[MichaelJ07]

Been wanting to post this here for some time. Our CPL paperwork is in "other hands" now and hopefully we will hear something by late December or early January. But, for my son and me, the training continues.

So, have you ever had to pull your weapon in a situation?

Thanks.
Michael

[hankdatank1362]

Ever had to use the search function?



Hahaha, sorry, I couldn't help it.

I do think the topic has been covered before, though.

[MichaelJ07]

Tried several attempts to find that thread. I thought I read it before somewhere here, but failed miserably to find it. I remember it being a great read. Heck, I go on so many different gun forums that I can't see the bullets for the guns!

If someone could (in their VERY VERY spare time) dig up that thread, this almost new CPL holder would certainly appreciate it.

Michael

[Eric F]

I was driving home and blew a hose in my truck so I pulled off in downtown Richmond Va(see book "BLACK HAWK DOWN"). I lifted the hood was checking things out and noticed a "less than savory individual" kept peeking around the corner of the store I stoped at. I went back to my cab and put my highpower in my waistband and covered it with my shirt and continued to make a repair when some how I missed this guy walk around behind me then I heard the words "Hey BOY give me some money"
I steped down off my bumper turned around and said What? this guy repeated himself and went in is baggy pants pocket rather quickly So I pulled on him(right wrong or indiffrent) I told him to take his hand out of his pocket and get lost and as soon as he went around the corner I started my truck and hauld down the road to a diffrent location to finish fixing the hose. I was as cool as a cucumber until I stoped again then I got super nervous for about 10 minutes or so. This was the reason I got a ccw I use to think they were silly and for the "cowboy" types I supported having one just never thought I would ever need one.

[hankdatank1362]

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=268196


This one has a poll, too. IIRC, it's a good read.

[eliphalet]

Nope never "pulled" my weapon, in fact I no longer carry.
Where I live now I don't feel it is needed. 20 or so years ago I lived where it was with me 95% of the time and there were times it felt real good to know my fingers were wrapped around it, but it was never pulled or did anyone ever know I had one with me.
Where I used to live I had the attitude of a animal of prey, I was extremely alert to my surroundings and wanted to know who, what was around me at all times, in the car or on foot. Now I live in another part of the country, small town rural America in peaceful bliss. I can carry here at nearly all times if I want, I just choose not to.

[v35]

I hope the only time I ever do is at the RO's command.

In case you haven't already seen it be sure to read this story. (http://www.corneredcat.com/Why/HCI.aspx)

[WaltonS]

Once. 'Twas a .22 cal Ruger Single-Six loaded with magnums that rested peacefully behind a typewriter on my desk. One of my roommates was a partyer and didn't really know about the gun (he knew I owned several but not that I had one at the ready at all times) and since there were no kids around I figured, why not keep it handy in case I need it?
One day, one of the good ol' roommate's buddies, a meth-head whose temper was only bested by his body odor stopped in and was hassling me because I wouldn't loan him my laptop for "homework." (He'd never graduated, and as far as I knew, wasn't going back for his GED) After I refused he began shouting obscenities and calling be "boy" (God, I hate it when "tough guys" say crap like that) and the next thing I knew, he'd produced a knife (I use the term very loosely) with a blade about as long as my forearm (elbow to wrist) and was waving it about while shouting. I shoved the typewriter aside (not onto the floor, heavens no, that thing has too much sentimental value) and grabbed the gun. I'd subconsciously half-cocked it as I was bringing it up, and aimed right between the eyes. I generally don't like the thought of pointing a loaded gun at another person but this guy... well, he was a nut, and armed.

[rocket lad]

Once at the pool hall my dad used to run. I'd thrown a couple of people out, and as was the standard, stayed outside to make sure they didn't damage cars or anything. As I'm circling the building, one of them shouts at me while the other is charging toward me. As fast as I could, pulled the 1911 out of the holster, still aiming toward the ground. As soon as he sees it, starts getting really apologetic, both run off.

It ended well.

[JWarren]

So, have you ever had to pull your weapon in a situation?


Yes. First time was when I was 15 years old (36 now). Last time was a few months ago.


