M1A Paintchip Stock--Uglier than Average Wear?
Skunkabilly
July 21, 2003, 11:52 AM
Take a looksee at my M1A stock...I shot 400 rounds this weekend doing some shooting on the move, offhand, prone crouched and the moving between these positions, is this level of wear normal?
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Kaylee
July 21, 2003, 12:22 PM
gaaah! :what:
"normal" or not, that's worth a call to Springfield, methinks. with much colorful language even.....
-K
Ledbetter
July 21, 2003, 12:37 PM
The factory synthetic stocks are notorious for shedding their paint. That's pretty bad even still. Why not strip it and coat it with something serious and tactical?;)
G&R Tactical
July 21, 2003, 12:39 PM
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Kcustom45
July 21, 2003, 01:29 PM
My M1A is chipping a little bit around the magazine well, but nothing like that.
Dizos
July 21, 2003, 01:54 PM
The Springfield textured finish is junk. The finish chips easy but is a bear to completely strip.
Send your rifle to Mac at Mac's Shootin Irons and have him put a more durable finish on it.
-- Dizos
mark mcj
July 21, 2003, 02:20 PM
It's good to see you're rifle is getting some rounds down range...
That stock looks like a surplus, coated over. Is that the general consensus?
I'd coat it over with a bed liner type product. If Springfield can't get it right the first time, I wouldn't send it back and be out my rifle for some time, then have it peel off again.
I kind of like the look of that stock though, but for what Springfield charges for thier M1As, that finish should hold up better than what I've seen posted on this forum and others.
BDM
July 21, 2003, 02:36 PM
I agree thats a surplus stock painted over and that sock came on an unopened new rifle?for what the charge the can afford to do better than that ,repaint it yourself and satin clearcoat it so it wont chip,thats a disgrace that springfield sent a $20 surplus stock on a $1200 rifle ???? the money they saved with that stunt they should have built your rifle with GI parts,hopefully a company other than springfiels will make a better for the money M14 type rifle one of these days.
Ledbetter
July 21, 2003, 03:18 PM
I got a nice G.I. stock from Fred's and refinished it. Saves stripping the old stock and you can get a nice tight receiver fit.
45R
July 21, 2003, 03:52 PM
Send that baby back to SA and ask them for a wood stock.
BadWolf
July 21, 2003, 05:15 PM
Skunk,
The SA crinkle black finish is junk...
I got a great custom painted stock from:
http://www.angelfire.com/mo3/camo/skratch.html
I recommend skratch highly!!
You can also get them from:
http://www.whamocamo.com
or
http://www.imageseek.com/karsten/
or
you can find a bunch on ebay, gunbroker, etc.
-BadWolf
CWL
July 21, 2003, 05:46 PM
That's just wrong.
Contact SA and explain to them your situation, they've heard this before, and trade up to a wood stock.
Steve Smith
July 21, 2003, 06:00 PM
Yep, Springfield uses a $4 (four dollar!) surplus stock and paints it. One more reason I'm not a Springfield fan. Frankly I'm not sure if there is a "good finish" for that synthetic stock, as I tried hard to finish a few of my own and they would all chip.
Consider this: Buy a Fred's brown ugly synthetic stock for $4 and buy whatever "tactical" pretty stock you want too. If you're going to play rough like you did, use the $4 stock, and when you want it to look pretty, switch stocks.
Schuey2002
July 21, 2003, 06:51 PM
I'd say its about time for a CF stock, eh, Skunk.. :what:
Dizos
July 21, 2003, 06:56 PM
Springfield charges from $40 - $60 to trade up for a wood stock.
Gewehr98
July 21, 2003, 07:49 PM
Tell him what pattern you want on your GI synthetic, and he'll have it out to you right quick. It'll stay painted, I thrash this one in his Ambush pattern pretty hard:
http://mauser98.com/m14nmbench.jpg
Skunkabilly
July 21, 2003, 09:15 PM
The lady I spoke to on the phone said I can send the stock back and call back for a return number becuase the computers are down.
I called back and the lady was out to lunch and the other lady said all they'll do is repaint it with Harley paint, and I can save myself time and being away from my stock if I paint the thing myself.
My instructor has a demo gun that has thouands through it and not a ding on it. I don't know what to make of it.
I don't know who said all my gear looks new, the rifle is the least used item out of my toolchest--barely over 1000 rounds since I bought it 12/2001.
SixTGunr
July 22, 2003, 12:37 AM
Just for the record ...
Skratch ... Formerly of Whamo-Camo recently decided to leave the camo painting behind and travel about enjoying retirement ...
Six of Whamo-Camo
Soap
July 22, 2003, 12:53 AM
Wow....that looks like crap! Like others have said, call Fred, he has a bunch of stuff that would suit your needs.
