I'm wondering...of those of us civilians who legally carry a concealed firearm... How many have had to actually draw their weapon during a "situation" outside of home defense?
I'm not asking if you actually fired, but simply were forced to draw your weapon. I'm not concerned with "I almost did..." or "in another minute I would have..." situations, though I know they exist.
As far as detailing the situation when you reply - it's up to you, but please only explain the situation if you actually drew your weapon.
Fortunately, I have never had to draw mine...
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November 30, 2007, 10:57 AM
I have not been in a situation where I needed to draw mine and hope I never am.
November 30, 2007, 11:14 AM
I'll reserve my vote until you answer my question :neener:
In my mind there are 2 distinct possiblities with a very fine line to the question of "have you had to draw your weapon?"
#1 - threat definately coming, no choice but to draw and engage; or to a lesser degree...threat possible, taking no chances; draw weapon and let it be known you are armed and potential perp should back off NOW.
#2 - things could get hairy; draw weapon and keep it to yourself as you hastily find a way out of the situation, but want to be immediately armed as you do so. In the end, no one knew you had a weapon in hand and you beat it out of there unscathed.
#2 has happened a few times to me. #1 not yet. You tell me if #2 qualifies for what you are asking and I'll vote.
My guess is that others who have been carrying for very long would like the same information...:D
November 30, 2007, 11:15 AM
November 30, 2007, 11:33 AM
I answered Yes but it was before handgun carry was strictly legal.
It was during an attempted Quick Stop robbery. Long story. No shots fired.
November 30, 2007, 11:37 AM
I drew my weapon when a road-rager came at me with a tire iron about a year or so ago. He retreated as soon as he saw I was armed.
November 30, 2007, 11:39 AM
A rifle once, never a pistol I was carrying.
November 30, 2007, 11:55 AM
I've never had to but, there have been a few times I placed my hand on my sidearm . The person I was dealing w/ didn't know because when I repo we have a talker (my partner) and me as the back up in case anything goes wrong. With my sidearm in the 4 o'clock position I can cock my body to the side and block their vision of it. I hope I don't ever have to draw it..... :eek:
November 30, 2007, 12:04 PM
Ummm....why did you ask this in the autoloader sub-forum rather than in the general handgun sub-forum. There are plenty of people who carry revolvers who might have had more to contribute to this poll.
Personally, I carry both a semi-auto and a wheel-gun (not simultaneously). I have been carrying for 2 years and have never had to draw on a threat. The closest I came was when I was carrying at home last week and a heavy baking pan fell over in the kitchen and I could have sworn it sounded like someone at the front door so I drew my gun and approached just to check it out.
November 30, 2007, 12:14 PM
Draw: Once, was in vehicle and someone was attempting to break in. Drew weapon and he backed off.
Once also had to put hand on weapon but not draw.
November 30, 2007, 12:22 PM
I haven't yet draw my pistol ut I did pulls a shotgun on a feller who wanted to leave after he purposly pushed over my mailbox...A.H LOL
November 30, 2007, 12:44 PM
Yes, but it was at my home.
Someone was attempting to break into an enclosed area where I kept a motorcycle when I appeared at the window with a handgun.
Once he saw it, he couldn't get out of there fast enough.
November 30, 2007, 12:50 PM
igpoobah - your #2 question would qualify, though I will admit that I hadn't thought of drawing a concealed weapon and have it not be seen. I know it's possible, I just hadn't considered it for the question.
19-3Ben - no real reason as to why I didn't put it in the general section other than I own/carry a revolver and I'm thinking of buying an autoloader and was in that forum at the time when the question crossed my mind. You are correct in that it could be applied to both/all.
November 30, 2007, 01:04 PM
yes... but only due to the #2 situation above.
never drew down on a person thankfully.
November 30, 2007, 05:00 PM
No. In 13 years as a permit holder, I have never pulled.
I was in one situation right before I got my permit, in my vehicle late at night downtown, a guy approached my car and lifted the passenger-side door handle, which was locked. I started the car and drove away, but as I replay it in my mind, I wonder if I would have pulled.
November 30, 2007, 07:03 PM
Thankfully I could vote no on this poll.
I believe that the only time I would draw my weapons is if I intended to pull the trigger. My gun is not a deterrent device, if I pull my gun on a assailant in a self defense scenario that means I felt my life was in danger and the attacker would be on the ground before he knew what hit him. Even if I felt threatened I would keep my gun holstered and try to get away, if there was no place to go and seemingly no other alternative then I might have to draw.
