"Independence" ammo


Corner Pocket
November 30, 2007, 08:13 PM
I swung by Sportsman's Warehouse today and saw that they have some 130 gr, FMJ .38 Special ammo for $8.50 per box of 50. This is the cheapest .38 Special ammo that I've seen in this area since I've been buying it. Just wondered if there are those of you out there who have shot this ammo, and what your assessment of it is. Thanks for any insight you'd like to offer.

BTW, this is Independence brand ammo that is produced by Ammunition Accessories, Inc. in Lewiston, Idaho, rather that somewhere in Brazil...

Corner Pocket

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November 30, 2007, 08:17 PM
I've used some of their budget 380 stuff. One FTF out of a box in a very reliable gun.

I'd buy it again in a pinch. I prefer Winchester White Box, Blazer Brass and Monarch Green Box.

November 30, 2007, 08:21 PM
I bought some Independence 45 ACP for my Colt 1911. Works great!

Corner Pocket
December 1, 2007, 07:17 AM
I appreciate the replies. I think I'll swing by there this afternoon and grab a few boxes of the Independence rounds to try in my SP-101... :)


The Lone Haranguer
December 1, 2007, 01:34 PM
I have used modest quantities in .40 (when I had a .40) and .45, no problems.

December 1, 2007, 01:46 PM
I'll shoot a box of it here and there.

Never gave me any problems. YMMV.

December 4, 2007, 10:15 AM
Ive fired 100 rounds of the independance 95 grain for a .380 and every round fired flawlessly

December 4, 2007, 10:30 AM
Don't know about the other calibers, but the case of Independence .45 ACP/230 FMJ that I bought didn't have jacketed bullets. They were copper-washed swaged lead. The ammunition worked perfectly in my pistols, and was accurate enough to engage the falling plate machine from 10 yards out to 25 yards. Didn't chronograph any of it, but going on seat-of-pants "feel" it seemed to be pretty hot with recoil levels on a par with my go-to reload consisting of a 230-grain jacketed bullet and 6 grains of Unique...which is a
USGI Hardball equivalent that clocks about 840 fps in a 5-inch barrel.

Overall, not bad ammo for the money. If the price was right, I'd buy more...but for about the same money, I can get Mag-Tech or Blazer Brass...for those rare occasions that I actually buy commercially produced pistol ammo.

December 4, 2007, 10:39 AM
As a side-note...I've seen an odd lot here and there of Blazer Brass with the copper-washed bullets. Most of it comes with true jacketed RN...but not all of it.

December 4, 2007, 10:54 AM
the owner of the range I work part time at sells tons of independance. he has told us from day 1 that independance is made by federal...dunno if its true but its cheep and runs pretty good in all my pistols

December 4, 2007, 11:10 AM
I believe i read some where that "Independence" is a line of re-manufactured ammo by Federal/ Speer ( the ATK corp.)....someone chime-in and let me know if I read and understood the following correctly:

CCI/Speer Independence™ CENTERFIRE AMMUNITION Ammunition Independence ammunition is manufactured using modern processes and new components specifically designed to offer lower cost, high value ammunition for target practice and recreational shooting. It is sourced from qualified manufacturers who comply with all dimensional and performance standards adopted by the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) and the Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers Institute (SAAMI). Independence ammunition provides a reliable and price competitive alternative to military surplus and off-shore sources that do not adhere to American industry standards.

F E A T U R E S & B E N E F I T S • Shellcases — New manufactured brass, fully reloadable.
• Primers — Traditional Boxer type for maximum sensitivity and ignition. Non-corrosive.
• Bullets — Full metal jacket for maximum feeding reliability and accuracy
• Packaging — Grid oriented, 50 count, sturdy plastic trays with cardboard cartons for maximum protection and convenience

New CCI Independence 9mm 115 grain Full Metal Jacket ammuntion. Excellent quality at a price you can afford.

Muzzle velocity: 1150 FPS
Muzzle energy: 338 foot pounds

RELIABILITY, PERFORMANCE, VALUE...The big three when it comes to sport shooting!

That's why CCI Independence pistol ammunition is ideal for all your recreations shooting needs.
Each cartridge is assembled using only the highest quality components and rigorous quality control is exercised in every stage of the manufacturing process.

The result?...AFFORDABLE value packed ammunition the delivers the top-notch performance you demand...shot after shot!!

EDIT: I found this on Northwest shooter's supply website and a couple other ammo dist. websites, all saying the same thing.

Jim Watson
December 4, 2007, 01:03 PM
I don't see where you get "remanufactured" out of that. New, new, new all the way through the press release.

Early Independence was from CBC, makers of Mag-Tech, but distributed by ATK/Federal/CCI. Seems like it has gotten cheaper for them to load it in-house.

December 4, 2007, 01:24 PM
JW, yeah, I didn't have enough coffee in my system when I typed that. I meant to edit it out, thanks!

December 4, 2007, 01:37 PM
us from day 1 that independance is made by federal..
Yes it is. I see that I've shot four boxes of 45 acp with no problems. The address is right for CCI/Speer and federal is under the ATK banner too. the individuals at a local gunshop lable it federal then call it Speer apparently just to confuse the customers and make them go away.

It seems in line with most other ball loads. Groups were a big on the large size from my 1911s but in line with expectations from this revolver.

December 4, 2007, 09:28 PM
Have had great luck with the .45, scary accurate in my Kimber.

Had a double charge in 9, scary scary in my sig 228.

December 4, 2007, 09:48 PM
that IS scary

December 5, 2007, 02:16 PM
I shoot 130gr .38 spcls in my old colts and have had no problems. The accuracy isn't match wad-cutter good, but it is more than good enough for practice and plinking. I don't think it is re-manufactured since they seem to use their own brass stamped *I*. It seems pretty clean too.

December 5, 2007, 03:35 PM
I've used it and never had a problem with it.

December 5, 2007, 03:37 PM
Used it in my Glock 17, no problems yet. Only been through two or three boxes of it, though.

Pine Cone
December 6, 2007, 12:29 AM
I've shot somewhere between 500 and 1000 rounds in 38 and 357 with no problems. I'd buy more but I can't find it around here.

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