Skunkabilly
July 22, 2003, 12:56 AM
60, when I send you my stock, will you give me a discount on scraping the stuff off since so much of it's gone already? :D
Do you do a gray tone Apache camo?
SixTGunr
July 22, 2003, 01:08 AM
I'll have to sleep on that one skunk ... :D
Six
BDM
July 22, 2003, 01:51 AM
Hey six im the guy who sold you the M14 mags back before last thanks giving,hows things?and I hope the mags are still serving you well,high road is a great forum you will like it here..and to skunk six is a great guy to do buisness with your stock is in good hands..six take care..dave:D
Master Blaster
July 22, 2003, 09:19 AM
Friday I was in my local gunstore, a gentleman brought in his springfield match target model M1A1? it was the $2000+ model, he was very unhappy because when he took it apart because the trigger was sticking, he discovered that the fire control group trigger, hammer, sear were cheap NON Milspec cast parts, very rough with mold seams on them.
The customer was very unhappy because he thought that he was getting quality forged milspec parts. The shop owner said that he has seen all kinds of parts in the springfield guns. He thought they were using the cheapest most availible parts, some milspec some not.
Doesnt sound like a quality build to me.
Sven
July 22, 2003, 10:36 AM
Gotta love America, where you have tons of options:
In addition to Whamo-Camo, Check out Karsten's Custom Camo:
http://www.imageseek.com/karsten/karsten.jpg
Karsten's Custom Camo
(http://www.imageseek.com/karsten/)
Tell him sven sent you! I'm thinking about 6-color desert "chocolate chip" as the ideal camo for my dream rifle.
MarineTech
July 22, 2003, 11:29 AM
I'll second the quality on Karsten's work. The picture of the German Fleck stock on his website is my rifle. It was the first Fleck pattern stock he did, and it's a beautiful job. Very resilient too. I've put about a thousand rounds through the gun since he did it for me without any chipping or flaking. And that most of that was not off the bench either.
I'm probably going to have him do 2 or 3 more in different patterns for me.
SixTGunr
July 22, 2003, 11:40 AM
Pic Removed ....
Skunkabilly
July 22, 2003, 01:02 PM
[salivating in anticipation]
Picture no workey :(
[/salivating in anticipation]
Skunkabilly
July 25, 2003, 01:11 PM
SA customer svc said they'll replace it, but it'll take 3-4 weeks for it to come in.
I hope they'll let me send it in AFTER it arrives, I don't wanna go w/out ol Daisy for a month! :eek:
45R
July 25, 2003, 01:31 PM
Springfield is doing the right thing. Push for them to let you keep your stock until you get theirs. Looks like ole' Daisy is getting a face lift.
Skunkabilly
July 25, 2003, 03:52 PM
They said the only way to do it is for me to pay for the new one, then they'll refund me when my old one shows up.
I guess it sounds reasonable, too bad I can't charge interest :D
El Rojo
July 27, 2003, 11:33 AM
Hey Skunk,
Missed you at West End yesterday. I got my loaded model with a really nice wood stock on it. I ordered one of those cheap synthetics from Fred's and then took the paint job on myself. Here is the result.
http://home.bak.rr.com/elrojo/pictures/m1acamo1.jpg
http://home.bak.rr.com/elrojo/pictures/m1acb.jpg
Coolest thing ever happened yesterday at the 3 gun match. I guess while I was shooting the close in rifle stage, my wife overhears some of the coppers saying, "Now that guy is shooting a man's gun." She wishes she hadn't told me that, my head is about a size 14 now. :D
juicy
July 27, 2003, 09:59 PM
haha sweet " a mans gun" i love my m1a
http://www.shackspace.com/~joozy@shackmail.com/m1a.jpg
mine :D
yes i know i fixed the bipod legs after i saw what i did :o
juicy
July 27, 2003, 10:50 PM
i recommend a bottle of citristrip for the black crinkle.
http://www.shackspace.com/~joozy@shackmail.com/citristrip.jpg
now Citristrip VS SA's Crinkle Finish
http://www.shackspace.com/~joozy@shackmail.com/crinkle1.jpg
http://www.shackspace.com/~joozy@shackmail.com/crinkle2.jpg
final close of up the ownage this stuff does to it
http://www.shackspace.com/~joozy@shackmail.com/crinkle3.jpg
juicy
July 27, 2003, 10:58 PM
you can literally peel the crinkle finsih off of the synthetic and it will be perfectly clean.
Steve Smith
July 28, 2003, 09:35 AM
"That's powerful stuff!!!" - The Fabulous Thunderbirds
(guitar twanging in the background)
juicy
July 28, 2003, 02:27 PM
i think they still show it on tech tv :)
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