Is anyone interested in doing this, If so PM me with contact information? It adds 14 more states if you currently have a Washington license based on October 2007 information that's 32 of the 50 United States, not bad!
These states allow Utah CCW per NRA Website. (Packing.org was down when I posted)
Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Deleware, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississsippi, Missouri, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, Wyoming.
These States allow Washington CCW per NRA:
Alaska, Arizona, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia
Link to NRA information:
http://www.nraila.org/recmap/usrecmap.aspx
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Polishrifleman
December 5, 2007, 02:28 PM
More information:
4hr class
Weeknight either in Bellevue area or Seattle area late Jan. early Feb.
Maximum cost is $75 (might be lower depending on number of people)
FourTeeFive
December 5, 2007, 02:53 PM
I'm interested!
jt1
December 5, 2007, 10:39 PM
I might be.
rwc
December 6, 2007, 01:39 AM
This is a good class, in and of itself for safety review, etc.
Have fun!
TMann
December 6, 2007, 01:46 AM
Now if those darn Oregonians would allow some reciprocity for CCWing in their state. My folks lives in the Portland area, and it's a pain figuring out what to do whenever I go see them. :banghead:
TMann
FourTeeFive
December 6, 2007, 02:11 AM
Now if those darn Oregonians would allow some reciprocity for CCWing in their state.
I've heard it is a matter of finding a gun-friendly sheriff in a county in Oregon. Anyone have any suggestions?
jt1
December 6, 2007, 02:22 AM
I've heard it is a matter of finding a gun-friendly sheriff in a county in Oregon. Anyone have any suggestions?
Any help with this would be greatly apprecated.
Right Wing Wacko
December 6, 2007, 06:29 AM
I might be interested in this class... depending on what day of the week it's on.
A Utah permit is probably one of the most usefull in the country!
Polishrifleman
December 6, 2007, 03:38 PM
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Where to Apply:
Apply by mail to:
Bureau of Criminal Identification
3888 West 5400 South
Salt Lake City, Utah 84118
801-965-4445
Applications will be accepted in person from 8:00 am until 5:00 p.m. at the above location.
What Will it Cost to Apply?
A non-refundable fee of $62.25 must be included with your application. This fee consists of $35.00 for application and permit processing and $30.25 charged by the F.B.I. to process your fingerprint cards. Please make checks and money orders payable to the "Utah Bureau of Criminal Identification".
Who is Eligible?
*Minimum requirements for application for a concealed firearms permit in Utah are:
•Applicant must be at least 21 years of age
•Proof of good character...whereas the applicant;
°has not been convicted of a felony;
°has not been convicted of any crime of violence;
°has not been convicted of any offense involving the use of alcohol;
°has not been convicted of any offenses involving the unlawful use of narcotics or other controlled substances;
°has not been convicted of any offenses involving moral turpitude;
°has not been convicted of any offense involving domestic violence;
°has not been adjudicated by a court of a state or of the United States as mentally incompetent, unless the adjudication has been withdrawn or reversed
*A criminal background check is conducted for all applicants
What Must Accompany the Application?
1. A Photocopy of your Driver License
2.
Photograph. One recent color photograph of passport quality. *Photos may be taken at BCI.
3.
Fingerprint Card. One fingerprint card. Must be filled out completely. Writing and prints must be legible. Fingerprint should be taken by a trained fingerprint technician. Fingerprint cards that are not legible will be returned to the applicant and will cause a delay in processing the application.
*Fingerprint services are available from BCI or may be offered through your local law enforcement agency. There are private businesses that also offer this service. Check in your local phone directory. Photos and fingerprints may be obtained at BCI (3888 W 5400 S, Taylorsville, UT. The cost is $13.00 for 1 photo and $13.00 for up to 3 fingerprint cards.
4.
Weapon Familiarity Certification. Applicants must complete a firearms familiarity course certified by BCI. The course must be completed before you apply for a permit. Please have your instructor complete the certification information on the application. View a list of certified instructors.
Return to Concealed Firearm Permit Home Page
Thanks to all of you who have responded. This offer will remain open until the class but I will poll those that have responded on Monday next week to set a date and confirm a location. Here is a direct link to the Utah page. As far as the Oregon stuff goes someone else is going to have to take that one on because I don't know anything about it.
http://bci.utah.gov/CFP/CFPHome.html
Balog
December 6, 2007, 07:42 PM
I'd like to do this. Our lease expires in Feb tho, so with the moving and such I may not be able to go.
shaytan
December 6, 2007, 08:12 PM
I live in GA but I will be in Seattle from the 16-22 and then for a week in Feb. If I can do this during that time, I would be interested.
