Why oh why did I shoot that GLOCK?


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ghettofab
December 1, 2007, 01:56 AM
I can't believe it. I really can't. I shot a GLOCK 22 today, and I can't hate them anymore. The experience was surreal. It was like the pistol was firing guided bullets. I couldn't miss. I shoot 1911s and CZs, and the grip of that plastic pistola felt....um....disgusting at first. Don't get me started on the trigger and its dingus. That all changed when I depressed the dingus and squeezed the trigger. 22 squeezes, 22 hits in the black. I don't know what to do. I suppose I'll just have to buy one for myself. :D Oh well, just ruminating. Anyone had the same experience?

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Blarelli
December 1, 2007, 02:18 AM
Eh, I kind of get the opposite. Whenever I shoot a glock, I am reminded of why I don't like them. Oh well, to each his own. Glad it performed good for you.

The Lone Haranguer
December 1, 2007, 05:58 AM
I got my Glock 19 in 1998. Up to that point I had been shooting revolvers and DA/SA autos, and not as well as I would have liked to. Because of the short, light, consistent trigger pull and better hand fit, I grouped much tighter with that Glock. Although other guns have come along, I still compare them to my Glock. I recently spent a few bucks to upgrade it to night sights.

Ragnar Danneskjold
December 1, 2007, 06:45 AM
Dont you just love the variety of pistols available today? :) No matter what you like or dont like, there is something for everyone. Gheettofab likes Glocks and Blarelli doesn't...and they're both right.

Geno
December 1, 2007, 06:57 AM
taurusowners reflected:

Dont you just love the variety of pistols available today? No matter what you like or dont like, there is something for everyone.

Yes, you are correct!

gehttofab reflected:

I can't believe it. I really can't. I shot a GLOCK 22 today, and I can't hate them anymore.

That is what happened with me as well. At this point, I have so many different types of pistols, and each is comfortable in it own right, but not the same comfort.

We are blessed with a massive and wonderful selection of firearms!

Doc2005

R&J
December 1, 2007, 07:53 AM
"Anyone had the same experience?"

Happiness is, brother. :D

They work for me too--and Judy! ;)

G17, G19 & G21...

Fact is, I've rented all but the GAP models, and 10 mm. But I bought a 10 mm KKM Conversion Barrel for my G21... :cool:

Kind of like driving VW's... :)

--Ray

JDGray
December 1, 2007, 08:22 AM
Glocks are great shooters. Hard to beat a Glock trigger with a 3.5 connector, unless you get a 1911.:D

Snarlingiron
December 1, 2007, 08:32 AM
I've pressed the dingus and trigger on my Glock 19 about 10,000 times so far. I just know if I keep pressing it, this cheap tupperware pistol with the crappy trigger and kaboom problems is going to fail... It just has to, then I can go back to hating them!

Nautilus
December 1, 2007, 08:43 AM
Similar experience here... I've always been a 1911 guy. My brother bought a glock 22 three years ago and I put a couple mags threw it.... I hated it. The trigger was mushy, the grip angle didn't feel natural & it was ugly.

So a year later when I decided I wanted to add a hi-cap 9mm to my collection I stayed away from the glocks. Well after buying then trading back in 3-4 different pistols and not being happy with any of them... I decided to give in and buy a glock. I didn't even pick it up, I just pointed to that ugly new G17 in the glass cases and said "I'll take it".

It's the only time I've left a gun shop with a new handgun I thought I was going to hate... That night I spent some time toying with it, tearing it aprt, cleaning it and putting it back together several times. I'll admit I was slightly impressed by the simplicity of it.

The next day I took 500 rds of WWB 115gr FMJ and an assortment of different kinds of JHP with me to the range. I was going to give it my own little torture test. My first 50 shots of so were not very accurate... but I slowly started getting used to the grip and finding the feel of the trigger. Mag after mag I got more accurate.

It ate up all 500 of the FMJ that day and nearly 100 JHP rounds. I now have over 2500 rounds through it without a single failure. No ftf, fte... nothing, and I'm getting very accurate with it. I've been converted and my nightstand gun is now this G17... I love it and I'll trust my life on it.

1911 guy
December 1, 2007, 08:46 AM
Shooting a handgun is 50% gun fit. If Glocks fit your hands, go for it. Me, I feel like I'm holding a pregnant 2X4 with a funky grip. They're not "bad" guns, they're just not for me. Maybe 1911's and CZ's aren't for you.