-- John

[mgregg85]

not yet, god willing I will never have to.

[esq_stu]

Maybe 3-4 years ago.

I was filling the tank at a gas station. I saw a thin guy in an oversized army-type jacket standing several pumps away, not near a car (not pumping gas), staring at me.

I turned my body weak hand side toward him, looked directly at him - maybe 25-35 feet away. My strong hand was in my coat pocket on whatever I was carrying - I think a snubby, but can't remember which one.

He stared for maybe 10 more seconds (very long seconds) and then turned and walked the other direction.

I have no idea if he was really a threat or not. That's as close as I've come.

[Eric F]

god willing I will never have to.Well dont carry it and you wont have to.(parody ment for humor only all insults are mearly coincidental)

[hawk84]

in september I was on my way to go camping. and had the gun in my trunk, unloaded.

We hit the road at about 4 am. and made a stop at the local store. my gf went inside to get some stuff with my friend. I stayed in the truck. There was a homeless man that approached me asking for money. I told him no while unsheathing my Kabar(hidden from view). As he left ot go inside I kept an eye on him while going to the tailgate to load it. I can see him inside pacing about and then he comes back to "sell me" something . With my hands hidden from view by the rear window. I tell him "no" again. As this is happening. A lady pulls up next to me. And he goes to her.

He sort of positions himself to trap her at her car while trying to sell her the same crap. She says no, he persists, she looks very uneasy, perhaps she thinks Im up to no good as well as I have my hands hidden behind a tinted window in the back of a truck with some nut, at 4 in the morning.

I politely step in and say "the lady doesn't want anything" now with my loaded M&P behind my back.

He turns to me "WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY"

Me-"I think its better that you just leave"

He steps towards me with the puffed chest while saying "YOU WANT SOM"

I drew and said "I want you to leave"

he replied "I don't want no trouble"

"Leave" and he turns and flees looking back a few times.

The lady thanks me.

I tell her he gave me a bad feeling and I had my gf and friend in the store, and if she wanted me to wait for her to get back before I left. She said she'd only be a few minutes. I said "take your time"

[Tigerseye]

Yes. It was a dog and the owner called him in time.

[MachIVshooter]

Not pulled, but pointed. Ruger Security Six was on the table, drunk kid bumbled into the wrong apartment at 11 O'clock. Took about three steps before he realized the situation, at which point his eyes nearly eclipsed his forehead. He managed to mutter "$h*t" as he tripped over his own feet exiting.

Now I live in another part of the country, small town rural America in peaceful bliss. I can carry here at nearly all times if I want, I just choose not to.
Yesterday 09:22 PM

Your life, your choice. I carry 24/7 everywhere. My father was murdered in a Montana town that didn't even show on the map.

[PennsyPlinker]

Yes. It was a dog and the owner called him in time.

I had a similar incident many years ago. I was walking my dog when we were set upon by an aggressive dog I did not know. It was late at night, a few blocks down the street from our old home in the city. This strange dog was barking, growling, snarling, and advancing on us. My dog, abused before we got her, was cowering behind me. I was yelling at the strange dog to go home.

All of a sudden, on a darkened porch across the street, someone started egging the other dog on. There were at least three or four people over there (I counted glowing cigarette butts) laughing and drinking (I could hear the bottles clinking too). They were yelling,

"Get em boy, get em!"

I pulled my Ruger P89 out of my pocket and racked a round into the chamber, pointing it at the dog. Instant silence over on the porch. Then, after a few seconds I heard,

"Come on boy, don't bother that man, come on home now."

I gave the porch a long hard look, put the gun away, and walked away. I never had any trouble on that corner again, although I made it a point to avoid it while walking the dog.

Now that I have told this story, I can just see someone showing up to tell me how lucky I was that someone on the porch didn't pull their gun and shoot me, and call the cops, and take my guns, and my permit, and my wife, and my children, and all that I will ever have! :eek::eek::eek::eek:

But you know what? I would do it again if I had to. :neener:

[4v50 Gary]

Only on duty.

Harry Callaghan: A good man's got to know his limitation.

