Beretta 92FS vs. CZ75


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wisocki
November 29, 2007, 10:29 PM
I am stuck between these two guns. I will get one or the other. Does anyone have both? Give me your opinions, and try to convince me.

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Devonai
November 29, 2007, 10:42 PM
If you need a concealment pistol that can also be a duty pistol, go for the CZ.

If you need a duty pistol that can also be a bedside/home defense/range pistol, go for the 92FS.

That's not to say that the CZ can't do all of those things too, but concealing a 92FS is no fun in warmer weather. Otherwise they are equal in most respects.

ZeSpectre
November 29, 2007, 11:02 PM
I'd send you towards the CZ but I'll also admit to a bad experience with early model 92 guns so maybe I'm not the best to ask. (Plus I prefer .40 S&W guns)

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/zespectre/CZ-75_Bullseye.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/zespectre/CZ-75bSatin_001.jpg

armoredman
November 29, 2007, 11:04 PM
I loved using the rental 92FS at the range, great shooting pistol, but far to bulky for me to conceal, and I used to conceal a full size Witness. I carry a CZ PO1 now, great CCW piece for me.

ROCK6
November 29, 2007, 11:06 PM
I own a CZ-85 and carried my Beretta M9 for the past 15 months in Iraq. Both are quality guns, but I much prefer the CZ over the Beretta. It has full-length rails and inherently more accurate. It has steel vice aluminium frame. It can be carried locked-and-cocked (ala 1911) or DA; it can come with different variations for DAO and with a decocker, but I prefer the former SA/DA-cocked/locked option.

As already mentioned, the external dimenions are greater with the Beretta. It'll wear fine on a drop-leg or external holster, but pretty bulky for IWB or concealed carry. The CZ is a full-sized pistol as well, but with a more svelt design lending itself to better concealed carry.

I would think accessories are pretty much a draw, but there's a lot of Beretta stuff out there.

If it was me, I would choose the CZ over the Beretta...well, actually I did:)

ROCK6

The Lone Haranguer
November 29, 2007, 11:07 PM
If you need a concealment pistol that can also be a duty pistol, go for the CZ.

If you need a duty pistol that can also be a bedside/home defense/range pistol, go for the 92FS.
Agreed. The Beretta is lighter, but thick and bulky (mostly in the wide slide) for concealed carry IMO. Both guns, uncocked and in the DA-first-shot mode, have excessive trigger reaches for me, but the CZ can be carried "cocked and locked."

wisocki
November 29, 2007, 11:08 PM
It is not for conceal and carry. I will be putting a ridiculous emount of rounds through it. I would also like some accuracy.

The Lone Haranguer
November 29, 2007, 11:18 PM
It is not for conceal and carry. I will be putting a ridiculous emount of rounds through it. I would also like some accuracy.
The Beretta will have a better out-of-the-box single-action trigger. Durability and mechanical accuracy between the two is probably a wash.

Ohen Cepel
November 29, 2007, 11:23 PM
Tough choice.

I have both and like them about the same. Couldn't really decide a winner there.

Beretta has plentiful inexpensive mags which is nice and I think more after-market parts/accessories.

I would go with the one that fits your hand and need the best.

Timthinker
November 29, 2007, 11:34 PM
I would like to add something to ROCK6's comment. If Czechoslavika had fallen into the hands of the Western Allies in 1945, you would not ask us to choose between the two.:D CZ has made progress since its initial forays into the Western markets. If it had not been a member of the Eastern Bloc, then it would have developed a quality reputation much sooner. Speculation? Yes, but enlightened speculation.

If I were given a choice between the two, I would vote CZ for reliability and concealment. Now, the Beretta is not a bad choice for your purposes; the CZ is just a better one.


Timthinker

Deacon Blues
November 29, 2007, 11:41 PM
Well, if you'll be shooting it a lot, then you'll get through the CZ's gritty trigger (one of the few downsides) rather quickly. I think either would suit you, but the CZ is my choice for ergonomics and aesthetics. Either one will be plenty accurate for you, I'm sure. Just get some trigger time with both and let your hands make the decision for you.