I like to rag on the "Glocks are the best" crowd, but if you shoot it well, no shame, just hits.

wally
December 1, 2007, 09:43 AM
Hard to beat a Glock trigger with a 3.5 connector

I couldn't hit worth beans with my Glok 17 & 21 until I got the 3.5 lb connectors. Then I was decent but still worse than with just about anything else I have. Nothing wrong with the guns as I shoot great groups with them off a rest,

I do question if Glocks with 3.5 lb cnnectors are safe for carry.

I didn't like the XD until I shot one, that was the first plastic non cocked and locked gun (I have Kimber BP and Witness-P guns) that worked for me. I like the new M&P a bit better. The Taurus 24/7 feels great in my hand and in dry-fire, but I shoot it about as badly as the Glocks.

If you shoot the Glocks well and don't care about using lead bullets for reloading and shooting economy (or are willing to buy an aftermarket barrel to do so), they are great guns and pretty much set the bar for out of the box reliability.

--wally.

Jim_M
December 1, 2007, 10:11 AM
Your attention focus changes with new things. It's never the arrow, just the Indian. Good chance that in a few hundred more rounds you'd swear the barrel is bent. A new driver has the exact effect on a golfer. Elevated attention and focus = nicely shaped 300 yd drives. And, in most cases followed soon their after with the poor attention and focus that "drove" us to a new gun in the first place.


Jim M

mavracer
December 1, 2007, 12:24 PM
Shooting a handgun is 50% gun fit. If Glocks fit your hands, go for it. Me, I feel like I'm holding a pregnant 2X4 with a funky grip. They're not "bad" guns, they're just not for me. Maybe 1911's and CZ's aren't for you.

I like to rag on the "Glocks are the best" crowd, but if you shoot it well, no shame, just hits.
I agree 110%

mballai
December 1, 2007, 01:25 PM
The more I shoot them, the more I like them. Mine are all customized, but the basic simple design of the gun is very endearing. Save for some special things, it's DIY, very reliable, and even with all the stuff added to it, very reasonable.

Setzer77
December 1, 2007, 02:22 PM
The Glock 34 I had was probably my most accurate and consistent gun in my hands. I could double tap all day long with it, and still keep relatively tight groups considering my level of experience and the rapid fire I was doing with it. I've toyed with the idea of buying another.

plexreticle
December 1, 2007, 02:33 PM
Most people that hate Glocks never have shot one.

Halo is for Kids
December 1, 2007, 04:15 PM
I only own one (Glock) and I like it. Moving from a Hipower to a glock, the glock felt big and blocky.:barf: It took about 200 rounds and a couple of hundred dry fires to get used to it. Now it feels like it was made for my hand. :confused:weird huh?:confused:

To know if you like a gun you have to shoot it. I thought the 9mm M&P compact felt much better in the hand than the glock 26. When shooting both, the glock was the more comfortable in every way.

To those who have held a glock but never fired one, rent one and give it a try (100-200 rnds). It does seem to be a love it or hate it kind of gun so you'll find out your own opinion in short order.:D

Hoppy590
December 1, 2007, 04:50 PM
i had the direct opposite interaction with glocks, but hey, so long as you try things and own a gun, cool!

Pistol Toter
December 1, 2007, 05:04 PM
For all those that have to own the 21SF; I've got a 21, my hands are average and I have absolutely no problem DRILLING the X out of a B29 at 25 yards just as fast as I can pull that last little bit of trigger. It is totaly boring! That thing slings them 230 grain ashtrays slicker than whistle. Ugly, no sex appeal, no soul but a fine tool. I can't make myself miss. Oh and it's got Mepros on it. If I go out late at night, it's with me.

ghettofab
December 1, 2007, 06:29 PM
Thanks for the responses, guys. I'll be looking into a 17 or 19 in the near future, I think. Although I liked the way the .40 shot, I don't like the price of ammo, so I'll just let it share ammo with my 75b. As I drift inexorably toward plasticdom....

1911Tuner
December 1, 2007, 06:47 PM
Not a thing wrong with a Glock. If I could find a way to get one to fit my hand, I'd probably own a few.

