[Topgun]

...he asked as Oleg's bandwidth exceeded AOL and his servers melted.



:D

[Sisco]

Absoutley not. No one has ever killed a deer with a 30.30
Everyone knows that to kill a deer you need a 300 Win Mag at a minimum.
What a stupid question.







:D

[CZ 75 BD]

kills deer with his 30-30 lever every year.

Has a golfer ever hit a hole in one from the tee?

:evil:

[Mal H]

... in other words, it has been estimated that more deer have been killed with the 30-30 than any other caliber around.

[45R]

:)

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[Tamara]

Heh...

Statistcally, more effectively than anything this side of Chronic Wasting Disease... :D

[TallPine]

Will a 30-30 kill a deer?

Definitely not!

My 30-30 just sits in the closet ... the lazy bastard.

It is ME that has to get up at 4.30 in the morning and drive an hour, then go sit out in the cold until Bambi walks by. Then I have to aim and pull the trigger. No, the 30-30 didn't kill the deer, I killed the deer.

Then the lazy rifle just leans against a tree while I do the hard and messy work.

Besides, I don't think they will sell a hunting license to a 30-30.

[JohnKSa]

Tallpine,

Exactly what I was thinking. I had one for years and it never did anything except when I was holding it. I'm thinking I should get the credit.

[plainsman66]

mine even downned several elk till someone convinced me I need an -06 to do that correctly!...........ya right!

[Moparmike]

Choose your deer hunting rifle caliber:

A. .243
B. 30-30
C. .300 Win Mag
D. .700 Nitro Express

I think you know which one you need...:D
In a pinch, a 155mm mounted on an M-1A2 Abrahms will work as well.

[Arcli9ht]

I dunno, that .700 Nitro Express may work for your small game, but I generally feel that you need to get into the 72 milimeter range to get proper penetration in the hide of an average white tail. Them things is made of kevlar I tell ya.

:neener:

/Arcli9ht

[Obiwan]

A deer...it depends

Hundreds/thousands....oh yeah...

Some people believe that particular caliber may have killed more deer than any other

[LeonCarr]

Hunting folklore says that the .30-30 has killed more deer than any other cartridge. I say that the .30-30 has killed more LEGAL deer than any other cartridge. I think that the .22LR has killed more deer than any else.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

[TimH]

45R....ROFLMAO

[Dr.Rob]

Hate to admit it in the 3 seasons I carried a 30-30, it killed NO deer. None.

It drew down on a few, and took a shot at an elk.

But it missed.

Now that I'm a better hunter the 30-30 could still kill a deer or two.

[PATH]

Nope! You really need to call in airstrikes! Barring an airstrike a minimum of .50 cal is necessary.:D

But as we all know if you don't have a Glock you'll never get that pesky deer!

[El Rojo]

My two .30-30's usually just stay in the gun safe and look pretty. I think I only have about 10 rounds for them on hand. I have too many other guns to go gunking up those old timers. Go figure, I would like to get a deer or some pigs this year with my M1 Garand or my Swiss K-31, but the .30-30 is just going to sit in the safe.

[4v50 Gary]

My father's 30-30 never killed a thing.:o

[MLC]

I'm thinking I may need to get one o them 30-30 pea shooters.
After toting around my Henry I've come to realize the inherent excellence of the lever action rifle. It's so thick with deer here I'd really only need the henry, or perhaps one in 22wmr(if it were legal).

[blue86buick]

The only thing my 30-30 has killed, and will kill, is gallon jugs of water, steel plates (makes nice holes!), pop cans/bottles (plastic), paper targets, clay pigeons, and similar targets. I'm not a hunter, only because I don't eat venison, not because I won't shoot animals...but boy, the 30-30 sho is fun to plink with! :D

[RustyHammer]

.50 Cal BMG ... MINIMUM!

:what:

[sebago]

The three most important words in deer hunting: penetration, penetration, penetration. In the 100 plus years since the .30-30's introduction deer have developed much thicker hides and a much heavier bone structure. Everyone knows this, I'm surprised you'ed even ask such a silly question. That's why I bought a .375 H&H. :D

[MLC]

Sebago, you are absolutely right.
It is Darwins theory in action.
As the threat of being penetrated by projectiles has increased over the past couple thousand years, so has the preys natural defenses.
I another thousand or so their hair will have Kevlarlike properties.

[Baba Louie]

Topgun...

A lot of comedians here...

Let me ask you TG...

From how far?

Adios

[ninenot]

I have hit many a deer on the noggin with my .30-30 and have not yet succeeded in getting one to drop dead on the first blow.

In fact, all of them ran away and did not want to play any more.

I told my Mom and she said they were just brats.

[Feanaro]

In essence you are asking "will a bullet make a hole."

