I just ordered one of these this morning...I love my C&R (or hate it...not sure which...it sure is expensive).
Here's the email
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 11:43 AM
Subject: Romanian TT-33 Pistols now available to 03 C&R Holders...
Thanks to a recent BATF Clarification, we are now able to sell the Romanian TT-33 pistols to 03 C&R holders.
click here for more info
Originally designed by the Russians as the Soviets standard service pistol for WWII, these TT-33 Tokarev pistols were manufactured by Romania during the Cold war. They share a similar design to John Browning's 1911 automatic pistol. Refinished to Excellent condition. Includes a total of 2 original 7rd magazines.
And you can't be serious about the ugly comment? Think Hi-Point, almost anything French or Japanese...or a Glock
November 30, 2007, 02:09 PM
I acquired a russian one about 5 years ago from an estate for $75. The slide was reblued and the barrel a bit pitted & dark but what a shooter. I may treat it to new springs someday ! triguy
November 30, 2007, 02:31 PM
I just saw that gun in the movie "Hard Boiled"! I guess it must have been the Chinese version though.
Great movie and now I want that gun.
Does it shoot well? How does it feel when you shoot with it?
November 30, 2007, 03:46 PM
Most likely it was refinnished by the angry drunk monkey that does the refinnishing at Century Arms. So it will have been ground unevenly first to remove the rust pitting it had all over it.
Ask before you buy.
November 30, 2007, 06:34 PM
and took a look and was tempted. But I didn't pull the trigger.
I'm thinking - $209... I've got a 95 Nagant - cool, but I dont' shoot it much (really horrible trigger) and I've got a Cz52 - which is really a much better design for the cartridge... I don't know - if this were a Russian or just didn't have the damned saftey installed, I'd be more tempted. Or was $159 or so...
November 30, 2007, 06:50 PM
I'm a little tempted too but I think I'm going to hold out and hopefully find out without the huge century bill board on the side.
December 4, 2007, 01:30 PM
I think I'll bite on one.
December 4, 2007, 10:08 PM
I have one of these and a Russian. GREAT guns! Good prices! I got one of these "before" they were deemed C&R. I should have waited, but then I wouldn't be telling you how nice these are now.
December 4, 2007, 11:36 PM
I have a Polish TT-33 , its a fun blaster .
December 5, 2007, 04:35 PM
Took the TTCs that I purchased from J&G Sales to the range a couple of weeks ago along with my CZ52. The Polish TTC has very little wear while the Romanian has some marks on the right side below the slide that could either be the result of a bad reblue job or holster wear but overall I would rate as VG.
Both pistols performed flawlessly with 50 rounds of both RSA South African ammo (that gives my CZ52 problems due to its hard primers) and S&B. The Romanian has a lighter trigger pull with a POI=POA. The Polish model is a bit less accurate with POI to the left of POA. Both of them are more accurate than my CZ52.
Since the Romanian comes with an extra mag and is $60 cheaper (the Polish ones have cracked grips unless you pay an extra $10 for one that does not) I'd opt for it if you are going to get only one.
December 5, 2007, 09:10 PM
You guys had better not buy all these up; within the coming year, I am definitely getting my C&R, and wanna pick up one of these when I do, so hands off! :P
December 11, 2007, 09:53 PM
Mine will be here Thursday. Will report on condition and gloat if appropriate.
December 12, 2007, 12:09 AM
I'm on the fence whether to get one... anyone have one? really like? hate?
Great shooter according to the guys from Box O' Truth:
December 13, 2007, 05:45 PM
It arrived this afternoon. It was dripping wet with oil. After a quick wipedown, I have to say it's a nice looking piece. The refinishing was done competently. The bore looks new. It came with two magazines, a surplus(looking) leather flap holster with lanyard and cleaning rod, and two magazines. I dry fired it a couple times and the trigger is darned nice, especially for a surplus com-bloc piece. I won't get a chance to go to the range for a while, but when I do I'll report back on performance.