Of course this is only the mindset that I try to maintain, never been in a situation that has required me to consider drawing so I can't say with any certainty how I'd react. However I never want to draw my gun on anyone and I really hope I never have to either.
November 30, 2007, 08:12 PM
Yes, a number of times in South Africa - which speaks for itself :rolleyes:
November 30, 2007, 09:38 PM
Yes...once, didn't have to use it thank God.
November 30, 2007, 10:19 PM
Never. It does seem wise to pull the gun and have it ready (Unknown) if "bad looking people" are approaching, have it out and ready. Watching "The first 48" on A&E I see a lot of homicides where both were armed, and the first one who got his gun up was the guy who survived. I want the first shot to be mine. I hope it never comes to that.
November 30, 2007, 10:43 PM
The closest I came was after checking into a Holiday Inn in Tifton, GA about 15 years ago. It was 2AM and my room turned out to be on the back side of this motel, which was just off the interstate.
Out of nowhere appeared a "brother" in a hooded black sweatshirt, pants and jogging shoes.
I was carring a bag towards my room, which had an outside entrance.
"Say main, you need some help carryin' your stuff," he asked, as he came nearer.
I reached in the bag and wrapped my hands around my Model 65 3" S&W .357 . . . glared at him sternly in the eyes and said the sailor's version of, "Get the flock out of my face NOW!"
I'm sure he wondered if I was bluffing, or whether my hand was on a knife or a gun. Luckily for both of us, he chose not to find out!
PS: I called the front desk and requested a front room, per my initial reservation. They accomodated me. Fifteen minutes later, I relocated to the other side of the large motel.
Guess who I saw roaming around on THAT side too? This time, he didn't approach me though!
BGs want soft targets. And . . . they'd like us ALL unarmed . . . if they can get the dems to go along with 'em!
November 30, 2007, 11:24 PM
I pulled but never showed them what. A group of young people tried to car-jack me at a gas station. I sat down into the car drawing as I went backwards. One of them on the far side must have seen me pull my G32, since he yelled at the leader to run away. I called 911 and they were caught pulling two girls out of a Grand Am up the block at Mc Donalds. Thank the man upstairs that it only went as far as it did, 5 BG's busted, good enough for me.
December 1, 2007, 12:01 AM
I have had to draw my weapon twice. Thankfully I have never had to pull the trigger.
December 1, 2007, 12:18 AM
i almost drew over the summer. i was forced to ealier this week.
i take the bus mon-fri at 6am to work. this past tuesday, some guy was walking down the street, hood down, hands swinging at his sides. i watched him of course, and he saw me looking. he started to cross the street, and walk towards me, picking up the pace. when i saw him put his hands in his pockets, i said loudly, "what's up, dude?" he put his head down, and his hands shifted in his pocket, and he kept walking at me. i then said "hold it there, man." he laughed, and was about 30' away. i had oc spray, but like an idiot, i put it in my bag. i decided better safe than sorry, so i drew my pocket pistol, a little cobra .380, and yelled at him "BACK THE F@&% UP!" the guy finally looked up, said "holy s%!#!", and took off down the street. he still had one hand in his pocket. my hands were shaking until 8am.
i normally carry a S&W 9VE on my right hip. i bought the cobra on a lark, more out of nostalgia than necessity; i had a similar gun when i was a young punk, and i thought "wow, how cool would it be to have a saturday night special next to my other guns?" it cost me less than $100. it's small, so i figured it wouldn't hurt to pocket carry it.
good decision, huh?
December 1, 2007, 01:34 AM
I was accosted by someone at a carwash one fall day, said we were old school buddies. Told him I went to school out of state. I spoke clearly and confidently so the person went away. Oh yeah he did notice my hand in my pocket holding a 642, wondered "why I had to be like that" (not a victim).
Been told a few times a civilian carrying a bug is paranoid. Still here to listen.
Also use an ankle holster. Try getting a 1911 out of a 4 o'clock position wearing a winter coat and seatbelt.
December 1, 2007, 01:58 AM
Had to pull once when a pitbull charged my dog on our walk. Didn't have to fire since she just dropped low and brought up her growl from the depths of hell. Pit decided he wasn't that interested and wandered back up into his yard. Truth be known, my girl is a half dane, half healer and wouldn't have stood a chance, but she's got 'tude like you wouldn't believe. Stopped carrying that P32 that day, I remember as I drew thinking, "this is a 32."
