Which .357


July 20, 2003, 07:08 PM
Since I've recently acquired a S&W625 I've fallen in love with sixshooters and while it's at S&W getting a new 4" tube, I figured I NEED a .357. Anyway, I used to have a GP100 that was great, but like a dumb*ss I sold it :banghead:(hindsight, ain't it a pain?). Anyway, this is what I've found and I'm having a hard time deciding.....

1. S&W 27 4"....looks practically unfired. $359

2. S&W 686 (pre-kiddie lock) 4" only one box of shells through her. $500 (but I think I can "dicker" it down a bit....what do you think I should offer?)

3. Ruger GP100 4" (stainless, adj sights) NIB $379

Which do you think I should go for? I had a Ruger and loved it, BUT S&W's in cherry shape without the kiddie lock are getting harder to find. Whaddaya think?



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Old Fuff
July 20, 2003, 07:22 PM
Fist of all, you should buy whatever YOU prefer ....

That said, it would appear the the S&W 27-4 is the best choice if you're looking for investment. Then too, S&W lavished more attention on the "27" and pre-27 then any other modern revolver. They all have, or should at least have, more attention to detail then the others. It would also be a good idea to get the serial numbers so you can find out approximately when they were made.

Look up Jim March's check out procedure, then go back and carefully examine each of the guns. If they all pass with flying colors pick the one you like best.

July 20, 2003, 08:52 PM
'Buy what you want' is excellent advice.

Just info: I have both a Smith 686 and Ruger KGP141, both in 4". There exists very little, if any difference in the performance of the two. Currently I have the Ruger set up for .38spl and the Smith set up for .357magnums for falling plate shoots. Choice of caliber was a flip of the coin. I happened to have the Ruger with when I had the .38spls with me so I set the sights up for .38spl. Same with the 686.

A while back I decided I only needed on 4" .357magnum with a 4" tube. I put them both up for sale, the Smith sold first, I kept the Ruger. About four months later the person who bought the Smith decided he didn't like revolvers and put the 686 up for sale. I bought it back and considered his short ownership a rental. Probably would have done the same had he bought the Ruger.

Both are excellent weapons and will serve you well. Is the Smith worth the extra money? I have no idea. It was to me when I bought it and I would do it again (in fact, I just added a Smith 66 to the line up). Just like revolvers and just like .357magnums.

Mark IV Series 80
July 20, 2003, 09:01 PM
I would get the 4 inch model 27. It's the best value of the bunch, and Smith doesn't make anything as nice these days.

I'm sure that if you don't buy it, several others here would like to get a chance at it.

The frame is the same size as your 625, so it would have the same "feel" as your 625.

I wouldn't pass this one up.

July 20, 2003, 09:04 PM
I have owned all three. I would go with the 27. Mine is 6 1/2" barrel, pined barrel and recessed cylinder. It shoots. Byron

July 20, 2003, 10:04 PM
The 27 has a cult following but if you're going to shoot the gun as opposed to just owning it, get the one that fits your hand best! Dennis

July 20, 2003, 10:53 PM
I own a Model 28 and a 686+. IMHO, the 686 is better for .357 magnums. Mine are both 6" guns. YMMV


Ala Dan
July 20, 2003, 11:28 PM
Greeting's All-

Again, buy what YOU want!:D :rolleyes: :uhoh:

Pretty sound advice, if you ask me~

But, GET the 4" Smith & Wesson model 27; cuz
U gotta' love those N-frames!:)

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

July 21, 2003, 12:30 AM
Go w/ the mod 27!

Jim March
July 21, 2003, 01:39 AM
The 27 is indeed the best "deal", esp. in terms of resale value (IF it passes a checkout!).

But, if it's a gun you intend to shoot/own for a while, and will be trusting your life to, the Ruger is the one you'll dig long-term. Rapid-fire won't screw up the cylinder, it'll take as much power as the 27 in a smaller package so it's easier to pack, and it's stainless.

Jim March
July 21, 2003, 01:43 AM
Oh ya: run the checkout. On ANY of 'em.