Gray Peterson
December 7, 2007, 03:21 AM
Umatilla County in Pendleton in Oregon issues non-resident licenses for self defense purposes. I've also heard on the OpenCarry.org forum that Multnomah County issues for personal protection too now that Sheriff Guisto is in office. I try to stay from Multnomah due to the fact that they tend to be abusive even to their residents which is required to be shall-issue (basically they have a lower threshold for attempting to use the "danger to self and others" provision to attempt to revoke a license). Also give Washington County a try.
Dain Bramage
December 7, 2007, 12:35 PM
I'd be interested. Please put me on the list.
carnaby
December 7, 2007, 02:55 PM
My step-dad (and my ma before she passed away), grandparents and other relatives live in Pendleton OR. I might just apply for Oregon CCW next time I'm there. :)
Gray Peterson
December 8, 2007, 03:27 AM
Make sure you call 'em first. They may require appointments.
MillCreek
December 9, 2007, 12:05 AM
I would definitely be interested.
mgdavis
December 9, 2007, 06:48 PM
I'm interested as well.
Polishrifleman
December 10, 2007, 01:59 PM
Ok we have about 15 guys that are interested in this. I have posted most of the details previously so now we need to set a Date and Time. Just so everyone is still aware (These are listed above too but thought I would condense to the important ones Character aside:
Cost of Class is:$75
Cost of Application: $62.25 (this goes straight to Utah and FBI, and RWC says the wait is unbearable due to the States Slowness)
Passport Photo
21yrs old
Fingerprinting
Background Check
The instructor is unavailable to teach between the 7th and 14th of Jan. so I am thinking the first week in Jan. or that week after the 14th. I have a location in Bellevue or Seattle that would work. Bellevue location is by the Bellevue Athletic Club and Seattle location is smack dab Downtown. Class duration is 4hrs so the commute home won't be bad but the commute to the class is going to be horrid. I figure start time at 6pm bring a sack dinner and done by 10pm.
Get me your responses if you want to be heard.
carnaby
December 10, 2007, 05:42 PM
It would have to be after the 15th for me. 6pm done by 10pm works for me.
Blarelli
December 10, 2007, 08:42 PM
Cost of Application: $63 (this goes straight to Utah and FBI, and RWC says the wait is unbearable due to the States Slowness)
Wait for residents right now is only about 4 weeks. Better hurry up, there has been talk of charging out of state applicants a larger fee.
Balog
December 10, 2007, 11:56 PM
Any time in Jan is tough; I basically won't know until maybe the week before if it's viable for me. Even if I can spare the time and cash transport could be an issue. Anyone else coming from the North Bend/Preston area?
Bellevue, definitely.
Where can I get a set of fingerprint cards done?
Polishrifleman
December 11, 2007, 01:42 AM
The instructor does the fingerprinting you just need a passport photo to send in with the application.
FourTeeFive
December 11, 2007, 01:52 AM
Bellevue is preferred for me. Any time in January looks good so far.
Thanks!
Polishrifleman
December 13, 2007, 12:36 PM
For those of you who haven't replied, I plan on making a decision by tomorrow. It is going to be after the 14th of Jan. so by making a decision tomorrow you will have a few weeks to plan.
Polish
EllisWyatt
December 19, 2007, 04:04 AM
So what's the word?
MillCreek
December 22, 2007, 01:39 PM
Excellent news on the fingerprint card; I had planned on going down to my local police department and have them do a set. Is the required background check also something that is done at the seminar, or do I have to have this done prior, and by whom?
Polishrifleman
December 22, 2007, 09:13 PM
Just got back from a trip to Whistler, will update tomorrow but gotta do some last minute shopping. We are on after the 14th in Bellevue. Exact date etc... will be forthcoming.
gravis86
December 23, 2007, 04:02 PM
I'm all for it. Just let me know when.
98 Joes
December 23, 2007, 06:08 PM
After the 14th works for me. Just let me know when and where. :D
gravis86
December 26, 2007, 03:21 AM
Any updates?
Polishrifleman
December 27, 2007, 06:16 PM
Ok, I am kind of back (been playing too much).
Here's what I am shooting for based on feedback so now I need a go/no go from everyone interested.
Date: Monday Jan. 21st (waiting for verification from instructor)
Time: 6pm to 10pm
Location: Bellevue by Bellevue Athletic Club
Cost of Class: $75 Paid to Instructor that Night
Cost of Application: $65.25 (Sent in With Application)
Cost of Fingerprints (Bellevue Fingerprinting): $15
Cost of Passport Photos: $5 (Costco)
Cost of Notary: Free at your bank???