December 15, 2007, 03:00 PM
Okay, I tore the TT-33 and magazines apart and gave everything a bath in hot Ballistol solution. A huge amount of oil, cosmoline residue and other slop floated off. After drying, I inspected everything.
The Good News:
1. Internally the gun shows no evidence of ever having been fired. The piece is virtually new inside.
2. Everything came apart and went back together the way it is supposed to without problems.
3. The gun is tight in the good sense of the word. The slide, frame, and barrel all fit snugly together without excess play.
The Bad News:
1. Under the refinishing, there is pitting visible consistent with the gun having been left in a (possibly wet) holster for an extended period. Although the refinishing was done competently, the gun does not look new externally.
2. The spare magazine that was incuded with the gun is lacking a part. I don't know the proper name for it, but it is a little piece of sheet metal with a tab on it. It goes between the magazine spring and floorplate and holds the floorplate in place. The magazine is okay for range use without it, but I'll try to fabricate a replacement.
3. The holster and lanyard that were included aren't good for much but display. The leather is old and wasn't stored properly. I've applied reconditioner, but they won't ever be fit for real use. (Amusing note: my wife is from Ukraine. She hooked the lanyard to the pistol and told me "This is for when moscali is drunk and drops pistolet, he not lose.")
I test fired the piece today with 25 rounds of S&B non-corrosive commercial ammo. Function was flawless. Recoil is almost nil. The military sights were not incredibly friendly to my middle aged eyes. The sights were properly regulated for elevation at 25 yards. The piece threw a couple inches right at that range and on the next trip I'll drift the rear sight to correct for it.
7.62x25 is a surprisingly hot round, even in commercial loading. The rounds I fired left some rather dramatic craters in the steel targets for such a soft recoiling round.
If it were possible to carry this gun safely with a round chambered, I'd wouldn't feel ill-prepared with it as an EDC piece.
July 29, 2009, 08:25 PM
I just picked one up at a Virginia gun show two weeks ago. It cost me $200 and came with the two magazines, holster and cleaning rod. My gun is brand new (for a 1953 vintage piece) inside and out. There is no pitting and the barrel looks like it has never been shot. If the serial numbers did not match I would swear it was a replacement. :) The holster looks like it was never issued either. I bought a box of 72 corrosive Romanian rounds at the show, but now I think I will ditch them for new non-corrosive ones.
I was looking for a cheap gun to keep in the trunk of the car (I was held up on the side of the road at knife point while fixing a flat tire) I looked at revolvers in .380/ .38spl and they were just too small for my hand to feel comfortable holding. I almost bought a big frame .357 S&W, but it was too large a gun for my intended use. This onne was too cheap and felt 'right' I could not pass it up
I think it is a pretty gun, It looks like a Colt 1903, purposeful and sinister.
You want to say "Die Capitalist Scum" when you pull it out of the holster!
I did have to give the gun a good cleaning as the action was STIFF when I got it. After field stripping it and oiling it up with Remington spray oil, it works nicely. I will be taking it to the NRA indoor range this week to get at least a couple magazines through it.
I have heard that the recoil was pretty hard on these guns and that the muzzle flash is more like that of an AK than a Colt. I will let you know how it handles.
I am glad I found this site :D
July 29, 2009, 09:11 PM
I bought a box of 72 corrosive Romanian rounds at the show, but now I think I will ditch them for new non-corrosive ones.[QUOTE]
No need. The Romanian ammo functions fine. Just thoroughly clean your barrel and breechface with hot soapy water and then oil as normal before putting the gun away after shooting.
[QUOTE]I have heard that the recoil was pretty hard on these guns and that the muzzle flash is more like that of an AK than a Colt. I will let you know how it handles.
Not at all. Recoil is tamer than I expected and not hard on the gun. You will get thousands of rounds through thte gun w/o damaging it. The AK comparison doesn't really make sense.
Enjoy your pistol!
July 29, 2009, 09:15 PM
Holy necro, batman!
July 30, 2009, 09:15 AM
"Holy necro" yes, but great to someone using the search function for a topic that's been done previously.
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