July 21, 2003, 05:36 AM
Buy what you want, but.....................
Get the Ruger KGP-141, has everything you want. As strong as, if not stronger than an N-frame, but in a package the size of an L-frame. Great guns. Had a 686, still own the KGP-141.

July 21, 2003, 08:48 AM
Thanks guys,
So I guess it's now between the 27 and the GP. So far I'm leaning toawards the 27 (I really like the look of those beefy N-frames).
BTW Rob, Keiffer's has some good prices on the new Colt 70 Series. I picked one up last month when I was in A-town.


July 21, 2003, 08:50 AM
Had a 625 and a model 13....bought a Ruger KGP-141:D
It is a much sturdier revolver than my Smiths were.

July 21, 2003, 09:17 AM
I would go with the 27 or GP100. I am unimpressed with the 686. It's a fine gun, but nothing special. I haven't shot a 27, but my friend's 28 is a mighty fine gun.


July 21, 2003, 09:55 AM
All things being equal, I would get the #27. Quantrill

July 21, 2003, 09:58 AM

July 21, 2003, 11:24 AM
I agree on the 27. I love my GP-100 but you don't run across 27 in that condition for that price every day. Get a GP later.

Bullet Bob
July 21, 2003, 12:43 PM
What were those choices again?



July 21, 2003, 03:29 PM
Ruger GP 100.

Another 357mag that I like Very Much. Is the Rossi 971. I just bought one last week and I just cant get over how accurate this thing is. Mine has the Vented ribs, Ported muzzle, Very nice trigger. Amazing accuracy.:)

4v50 Gary
July 21, 2003, 04:25 PM
M27. Back in the late '70s, it was quite a hot gun and those desperate for a M29 use to toy with the idea of swapping cylinders and bbls. :uhoh: In its own right it's a good gun and the best buy of the bunch.

July 21, 2003, 04:36 PM
Thanks Trumpet. I already called Keifers inquiring about the price. Had to pass for now, as I bought my wife her anniversary present last week. And I also bought my brother a Glock 19 as a sort of "Thank You" present.

July 21, 2003, 04:38 PM
Yep, I'll climb on the S&W Model 27 bandwagon.

Got a M27-2 earlier this month, looks, feels and shoots great.


July 21, 2003, 04:42 PM
Most definitely...The 27!

July 21, 2003, 04:42 PM
All three should be good revolvers. But I'd get the 4" M27, put good grips on it, and buy Comp I speedloaders and lots of ammo... There is something special, and solid feeling, about the M27.

July 21, 2003, 05:42 PM
Another nod for the 27. The 4-incher is a bit rarer than the longer ones (except the 5"). After seeing the prices at the local gun show this weekend, I'd say that smith is a screamin' deal.

July 21, 2003, 07:35 PM
Deal wise the 27 sounds like the way to go. It would be the one I would go with. Have owned a GP100 4" , very nice and accurate. Currently own a 686 and used to own 3 previous to this one. But the GP100 and 686 are very common and easy to find - the 27 sounds like a hec of deal! As much as I like 686s - there is NO way I would pay $500 for a used 686. The GP would be my second choice - the price sounds right.

July 22, 2003, 02:24 AM
Smith Y Wesson Modelo Veinte Siete

July 22, 2003, 02:33 AM
The price on the Model 27 Smith is :scrutiny:
Look at it HARD before you buy, but if it checks out BUY it. They will never make anything like it again.

The 686 should be less than $400!

The Ruger is priced ok, but you can ALWAYS get a Ruger.


July 22, 2003, 04:40 AM
Just to play the Devils Advocate here, last friday I bought a blued Ruger New Model Blackhawk 6 1/2 inch covertable in .357 Mag/ 9mm for $362 (Brand new from my favorite gunstore) plus tax. I realized long ago that I shoot revolvers best in single action mode,and rarely shoot double action, so it works for me. Plus, I get three choices for ammo instead of two. This gun balances well and fits my hand. I know that single action is not everyones cup of tea, but I like it. This gun will be more of a range and outdoor plinker as I have other firearms for defense.

July 22, 2003, 06:15 AM
Of the three, I'd get the Model 27 (if it fits your hand).

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