00 Buck and 000 Buck


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The Ruckus
November 24, 2007, 12:43 AM
What are the major differences between the two? If over penetration is not of concern which is better for home defense? Which one spreads faster? Any input would be appreciated.

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v8stang289
November 24, 2007, 12:47 AM
00 pellets are .33 inches in diameter, and 000 pellets are.36 inches in diameter. For the same weight load, there will be more pellets in 00 than 000. I'm not sure how they spread comparatively.
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grendelbane
November 24, 2007, 04:19 PM
I have only compared Federal Tactical 00 and 000 buck. Both seem to pattern about the same, with the 000 being just a hair tighter.

The Federal 000 buck is not a full .36" diameter. It is more like .343". 8 pellets of their 000 buck weighs about the same as 9 pellets of 00 buck.

The 000 might penetrate slightly more, but has one less pellet per shot.

I don't think there is really enough difference to worry about, though other brands might perform differently. I would like to investigate a true 000buck load some time.

RyanM
November 24, 2007, 05:42 PM
#1 meets the FBI's minimum penetration requirements, with more pellets than either. 16 pellets in standard 2-3/4" shells, rather than 9 00 or 8 000. #1 buck is .30 cal.

shadowalker
November 24, 2007, 05:48 PM
The pattern will be different for different shotguns and different for each brand of ammunition, you'd have to take it to the range to find out how it works in yours. Some ammunition is built specifically to keep tight patterns. Hornady TAP has done well in several tests but in my case all buckshot I've tested has been pretty tight beyond the ranges I'd be using it at.

#00 or #000 will work fine for self defense, a tactical or reduced recoil #00 can be very good as well.

With equal velocity the #000 should perform a bit better, it is a larger and probably heavier projectile but #00 performs very well. #1 is hard to find and is tests show it has borderline performance and it may not consistently deliver enough penetration to be effective.

rcmodel
November 24, 2007, 05:50 PM
Which one spreads faster?None of them will spread very much at room distance, and you don't want them too.

The objective is to keep all the buckshot in the load on the target, not try to catch them with one pellet at the edge of a wide open pattern.

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Winger Ed.
November 25, 2007, 03:05 PM
Being smaller, 3 pellets of 00 will lay down flat in a 12 guage shell.
You'll typically see 2 3/4" OO buckshot rounds with 3 layers of 3 pellets (9 total) in the case.

A OOO pellet, being bigger, won't really 'fit' as well in a 12 guage case.
However they do lay down just right in a 10 guage shell, If I remember correctly-
the 10 guage has 4 stacks of three 'OOO' pellets (12 total).
And, a single stack of 3 'OOO" pellets fit perfect for the buckshot load in a .410 shell.

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Fred Fuller
November 25, 2007, 03:16 PM
There's not enough practical difference in terminal effect to worry about.

Pattern both in your gun at the longest range you'd consider using buckshot. Choose the specific shot size and load that patterns best (according to your desires, whether tight or open) in YOUR gun after you experiment with several different loads. Shotguns are funny, what one 'likes' another won't.

But patterning paper doesn't lie. Base your decision on what WORKS best, not on what someone says is best.

lpl/nc

havoc7usmc
November 25, 2007, 09:29 PM
Hello Gents,
I'm curious about why some guns can or can't fire high/low brass. What's the diff and why. I'm just starting to cut my teeth on shotguns and this seems to be the only place I can get correct info. Don't mean to be a pain in the base plate.:o

havoc7usmc
November 25, 2007, 09:31 PM
Hello Gents,
I'm curious about why some guns can or can't fire high/low brass. What's the diff and why. I'm just starting to cut my teeth on shotguns and this seems to be the only place I can get correct info. Don't mean to be a pain in the base plate.:o

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