Does that make me a good man? :neener:

[Grizzly Adams]

A number of times:

The first time was in 1967 just before joining the AF, I was going from North Alabama to Lebanon, Tenn and stopped at a White Alice hamburger joint outside of Murfreesboro, Tenn. After the waitress brought my order to the car she stood around and we talked for a few minutes and then she walked away. While I was finishing my meal three guys walk up and tell me to get out of the car. I ask what they wanted and one of them said that the waitress was his girlfriend and that they were going to kick my a$$. Will I had a Colt Scout 22LR under the seat so I just layed the barrel on the window seal and cocked the hammer and asked who was going to kick whose a$$. You never saw three pucks leave a parking lot so fast in your life. What makes this even funner was that the Colt wasn't even loaded!:D

Another time was after I returned for SEA and was working on my degree. The Univ. was conducting courses downtown in a hotel in a seeder part of the city. I can out of class one night and was getting into my truck when this bum walked up while I was standing between the open truck door and the door jam (a very dangerous position to be standing in), put his hand on the door and asked for money. When I told him I didn't have any money for him he tensed up like he was going to push the door shut on me. At that time I pulled the 38 Detective Special that I had on my hip and told him that if he didn't take his hands off my truck and move on the EMT wound have to pick him up off the sidewalk. About that time a State Trooper friend of mine, that was in the class with me, walked up and intervened ending the situation.

[ZeSpectre]

A couple of times on duty, never once so far (thank God) off duty. It's been close a few times though.

[GBExpat]

I have only come close, twice, in the late '70s while I was living/working in Virginia Beach ... both times late at night while working.

[Cannonball888]

Only once:
I was CCing my .45 through the woods and drew down on a deer who was threatening me with it's succulent flesh..

[MD_Willington]

No..

Cannonball888... you almost owed me a keyboard... LOL

[eric.cartman]

Came close one.
Loading groceries with my wife on a publix parking lot one night. Two shady guys start heading in our direction, staring us down. We move behind the cart and car, they are about 15 - 20 feet away. I put my hand on my IWB gun at 5 o'clock. I don't think they saw it. They stand there. Look at us. Look inside the car. One guys says "what's up". I say nothing. Just looking at them. They look at us. 5 seconds later they just walk away. I don't know what that was all about. Fishing I think.

[skipjack_1st]

Never have had to so much as reach for it:)

[WaltonS]

PennsyPlinker, that's just terrible. Not that you drew on the dog (I woulda probably wound up doing the same), but the fact that they actually had the audacity to use a "pet" as a weapon, for the sole purpose of terrorizing you and your dog. Now, I'm all for someone being able to rely on their dog to watch their back, but this was an unwarranted attack.

[romma]

Yes... Two weeks after hurricane Katrina, a "Katrina Refugee" crashed into the house at 2am in the morning.

Of course we are a half a mile or so in the woods up a hill on a dead end last and only house up there, so I responded in home invader fasion. Wspecially since the pair drove through the hard, knocked down a stone wall, drove back into the house, around it and into the back yard screaming out the windows at the top off their lungs,,, drunk and smoking crack cocaine...

The house and doors were bashed in and I caught them on the run and held them with a bead till police responded from 911...

[Snapping Twig]

One dark and lonely night some 20 years ago I stuck a .45acp in the faces of two miscreants at 2:30am. Two jokers broke our campsite and were laughing and I heard one of them say, "watch this", but that was as I had exited the camper and came up behind cover with one in the pipe and an extra mag in my pocket.

They saw me and then I herad one of them say, "we better leave now", and so they did.

My family survived because of this and whenever I hear anti gunners claim guns kill, I know they are full of poop as in this instance guns saved lives.

Disclaimer:
No miscreants were harmed during this exercise.

[Vern Humphrey]

Years ago, when I was a boy, we saw lights in the pasture. I went to investigate and found some bums had cut our fence, spread cattle feed, and were selecting a few steers to shoot and haul away. When I came up, they allowed they could whip me. When I cocked my .30-30, they left.

