i got a new uberti today


PDA
Timmer
November 23, 2007, 01:23 AM
a 1873 cattleman Millenium.

now, why is it so unsafe to carry this thing 6-up, and can i dryfire it? i do plain on getting some snapcaps for it

If you enjoyed reading about "i got a new uberti today" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!
Coyote3855
November 23, 2007, 11:48 AM
Timmer,

I own a Uberti single action, but I'm not sure how the Cattleman Millenium is set up. Single actions revolvers that have the firing pin on the hammer, like the original Colts, can discharge if a blow to the hammer breaks the "safety" notch and drives the firing pin into the primer. This can happen if something hits the hammer while its in the holster, or if the gun is dropped. Single actions with a transfer bar safety, such as Ruger Vaqueros and I think Taurus and Charles Daly, can be carried 6 up with no risk, since the transfer bar is lifted into place only if the trigger is pulled.

Same goes for dry firing. Transfer bar guns can be dry fired without snap caps with no danger of damage to the gun. Firing pin on the hammer guns can be dry fired, but probably best to use snap caps if you plan to do it a lot.

So I dry fire the heck out of my Rugers, and carry all chambers loaded unless I'm competing in Single Action Shooting which restricts revolvers to 5 rounds. The Uberti gets 5 up and I don't dry fire it without snap caps.

I'm guessing here, but I bet your Uberti has a firing pin on the hammer, and should only be loaded with rounds.

Brasso
November 23, 2007, 12:25 PM
Always carry the Uberti with 5 rounds and the hammer resting on an empty chamber. Load one, skip one, and load 4. the hammer and lower onto the empty chamber.

Dirtypacman
November 23, 2007, 02:24 PM
Pics I demand Pics

I love them Uberti's

Timmer
November 27, 2007, 11:25 AM
ok, i managed to upload a few pix if it at flicker.com, anybody know how i can link them to here? of is there a user photo gallery here? i looked i didnt see one.

Boomerang
November 28, 2007, 02:46 AM
Copy the url address of the picture that you have uploaded on the web.
Paste the url in the message reply box, then Put this code in front of the url:
Then put this code at the end of the url:
The brackets are part of the code.

Z71
November 28, 2007, 10:06 AM
If it's like the Uberti single action Colt clones I have owned in the past, has a hammer block safty device added to the hammer's "safty" notch. Will also have a cylinder pin safty thingy-bob. The cylinder pin can be pushed back to block the hammer and set forward for fireing. Depends on the model, if it's anew style with the spring loaded cylinder pin latch, just push the pin latch and push or pull the pin. Pin will have two positions. The blackpowder fram/old style frame has a thumb screw that can be screwed loose to move the pin.

An older Uberti Colt clone I had did not have the cylinder pin safty, but did have the hammer safty

My current Uberti has both, and is the old style frame. Came with the thumb screw for the cylinder pin, plus a reguler take-down screw if you didn't want the odd looking thumb screw sticking out the front of the frame.

Probably not real useful saftys, either one. Just added to the gun to make it able to pass drop tests, and because Uberti has been sued in the past for accidental discharges. A legal issue Uberti avoids now with the addition of the saftys.

I just leave mine unloaded until I'm ready to shoot, then load six and shoot.

Troutman
November 28, 2007, 07:02 PM
http://www.freelayouticons.com/graphics/1172276080-gb-Congrats__Smiley.gif

Hawk
November 28, 2007, 08:12 PM
As to the OP, you should carry "5 up" as the safety which prevents the firing pin from contacting the primer under impact doesn't stand up to much in the way of impact from what I can tell.

Also, I read somewhere (probably here) that it's a sound idea to get in the habit of loading 5 if you own both standard 1863 pattern revolvers and more modern types as one manual of arms is a Good Thing. Hence, I load 5 in my new Vaq although it will handle 6 safely.

I've got one SAA clone that definitely doesn't like all chambers loaded, a Cattleman that's "betwixt and between" and a New Vaq that takes 6 - better not to complicate the issue - they all get 5. If you get into CAS, you'll only be permitted 5 so you might as well get in the habit.

If you restrict yourself to Rugers, Berettas and Tauri (I may be missing some) than 6 is fine. But, SAAs are adictive and you'll probably wind up with a "5 only" eventually.

Jim March
November 28, 2007, 08:52 PM
I have a Ruger NewVaq now. I deliberately will NOT own a five-up-only gun, for this exact reason.

The loading drill on the Rugers is different even from the other transfer-bar SAs (mainly Beretta and Taurus): Rugers load with the hammer fully down, the others follow the Colt pattern of loading on the half-cock. So I'll probably stay with Rugers - but it's not as much a safety issue as a speed-in-handling issue. The Ruger system is faster to reload but not as authentic.

Timmer
November 29, 2007, 11:10 PM
here it is!!! I Love it!!


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2005/2069006650_8db328bc20_o.jpg

buttrap
November 30, 2007, 12:46 AM
Thats why I went with a Uberti SA Smith type army. They have a hammer block bar like post WW-2 Smith DA guns. I have also seen a lot of old Colt SAA hammers that had the safety notch sheered right off the things too. I would put a lot more faith on the pin down between two rounds and a good holster over that so called safety cock notch

Brasso
November 30, 2007, 12:50 AM
DO NOT trust the half notch. Load 5. That thing doesn't always work.

ArchAngelCD
November 30, 2007, 04:55 AM
You had to post that picture, didn't you!! Now I want one again...

That is a very nice revolver, enjoy it and be safe.

.44walkersabot
December 1, 2007, 07:44 AM
Uberti do mak'em pretty don't they?

SASS#23149
December 1, 2007, 12:38 PM
I shot one that a friend has,and after I shot it I WANTED ONE!!

Enjoy!!!

buttrap
December 2, 2007, 08:51 PM
Uberti does make some pretty guns.

Leatherbark
December 2, 2007, 09:38 PM
If you look under the firing pin on your hammer you will see a little hammer block in the unblocked position.......You can reach and pull it up with your fingers to see how it works. When you put the hammer in the first notch there is a plunger that folds that hammer block against the frame, thus blockin the firing pin from contacting the primer............I would still load five...............I have a pistol like yours..............dont mess with the front sight if the windage is off until you fire several hundred rounds through the weapon..............It will eventually settle down and then you can make a sight adjustment I.E. turning the barrel or bending the sight............P.S. the front sight will break off if bent too much............Dont ask....................Well what the heck...............I bent my sight right off the bat. Looked like a bananna................The POI kept moving and I had to bend it back................Then I broke it off...............Soldered it back on and now it is in the same place the factory put it to start with.......................Sheesh.............................Bob

Crazy4nitro
December 3, 2007, 04:43 AM
Nice Picture

'Nitro

ryan b
December 3, 2007, 01:17 PM
Do as Brasso said he is correct

TallPine
December 3, 2007, 01:37 PM
I dunno why anyone would want to engage one of those hammer block safeties on a SA revolver...? You would have disabled your gun from being able to be drawn, cocked, and fired in a smooth motion. :(

Carry hammer down on an empty chamber or get a Ruger ;)

If you enjoyed reading about "i got a new uberti today" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!