Shooters Plus
December 1, 2007, 07:14 PM
Coming from 1911's I had trouble at first with the grip angle on the Glock but after shooting them both pretty much equally, I now have no trouble transitioning from one to the other.

gudel
December 1, 2007, 09:32 PM
the 22 is a badass isn't it? :-)
I bought another 17 to replace my old 17. This one seem even more accurate than the old 17 and the 22.

10-Ring
December 1, 2007, 10:10 PM
I have owned a few Glocks but it wasn't until my 19 that I saw the light :cool: Gotta love'em ;)

RNB65
December 1, 2007, 10:12 PM
Welcome to the dark side. :evil:

SuperNaut
December 1, 2007, 10:58 PM
Once I found the handgun that fit my hand and my preferences I wanted to shout it from the rooftops too. It is a great thing.

magsnubby
December 1, 2007, 11:36 PM
To an ole country boy raised on 1911's and S&W wheel guns, those plastic Glock things were strange creatures indeed. Why in hell would anyone in their right mind want to own an ugly blocky looking plastic gun? Specially in something as wimpy as a nine sillymeter. I looked at 'em in the gun store. I handled one or two. Still wasn't really impressed. I'll stick to my good old tried and true .357 wheel gun thank you very much.

One day i decided maybe i wanted a .40. I did some research and decided, yup, i wanna .40. I did more research and decided maybe those plastic guns could just maybe, possibly not be so bad.

I decided to look at a Glock 23 again. I went back to the gun store. I looked it over a bit, dry fired it a time or two, layed it back on the counter, looked at a Colt Mustang, looked at the 23 again and figured if i didn't like it i could always trade it fo another wheel gun.

I took it to the range and ran 200 rounds through it. I couldn't believe it was that damn accurate. And just plain fun to shoot.

I now have five Glocks. And two of 'em are even nine sillymeters.

QuackAddict
December 1, 2007, 11:51 PM
40K rounds and counting through my G17, along with at least as many disbursed through the other 7. Stone cold reliable. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and i'll sacrifice beauty for reliabilty anytime. Welcome to the Glock side.

jdc1244
December 1, 2007, 11:57 PM
Not a thing wrong with a Glock. If I could find a way to get one to fit my hand, I'd probably own a few.

Agreed.

In my case if I could find some that weren’t so butt-ugly I’d probably own a few.

SDDL-UP
December 2, 2007, 01:26 AM
Lots of things to like about the Glock, I just prefer CZ.

I own a Glock 17, and will own a Glock 22 someday, still prefer CZ, but also like variety and $16 factory mags!

JP from Phoenix
December 2, 2007, 01:37 AM
Thats what I'm scared of I know one day I'm gonna end up with one of those ugly things lol. Eventhough the grips on them are bricklike i still feel they have good ergonomice for my smaller hands. They do make them in pretty much every major caliber available, do they have .22 conversian kits for them? I'm sure they probably do

Do they really blow up that much though?? Thats the biggest thing i hear about them. Does glock replace them if it kabooms on you?

DHart
December 2, 2007, 06:41 AM
For many years I couldn't warm up to Glocks... loved my 1911's and HiPowers and revolvers. Finally I got a 29... came to really like the thing, with a little reservation. When I bought my 19, that was it!!! I really got it. Quickly followed with a 23 (which is my all time favorite Glock now AND my primary carry gun). Now have a Glock 30 as well. I found that you have to own and shoot and frequently hold Glocks in your hand before the "meld" takes place... slowly, over time, you come to really appreciate these guns - especially with a 3.5# connector and smooth-faced trigger. And a little judicious material removal on the underside of the trigger guard where your knuckle hits! The 3.5# connector, BTW, only brings the trigger pull down to around 5# or so... which doesn't feel at all unsafe (being a 1911 guy!)

I give the Glock 23 my highest "thumbs-up" now as all-around #1 choice recommendation to others as a carry gun. Glock 19 is a very close second. Glock 30 following that, but ONLY if your hands are big enough to deal with the bulk of the 30's grip frame.

tallpaul
December 2, 2007, 09:06 AM
I was never crazy about them, never really wanted one. I did get weak last summer and figured I better get a another high cap nine and a bunch of mags since dad has my smith and I traded a beretta to a buddy who wanted it way more than I did , for a match garand. The best mag prices I found were the glocks so.... I ended up with a g17 and like it alot more than I thought I would. Likely it will get a light and become my beater bedside gun. A local practical club has shown a few of my friends that night shootin is not really done all that well with the ol model 10's most of us kept as cheap nightstand guns. I have not had the chance to run the drills myself but I tend ta believe em. Besides it was a great excuse. I only have a few hundred rounds through her with no malfunctions of any kind...