About 15 years ago, on a cold, dark night I had a low tire. So I stopped at a convenience store and bought a can of fire sealent. I made two mistakes -- first of all, I let a couple of creeps see my wallet, which had about $25 in ones (and looked fat.) Second, I backed around behind the store where there was a parking area with a light -- but no one could see me -- to fill the tire.

I was on my hands and knees when one of the creeps came up and said, "Hey, Man, how about you give me all that money?"

I'll never forget the look on his face when I showed him my .45 and made an alternate suggestion.

[Seancass]

it's interesting how many times attempted robbery result in a displayed weapon and no incident. According to my current law class, we hoosiers can only protect persons with deadly force, not property.

of course i would do the same thing and explain how threatened i felt.

havn't pulled or carried a gun yet.

[Vern Humphrey]

it's interesting how many times attempted robbery result in a displayed weapon and no incident. According to my current law class, we hoosiers can only protect persons with deadly force, not property.
Read the Geneva Convention. There's no paragraph that says, "When someone points a gun at you, and you do what they want, they aren't going to kill you anyway."

Or to put it another way, I wouldn't shoot a man because he was trying to steal my wallet. I would shoot him because he was threatening to use deadly force against me.

[granuale]

Seancass,

Robbery is NOT a property crime it is a crime of violence against a person.

A guy sees your wallet on the seat where you left it, breaks car window and steals it - this is theft where no deadly force is allowed.

A guy shows you a knife and demands your wallet - this is a violent personal crime and you can shoot.

robbery "theft/larceny of property through the offender's use of physical force or fear against a victim"

[Seancass]

absolutely, if he is threatening you, shoot him, but ONE(or more) story i read in particular was "hey give me your wallet"... Victim presents means of deffence and says "no."

there was no actual threat to a person and a good(bad) lawyer would say you escalated the situation. its not right, but that is what would happen if police got involved and some prosecuter actually let it get that far.

granuale, i actually dont know if you can assume that they intend harm if they walk up to you on the street, but in your home in indiana, if they are just robbing you, you cannot legally shoot them. If you kill them and then say they threatend you, good for you. The police will ask if you are ok and if you need anything, then leave. Also in Indiana, a baseball bat is not deadly force until he is close enough to hit you with it.

Of course i could be wrong on all this, i'm just taking the words from a lawyer and we know how trustworthy they are. and theres always more to the law than just what the law says. I'm not trying to say i'm right, i'm saying this is the way i understood it.

[Grizzly Adams]

Grizzly Adams, that's just terrible. Not that you drew on the dog (I woulda probably wound up doing the same), but the fact that they actually had the audacity to use a "pet" as a weapon, for the sole purpose of terrorizing you and your dog. Now, I'm all for someone being able to rely on their dog to watch their back, but this was an unwarranted attack.

WaltonS, the post you are referencing doesn't belong to me but to PennsyPlinker but I concern with what you say. If it had been me I probably would have shot the dog and then called 911.

[WaltonS]

Well, hell, I wasn't paying attention. But the message remains the same.

[Biker]

Not in the last few weeks.

Biker

[markallen]

I have'nt had to pull. But last night I had my hand on the grip ready to pull if needed.
My wife and I were coming home from her parents last night, about a fifteen mile trip, and most of its fourlane unlimited access highway.
We had a driver in a hurry come up behind us at about sixtyfive, in a fifty mph, zone. This guy was one of those drivers that changes to the fastest lane, only to have it slow down when he gets in, just to have the lane he just left pick up speed and pass him again. This went on about five times or more, each time you could see this guy cutting sharper, and quicker, and coming close to rear ending a couple of time.
I finally got around him in the passing lane. This road ends into an interstate. Right lane goes north, left lane goes south. Just got to the split, when this guy shoots from behind me, and tries to pass on the shoulder from the right.
He's out of lane, and forces his way over in front of me.
literally nose dives his truck in front of me pointed into the guard rail and blocks my path. He gets out yelling, cussing, and screaming. Comes up to my window with both hands into fists. I can't go anywhere, I can't go forward, and backward is into oncoming traffic.
I surprised myself I was able to remain calm, but I did put my hand on my pistol. I didn't cuss or yell ( which surprised my wife). I just told the guy he was in the wrong, and to get back in his truck. He kind of squatted, and reared back, with his right fist as if he was going to punch the window.
I told him again to go back to his truck. he glanced down a little, saw my hand inside my jacket,without another word stood upright, walked back to his truck, got in and left.
Thats close enough for me.
It's funny I would think that most times the decision to pull or not would be yours, but I realize that the other guy will make that decision for you.
My wife asked me when we settled down a little what I would have done, if he had punched through the glass. I told her he made that decision. I had my hand on my gun, was calm, not stirring this guy up. I was ready to pull, if came through the glass, he would have ate a bullet.
I was ready to stop at anytime. The outcome was in his hands. And thankfuly
we both went home safe, or at least my Wife and I did. Who knows what this guy did after he went on his way.