Total Cost approximately: $160
Bring Sack Dinner
Let me know so I can get a head count. The class is limited to 12 people on a first come first serve.
MillCreek
December 27, 2007, 09:17 PM
I will attend, and I will await further details on what all we need to bring with us, and what will be done at the actual session.
FourTeeFive
December 27, 2007, 09:44 PM
Count me in!
Right Wing Wacko
December 28, 2007, 12:39 AM
Ok, unfortunatly I'm out. I'll have to catch another class at a later date. My work schedule conflicts
Tokugawa
December 28, 2007, 01:33 AM
Sounds good, count me also!.
Polishrifleman
December 28, 2007, 02:59 AM
Half Full based on this thread and PM's, still waiting on confirmation from the instructor but this fits with his previous time table so it shouldn't be a problem.
mgdavis
December 29, 2007, 02:38 PM
I'm in.
Joe Gunns
December 29, 2007, 06:12 PM
I will attend.
CryingWolf
December 29, 2007, 10:12 PM
You might want to note that some states like Florida, Colorado, etc will not honor non resident CCWs from Utah.
Pursuant to Colorado law (CRS 18-12-213), the State of Colorado will recognize a valid permit issued in another state IF the permit was issued to a resident of the state issuing the permit.
The state of Colorado no longer recognizes the validity of any permit issued by any state to a nonresident of that state (see CRS 18-12-213 amended 2007).
http://cbi.state.co.us/ccw/reciprocity.asp
(6) These states issue concealed carry licenses to qualified individuals who are non-residents. These non-resident permits cannot be honored under Florida's reciprocity provision.
You might want to note that some states like Florida, Colorado, etc will not honor non resident CCWs from Utah.
Correct. You can click on WA, UT, and FL and see what states honor non-resident versus resident-only permits from those states:
http://www.handgunlaw.us/
From what I can tell a non-resident Utah permit will get you most everything a non-resident Florida permit will, except for Florida itself. But otherwise the combination of a WA and non-resident UT permit covers a good number of states.
KirklandRdr
January 1, 2008, 03:34 PM
My Dad and I are both interested. Please put me on the list for two.
Polishrifleman
January 7, 2008, 03:43 PM
21st is confirmed, class is full (maybe squeeze in one or two more) but we can put together another one too (after we get through the first one). You will receive a PM from me but here's the list as I have it:
One drop out so far, so definately one space open!
headcrash
January 10, 2008, 09:41 PM
Please count me in will definitely attend, thx.
mgdavis
January 11, 2008, 05:02 PM
If anyone is having trouble figuring out where to get fingerprinted, you should check your local police department. Kitsap County Sheriffs Office does fingerprint cards for $10.
Polishrifleman: Maybe I missed it in the thread, but what needs to be notarized?
Polishrifleman
January 11, 2008, 06:01 PM
I don't know for sure on the Notary. I am assuming you will need to sign your Utah application before you send it in and the state of Utah would like that signature notarized. That is just an assumption though. All I know you need for the class is the $$$ for class, pen, paper and ID.
Notary, fingerprints, photo's etc... are on your time and sent in to Utah with Utah $$$$ along with stamped course completion on application upon finishing the class on the 21st.
The instructor is out on vacation so I will update next week with anything new.
mgdavis
January 11, 2008, 08:45 PM
Ahh, that makes sense. I was thinking that we were going to hand everything to the instructor, and he'd take care of it from there. I'm glad I asked. :)
rwc
January 12, 2008, 03:05 AM
Assumption correct. After you have completed the class and have a stamped and signed (by the instructor) application you fill it all out and do NOT sign it yourself.
Get thee in front of a notary public, show ID, and then sign it in their presence. They will likely also have you sign a register or log-book that they commonly keep for their records. Add a fingerprint card, a check, an envelope, postage, and a few weeks time and you too will have a geeky looking UT CPL ID card with a red stripe on it.
Have fun.
rwc
Candiru
January 12, 2008, 06:54 AM
I'd be interested in taking a class in either the Seattle or Bellevue area if space opens up.
mgdavis
January 21, 2008, 02:42 AM
Do we have an actual address? I'm the kind of guy that gets lost easy, so I like having a destination to plug into the gps. ;)
MillCreek
January 21, 2008, 11:55 AM
PM sent so you know where to go. I will see you at the class.
headcrash
January 21, 2008, 01:45 PM
Still hoping to attend if there is space please PM me thx.
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