Damascus build set with Titanium Recon Frame


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deezulsmoke
November 24, 2007, 11:43 AM
I have to share this set. It became available to me recently . It is very rare that I get a set like this into the shop without a customer attached to it. That is why it will not look any different for a while, there is no build spec yet. I just have it sitting out for looking at as the slide has some of the most interesting patterns that I have seen on a Damascus slide in a long time. Very balanced and not shouting out at you, but kind of an understated elegance. Anyway, here is the lousy pics. I am going to have to spend a day, all day, playing with this camera until I can at least get pictures I am not afraid to post. Will be fun to see what this looks like when it gets a Pappa and is finally spec'd out!and completed. I tried to make it a Christmas present to myself but I heard a loud voice crying out of the wilderness of the house to the shop saying "Don't even think abiut it!".So.....

Jess

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AndyC
November 24, 2007, 01:39 PM
Pretty! Caspian components?

I'd make an offer but I prefer to keep certain body parts functional & fully-attached...

hankdatank1362
November 24, 2007, 02:41 PM
I don' think something that greaceful and elegant should be mated to a 1911 frame with a rail on the dustcover. I esp don't like it when the stirrup cut isn't perfectly fluch witht the rail.


But the slide is gorgeous!

GunNut
November 24, 2007, 06:01 PM
Wow, can't wait to see the finished product.

brigadier
November 24, 2007, 07:07 PM
Cool. That's actually called Pattern Weld Steel, though it looks allot like Damascus. Very pretty. I would love to make a Beretta slide out of pattern weld steel, but it's way too expensive!
BTW.
I have a friend who wants a gun barrel made out of true damascus and he is willing to supply the metal. He'll probably give you some true damascus for doing it. True Damascus is HARD to come by. It ha also has the best balance between hardness and flexibility on earth.

deezulsmoke
November 25, 2007, 01:01 PM
The front of the slide can be cut by doing "Ball Cuts" to match the frame. Or we can just take that bit of frame off. If you look at the Wilson sight, you will see that he just puts a nice taper on the rail. I would take it either way. The problem is that Caspian Titanium is now "unobtanium" so we have to take what we can get. And the prices to build this gun are not that high. I am selling all of the parts at cost and one total very reasonable labor charge. I want to get it built and some advertising mileage out of it, so the person that would be gettog the gun is getting a screaming deal on a damascus build. If you are interested, just let me know off line.

Jess

Jess

brigadier
November 27, 2007, 05:49 PM
Well, my first question, how much is that gun? When last I checked, both Pattern welded steel (what that slide is made of) AND true damascus (whenever you can find it), ran for between $10 and $50 per square inch depending on the thickness of the metal, pattern and maker.
I recently priced a piece of true Damascus bar stock to make a Samurai Katana out of, which is just a tad bit more metal then it takes to make a 1911 slide, and it was just under $800, and that's the metal alone.
BTW.
Just a point of clarity, pattern weld steel is the twisted and folded stuff that you get all the pretty patterns out of. It looks wonderful, but the mechanical properties are nothing past the norm. Damascus steel is a form of wootz steel which also has a pattern but it's naturally formed. Damascus steel contains microscopic fibers with a 1.9% corbon content. The micro fibers have an RC hardness reaching in to the mid and late 60s while the rest of the metal is in the late 50s. For combination and balance of flexibility and hardness, it's the best thing their is. Additionally, it has one extra advantage if used for making a blade which is what it was most used for throughout history. The micro fibers also wear unevenly throughout the blades use which basically means that the micro serration that is put on the blade when sharpened is replaced with another layer a few times before the edge is warped. In other words, damascus blades hold a cutting edge much longer then other blades.
In gun making, true damascus can take a great deal more beating then normal metals but having a 1.9% corbon content, the metal will be very quick to rust if not polished and maintained. I am no real expert on metallurgy but I seam to recall that one of the 2 metals they usually use in pattern welding is T-30 alloy. This be the case, pattern welded steel should be fairly non-corrosive.

GunNut
November 27, 2007, 06:06 PM
Well, my first question, how much is that gun? When last I checked, both Pattern welded steel (what that slide is made of) AND true damascus (whenever you can find it), ran for between $10 and $50 per square inch depending on the thickness of the metal, pattern and maker.

From Caspian Arms website:

Government Damascus

Caspian machines slides from our own pre-heat treated, barstock. We machine them hard to insure dimensional stability. Caspian offers more options than anyone so you can get the exact slide you want.

PLEASE NOTE: OUR SLIDES ARE ALL DRILLED FOR 38s FIRING PINS, THIS HELPS PREVENT PRIMER FLOW.

Specify Caliber: 45acp, 38s/9mm, 40sw/10mm

MATERIAL IMPORTED FROM SWEDEN - MACHINED IN AMERICA

Retail: $682.50

brigadier
November 27, 2007, 08:30 PM
I'm not rich but if I start doing allot better then I am, I will keep you guys in mind. In the ming time, let me know if you can make a rifled gun barrel from a piece of bar stock as I DO have a friend who is wanting one made, and he'll provide the metal.

tekarra
November 27, 2007, 09:03 PM
Very nice.
Would like to do a build like that some day.

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