Funny thing about that gun, my neice took a shine to it. Other than my 22's it was the only pistol she would shoot, so when she went off to college I gave it to her. One night walking home after dark she noticed a guy following her. She made several turns on the trail, but he just kept on, getting a little closer all the time. Finally she made a turn behind a tree and when he made it he ran nose first into that little pistol. He turned around and ran off without saying a word. Tends to hint that he wasn't up to any good. Since then she's graduated up to a 9, but I'm sure glad she had that little 32 that day.
December 1, 2007, 02:03 AM
No. 2 situation mentioned above. I was sitting in the back of a friend's car waiting for the cops to show up (long story short involving a $3k scarlet mccaw). 11ish or so at night, and some guy decides to start walking up on the car with something in his hand (not the best neighborhood). My 3913 LS was in my had near my ankle, guy turned out to be a concerned citizen holding a mag-lite, and clearly very intoxicated.
December 1, 2007, 08:45 AM
It was dark thirty on a wintry December evening; and as I was leaving work,
an unknown BM stepped out from behind an adjacent buidling (and near my
vechile), totally unexpected. He said too me, "Man I've been waiting on you
for a long damn time; its 'bout time you showed up". With him approaching
with both hands in his pockets, and a wild-eyed look on his face; I drew my
old model S&W model 60 (.38 Special) from an IWB holster, and ordered this
idiot to take his hands out of his pocket and to move gently away from my
vechile. After seeing that I really meant business, he stepped backwards
on to the sidewalk and quickly vanished. After this character complied with
my commands, I decided that there was NO HARM and NO FOUL; and since
NO SHOT's had too be fired, I also departed the area until my next tour to
duty at the gunshop.
December 1, 2007, 09:23 AM
I was checking into a hotel room, one of those that have entrances facing outside, and as I was about to insert the card key, into the door, caught some movement, with my periferial vision to my right. I thought I saw something move out & back into the stairwell, three doors down, that I had just traveled through. After looking that direction for a minute or two I dismissed it as a bird or maybe something else. I stuck the key card into the door, turned the handle, pushed the door open and bent down to grab my bags when, out of that same stairwell, came a very sizeable man, at a fast pace, in my direction, raising something above his head. I turned to face him drawing my stainless Springfield Champion from my IWB holster and I raised it to eye level and clicked off the thumb safery. By that time he was about 6 feet away and saw the gun. This guy must have been 300+lbs. but he made a 180, like a halfback and disappeared back down that stairwell as quickly as he came. I ran to the opening and could hear his shoes slapping the pavement as he exited the property, into a wooded area. I immediately called the police and front desk clerk. I am so glad that he turned around as I was already starting to put tension on the trigger. After it was all over, I made my report to the police, and then found out this had happened before with not such positive results. I went into my room and had a millon things going through my mind....needless to say it was a sleepless night.
December 1, 2007, 09:44 AM
No never. Never even came close. I have always been able to withdrawal or avoid situations before I had to draw.
December 1, 2007, 09:56 AM
Sight of a .25 deterred a bum with a knife in broad daylight wanting my money. Didn't have to fire the weapon, thank God. If I did anything wrong, it was looking too much like an obvious tourist. Was just walking down the street. You just never know.
This happened 25 years ago in Galveston, Texas and there was no such thing as a CCW at the time. The .25 was about the only thing a guy could carry with complete concealment back then. As it was a class A misdemeanor to get caught with a weapon, you didn't really wanna have to shoot. Even a mouse gun can save your hide, though.
December 1, 2007, 10:04 AM
Less than a year ago, I was jogging in my neighborhood around 4:30AM. I was less than a tenth of a mile from my house when I came upon three or four guys (could not see clearly) moving down the street breaking into cars. I did a 180 and ran the other way. Being turds, they shot several times at me. I drew my own weapon, but rounded a corner and got out of the line of fire, returned to my house, and called the police. I could have shot back, but I am glad I did not have to.
December 1, 2007, 11:52 AM
I have been carrying since Texas passed the CHL law. Thankfully, I have NEVER had to draw my weapon!! But.....the need to carry still exists and always will.