Kevin108
December 2, 2007, 10:21 AM
None of my friends like my Glocks even though they shoot them better than me and my Tupperware is more accurate than their HKs and CZs.

I'm like, "Compare your targets! What's not to like?"

I get the usual, "The grip angle is weird, it feels too wide/long/short/plastic for my hand."

glockman19
December 2, 2007, 12:33 PM
I don't know what to do. I suppose I'll just have to buy one for myself.

YES. I'm surprised you didn't walk out with that one.

Janos Dracwlya
December 2, 2007, 01:33 PM
I've handled lots of Glocks over the years. I had never tried one until last November when I got to try a G-34 that belongs to a shooting buddy. Although I didn't like the light trigger, I liked the way it shot. It was without a doubt one of the most accurate handguns I've ever fired, at least for me. I'm going to get one eventually.

ernunnos
December 2, 2007, 02:36 PM
Grip feel is highly overrated. One of my instructors used to test students' pistols by flipping them upside down and pull the trigger with his pinky while tilting his head back to peer at the sights through his bifocals. It was a silly stunt, but once they saw him put two shots through the bullseye like that they were ready to stop blaming their grip or their sights, and he could start teaching them how to really shoot. The Glock's got a decent, consistent trigger and a nice low bore axis. Even if you don't like the way it feels, if you do your part, it won't disappoint. It's like having a perfectly reliable henchman who never says anything but "Ok, boss."

GLOOB
December 2, 2007, 06:06 PM
I ended up renting a first gen 17L at a range. The grip felt big and slick. It felt like there was nowhere to comfortably put my shooting thumb. The trigger felt weird. I was sooo sure I wouldn't be able to shoot it well. But before the end of the first mag, I was sold. I felt like I could place shots within the patterning area of other high quality guns I shot in the same session. The only pistol that has ever been as accurate for me was a P220 in single action. After just two mags, I was able to determine that the first hand-fed shot was hitting about an inch to the right at ~30 feet, and repeated testing confirmed this. A little bothersome, yeah. But on the other hand, it shot well enough for me to notice so quickly... which is really amazing! Before this episode, I had a preference towards the 1911.

As for reliability: I have never experienced a failure in any of the handguns I have shot. So for me, the love affair is mainly about the accuracy and consistency. The reputation for reliability is just icing on the cake. I feel like I knew exactly what I was getting when I finally bought my Glock. With other makes, I feel like some they are more hit-or-miss, out of the box. I mean, hand-fitting is great, and all, but overly precise machining in a design that can tolerate a lot less... that's a thing of beauty - sort of like taking a Makarov, and fabricating it in the world's most sophisticated pistol manufacturing plant.

While at the range, I admit I preferred shooting the P220, though.:)

creekerdoug
December 2, 2007, 07:09 PM
I got tired of getting beat in IDPA's stock service pistol class by Glocks. So I got a Glock 34. I haven't looked back. I didn't like the grip angle. I didn't like trigger. I didn't like the way they looked. However, I eventually saw the light. Almost all my other pistols are long gone. I have 2 Glock 34s, a 19, a 21 and 26. I suppose I'm a convert.

brentn
December 2, 2007, 07:26 PM
It's funny you mention this, I had posted just a few days ago about my experience in that I have had the best groupings ever with my glock. At one point it was like I could literally see the bullets flying into the center of my target at 20 yards it was that comfortable. The sights on this gun are the best I have ever used. I'm afraid that if I get the trijicon night sights my accuracy will go down... Might just leave the stock plastic ones in..

The magazine release really bites at the thumb however, I'm going to file off the grooves so that it doesn't hurt after a long range session. An extended smooth one would be perfect.
Although the carrot grip hurts the hand it helps keep the web between my thumb and index nice and high on the gun for better control. A hogue rubber grip would probably cure the irritation.

I love this gun.

ernunnos
December 2, 2007, 07:36 PM
That's one reason to use a high-thumb grip. And you get better control while you're at it.

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