870 Police shotguns come with the same type of Cast Metal Trigger Guard. I own a Remington 870 copy imported by Hawk, same as the Pardner Pump. I have put close to a thousand rounds of all types of ammo through it with no FTF or any problems what so ever, it is still going strong, the action is smooth and it still looks nice also.

All the Accessories I named above will fit the Pardner Pump. It is a steal of a deal at $150.


GC

50caliber123
November 23, 2007, 12:42 PM
A used Remington 870 (A staple of every pawnshop) can be had used for $150-200. Why buy chineese when American-made 870's are only a few dollars more? I could understand if it was a big difference in price, but you get what you pay for.

19-3Ben
November 23, 2007, 12:49 PM
The ones who say negative things about the Pardner Pump have obviously never owned one or can't get over the fact they come from China. Read the review of the Pardner Pump shotgun I post above.

I completely and totally admitted to that in my post above. I said that they are chinese knock-offs of 870's(true), that they work (also true), and that I just don't like the idea of chinese knock-off of something as American as an 870 (also true). But I didn't say anything negative about them. Just that I wouldn't buy one because I can't get past the politics of it. To each his own, and if you feel fine buying a Pardner Pump, you'll have a very inexpensive gun that will work, and G-d bless ya for it. Me? I'll stick with the Remington thankyouverymuch.
To each is own.

novaDAK
November 24, 2007, 06:24 AM
I looked at the chinese Pardner, but decided to just get a Mossberg Maverick 88 which is made in Texas USA.

Besides the fact that I'm not buying chinese when I can help it, I also noticed the stock on the Pardner was the same length as the Mossberg 500 YOUTH. I wanted a full size stock, and I got my Maverick for 199 new :)

Blue Brick
November 24, 2007, 09:42 AM
Mossberg Maverick 88 is made in Mexico.

Dave McCracken
November 24, 2007, 05:25 PM
$150 will buy you a much used 870.

Better choice.

novaDAK
November 25, 2007, 12:28 PM
Mossberg Maverick 88 is made in Mexico.
Nope, Made in Texas. I looked into it ;)


Though the parts from what I heard come from across the border.

50calREV
November 25, 2007, 03:43 PM
I've had a Hawk 12GA shotgun for over a year now. It has over 1000 rds. of 6 shot, 4 shot ,00 Buck, and slugs. It rides around in my truck often. I've dropped it in mud, brackish water and salt water. It has always worked. I only paid $159 + tax and background for it. I also own 2 Remmy 870 wingmasters and a mossy 500 cruiser. A Browning Auto 5 will hopefully be next.

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