CZF
November 29, 2007, 11:46 PM
Armor, only until the next batch of P-06 .40 guns come in:)

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb26/czrami/czbest06m.jpg

schmeky
November 29, 2007, 11:52 PM
I would also like some accuracy.

That makes the choice a little easier. I had a 92 many years ago and really liked it. But it was just to big for a hi-cap 9mm. Sold it.

My CZ 75 is a tack driver. It is sleeker than a 92. The CZ is more ergonomic for me. The CZ has been dead nuts reliable, for me. I will not part with my CZ.

Yea, CZ.


http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j235/schmeky/HPIM0186resixe.jpg

bl4ckd0g
November 29, 2007, 11:55 PM
I much prefer the Beretta 92FS over a CZ75B. I think the CZ grips are too narrow for my ape-like hands, and the Beretta just has a better overall feel.

To be honest, I still didn't like the CZ75B trigger after it was broken in and polished up after 2,000 rounds. Still felt kind of gritty and clunky.

If you're in a $$ crunch, then I'd also suggest the Taurus clones of the Beretta 92's. They are just as reliable and their safety is located on the frame instead of the slide.

buttrap
November 30, 2007, 12:00 AM
The steel frame on the CZ-75 tends to sell me over the alum frame on the Beretta types.

10-Ring
November 30, 2007, 01:55 AM
My preference is w/ the 92fs

ajoker31
November 30, 2007, 07:03 AM
I have both. They are both dead on accurate.

92fs:
Pro's:
Smooth action and trigger
nice finish

Con's
A bit bulky and heavy...but I prefer heavy.

Mod's:
replaced the plastic recoil rod and trigger with steel
Did light trigger job and threw in a lighter hammer spring
Installed Hogue finger groove grips

CZ75b single action

Pro's:
Cheaper and more ergonomic

Con's
Less refined, tool marks, finish is just ok
light trigger creep with slight grittiness

Mod's
Installed fiber optic adjustable target sights....love em.
Installed lighter hammer spring and custom grips

My 92fs Inox is my baby, the CZ is my beater range/target gun which gets the majority of range time over everything else. Both are very accurate. If this pistol is going to serve as a home defense gun I'd go with the 92fs because I've had a few reliability issues with CZ's. If it's a range gun, I'd go CZ because it's cheaper and may have a slight accuracy edge.

Joker

gcrookston
November 30, 2007, 07:49 AM
cz would be my choice between the 2. Sig or HK would be my preference.

Litlman
November 30, 2007, 08:04 AM
I shot both & liked both but, liked the CZ's more. That's why I have two of them , an 85c & 75 compact. Traded off my 75 BD for a S&W 6906 just for a change of pace.

1BLINDREF
November 30, 2007, 08:59 AM
I have both and like both very much. Both are great durable guns. My CZ75 is a tack driver and the 92 is not too far behind.
As far as which one for you, I'd go with the one that you shoot best.
I think both are a little too big for CCW. The CZ would probably be a little easier, but not much.

tbtrout
November 30, 2007, 09:04 AM
Having used both I prefer the CZ. The 92 is a good gun, with a fine reputation, it just does not do it for me. My CZ feels better in the hand is more accurate.

DMK
November 30, 2007, 09:09 AM
I've owned a CZ-75B for about 6 years and I have a friend who has had a Beretta 92 for about 4. We've both compared them side by side. He loves the Berretta and won't give it up for anything. I love the CZ and won't give it up for anything. I think it boils down to personal preference. We both just like the feel of our own guns better than the other. They are both really good guns, 100% reliable and shoot exceptionally well. The only thing I have on him is cost. He paid twice what I did.

http://mysite.verizon.net/dmk0210/myarms/cz75b-1.jpg

Joe Demko
November 30, 2007, 09:57 AM
I had a Beretta for many years. There's nothing wrong with the 92. I like the shape of the CZ75's grip better and I like that it is a bit more svelte. I've a notion that the CZ might hold up better with extensive firing, but nothing empirical to back that up. I sold off my 92 because I liked the CZ just enough better that the 92 was seeing no use at the range at all.

jeff-10
November 30, 2007, 01:17 PM
I loved the ergonomics and trigger of my CZ-75B. However it had reliability issues and it is the only gun I have gotten rid of. I do though believe I purchased a lemon and am considering buying a new one.

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