December 1, 2007, 12:22 PM
No....I've had a few road rage incidents where in one case the guy follows me to a parking lot and confronts me...He was tail-gating and I put on the brakes to teach him a lesson...
As I got out of the car, he must of got wind of a size differential and decided maybe it wasn't a good idea....Never exposed my weapon....:)
December 1, 2007, 07:50 PM
Have had to on several occassions when I was LEO and off duty. Since I have retired I have never pulled it out.:uhoh:
December 2, 2007, 09:14 AM
Never had to and never hope to.
December 4, 2007, 06:17 PM
I stuck the key card into the door, turned the handle, pushed the door open and bent down to grab my bags when, out of that same stairwell, came a very sizeable man, at a fast pace, in my direction, raising something above his head. I turned to face him drawing my stainless Springfield Champion from my IWB holster and I raised it to eye level and clicked off the thumb safery. By that time he was about 6 feet away and saw the gun. This guy must have been 300+lbs. but he made a 180, like a halfback and disappeared back down that stairwell as quickly as he came. I ran to the opening and could hear his shoes slapping the pavement as he exited the property, into a wooded area. I immediately called the police and front desk clerk. I am so glad that he turned around as I was already starting to put tension on the trigger.
Mike, I got a chill when I read that. :eek: I'm glad no one was hurt, but I for one am so glad that we have the freedom to carry and put an end to situations that would possibly result in harm to ourselves, our loved ones, or innocent bystanders. This example, among others in this thread, are a very convincing argument for the continuation of the right to bear arms.
December 4, 2007, 09:05 PM
About 2 years ago I was living in New Mexico working at a local cell phone retailer in Albuquerque. As I was leaving for the night I decided to go ahead and make our nightly bank deposit. As I walked from the mall to my car, about 100 yards away a man started yelling at me. At first I didn't think much of it but his repeated yelling finally got my full attention with the words "I'm gonna get you". The man started yelling he was going to get me because he thought our company ripped him off with his cell phone. As he moved toward me he took out what looked to be a hunting knife and repeated his threat. I continued to move toward my car as quickly as possible without making it obvious I was really trying to get away from him. As I got to my car he started to pick up his pace slightly. Since at the time I did not have a CHL I kept my Israeli made .40 Baby Eagle in the glove compartment for quick access. I opened the door, grabbed the Eagle and racked the slide. At this point I verbally ordered him to go away. He only responded with a few choice words and raised his weapon slightly. I took a ready stance and made it very clear that I was armed. I yelled at him to drop his knife now. He still refused to comply so I began raising my weapon to take aim. At this point I think he finally got the hint. As he moved away I jumped in and quickly as possible drove away while calling police when I returned to meet the responding officer and give a statment the officer made it clear he would rather move to charge me with brandishing a weapon and concealing a deadly weapon without a license even though everything was kept within state requirements. NM law allows open carry in vehicle and allows for the unlocked storage of a firearm without need for a permit. But since he couldn't find a witness he took my statement and let me leave. So much for protecting ones-self.
December 5, 2007, 02:12 AM
I had taken my snubnose .38 out of my pocket and placed it in the console while I was driving. On the course of the trip a woman ran out onto the road with a man chasing her. She was screaming for help. I thought in my head that I should get my gun and I realized it was already in my hand. I watched the situation for a minute and realized it was a domestic dispute and this dumb broad had just about gotten her "baby's daddy" shot. nice. Neither one of them saw the gun or realized how much trouble they almost caused all of us.
December 5, 2007, 02:54 AM
No, I have been lucky. A few times I have put my hands on it when walking out of a store or restaurant. I really hope to never come across someone who forces me into that situation.
December 5, 2007, 02:59 AM
This shouldn't count, but I'll throw it out there anyway. Bachelor party for an LEO (I was best man). Adult entertainment was pawing at him a bit so he gives me his BUG (snubbie) which I unload - ammo in left pocket, gun in right (I'd had a few drinks, and it was WAY before concealed carry in Ohio).
This was in the basement of a tatoo parlor in a marginal part of town way after closing,and upstairs a guy comes and starts beating the stars out of the mostly glass door. I pulled the EMPTY .38 and just kind of crossed my arms so it was very obvious, walked up to the other side of the door and asked if I could help him. Looked at the gun and did a cartoon-style, bug-eyed double take, and took off running. I probably didn't handle it the right way (younger and dumber then), but it's a memory I enjoyed reliving, thanks...
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