Not bashing you but a 30-30 will kill deer very well. It's more popular for deer in most places than 30-06 though your milage my vary. I prefer a fifty caliber myself though, some of those deer have been wearing Kevlar as of late. :D

[RustyHammer]

YES, but you have to crack them over the head with it two or three times. An axe works much better.

[ChairborneRanger]

I'd think that there is a good possibility that something more along the lines of a Ford Taurus, Toyota Camry, Chevy Silverado, Ford F-150, etc., has probably killed more deer than any old 30-30.

[buzz_knox]

No, a 30-30 cannot kill a deer. However, a human being using a 30-30 can.

:)

[LeonCarr]

Hey Chairborne,

Just keep in mind that those vehicles weren't around in 1895...The .30-30 was :).

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

[Mannlicher]

thats about the dumbest question I have seen in a firearms related BBS

[russlate]

Mannlicher:

if that's the dumbest you've seen, just keep reading ( mostly on the other forums ). The fact is, once you see a preponderance of that kind of stuff on a forum, you just quit reading that forum.

I applaud this thread. Not to say this forum gets stuffy, but a bit of fresh air doesn't hurt anything that I can tell.

[kentucky bucky]

personally I use a 577 nitro express with my granny's special "spine tingler"
explosive HEAT loads. Remember to cut the powder by 3 grains for squirrels.

[Alerion]

My car has killed more deer than Ted Kennedy's 30-30! :what:

Tom

[Feanaro]

However, a human being using a 30-30 can.

Actually the loss of blood and massive shock resulting from an object going through the animal at 500 FPS causes the death. If we are being technical. :neener:

[meathammer]

Will a .30-30 kill a deer? Absolutely.

However, it is not as effective as strategically placed salt licks and claymore mines.

:D

[Brad Johnson]

Hey, c'mon... don't you guys (and gals) know that no gun has EVER killed a deer. It's those darn bullets! The gun just makes them go really fast.

Brad

__________________________________

Guns don't kill, physics does.

[Snaps]

Yes, killed a doe last year:D

[seeker_two]

Yep.

Next question: Is the .30-06 useful in a combat situation? :scrutiny:

[natedog]

Does said dear **** in the woods? :D

[cameroneod]

Hunting folklore says that the .30-30 has killed more deer than any other cartridge. I say that the .30-30 has killed more LEGAL deer than any other cartridge. I think that the .22LR has killed more deer than any else.


Definately. :D :D :D

[Kharn]

Speaking of deer-overkill, a female friend of mine had her 21st birthday party this weekend, and her butter-bar (2nd Lt, M1A2 tank commander) boyfriend drove up from Fort Knox to attend the party. He brought along his laptop to show all the guys (and non-enviro-weenie girls) a really funny video.

During night exercises, the tankers use thermal sights to find their targets, well, at long range the heated part of the target is about the size of a deer. So, during the video there's a moving target going along, the gunner's tracking it with the main gun, and he pulls the trigger right as the target crosses between a deer standing on the range and the tank. (The deer on the base are notoriously stupid and will hang out right in the middle of live fire exercises)

He missed the target (it went over the top), but SPLATTERED the deer all over the place, you could see the giblets flying up in the air on the thermal scope.

The next day, the crew went out to where the target was, and then started looking behind it for the deer. All they found were four legs just sitting on the ground.

Now THAT proves the only 100% sure kill on a deer is a 120mm Sabot.

Kharn

[Atticus]

I'm not sure. Which is why I need a .35, .356. .375, 45/70...and maybe a coupla others.

[Smoke]

30-30's don't kill deer.

People kill deer.


:D :neener: :D

[Futo Inu]

Kharn, my friend who was a tanker in the army claims they exploded an errant cow once in a training exercise with an abrams main gun when the commander wasn't around, on purpose, just for spits and giggles. I wouldn't find that funny if I was the rancher who owned the cow, and told him as much.

Got another friend who killed a small woods whitetail couple years ago with a .17 HMR to the neck. He claimed it didn't even take a step. Peeps are not too keen on following all the hunting regs in that part of the state; less'n they get caught anyway. I'm sure many go down to .22lr as mentioned.

[Kharn]

Futo Inu: From what happened to that deer, I dont think the rancher could have even proved there was a cow to begin with after the impact (assuming somebody picked up the hooves).

Kharn

[DorGunR]

Gawd.........this is more fun than comedy central.:D

Actually....the 30-30 cartridge has killed more deer than ALL other modern cartridges combined! ;)

[rock jock]

The venerated 30-30. The ammo so nice they named it twice.

[Joe Demko]

It will kill one from a plane
It will kill one from a train
It will kill one from car
It will kill one in a bar
It will kill one on the house
It will kill one like a grouse