[Deanimator]

Had to "pull" an HK-93 rifle once when a guy tried to run a friend and me off of I-44 in Missouri in the middle of the night (probably to carjack us). When he saw the HK-93 pointed at him through the windshield, he took off at speeds approaching 100mph. We'd already seen evidence of him trying something similar with another vehicle, and heard later from a friend that he'd almost shot the guy for the same reason.

[Mongo the Mutterer]

Never pulled, but have convinced possible perps that they really don't want to find out what I have in my pocket. Last time was 6 weeks ago.

Story Not really that interesting. (http://www.missouricarry.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18620&highlight=)

[jwxspoon]

Yes, just yesterday. Went to my FFL (local pawn shop) to look at a new rifle a friend was buying. Parking lot is empty, just me and two store employees (one the owner) talking guns, politics, etc.

Pickup truck pulls up into the parking lot and two men get out. They are wearing hooded sweats with the hoods up and their hands in the front pocket. As they move to the door, the driver BACKS UP into a parking spot and remains in the vehicle. Conversation dies as we watch through the front doors as this is happening.

As the two men came in, the hair on the back of my neck literally stood straight up; I cannot remember the last time that happened. I slowly moved over to the side of the shop opposite the gun counter in such a way that I was behind a chest high display aisle. As I did so the owner of the pawn shop said "Can I help you gentlemen with something?"

One of the men mumbled something and bent to look into the gun display, while the other looked around at the cameras mounted in the corners of the shop. At that moment I firmly believed the shop was about to be robbed and I drew my weapon and held it down near my leg. The tension was unbelievable.

After another 10 seconds or so the men both just turned and walked out. They got in the pickup and immediately drove away.

I looked at the two employees and we all let out a collective breath. We were all thinking the same thing.

I'm glad nothing escalated. I was carrying my Taurus 605 .357 snub with no extra rounds. Today I have the same weapon on but you can bet I have a speedstrip in my weak side pocket.

jw

[Cougfan2]

Only twice. First time was when the wife and I were just married and living in our first appartment. Sitting in bed reading before lights out. Hear this guy pounding on the front door. I go to see what up and say who is it. This guy yells "open the door you f***** rag ass". I tried to look through the peep hole and he has blocked it with his hand. I say get your hand away from the peep hole. He mutters something and takes his hand away. I see this scruffy looking guy standing their. I hold my Dan Wesson to my side and open the door and say "what the hell do you want" (I know, probably a mistake). This guy's eyes got so big you could have raked them off with a stick. Turns out it was some drunk kid looking for his brother's appartment and got the wrong building.

Only other time was when a neighbor's Chow came into our yard and started popping it's jaws at my son. Grabbed my 5906 and started to draw down on it, but the neighbor girl called it back and it left.

[JesseL]

Once, when confronted by a herd of javelina intent on getting at the groceries I was unloading from the car. Fortunately yelling/arm waving eventually scared them off with no shots fired.

[The-Fly]

Never drawn, but came damn close one time with a vicious dog.

[DC3-CVN-72]

Only once. When I was in the NAVY, I was stationed on board USS ABRAHAM LINCOLN CVN-72 @ N.A.S. Alameda CA. My wife and I had an Apt. in town. There had been a series of sexual assualts in our building. the local police susspected that it might be a sailor because all of the victoms were sailor's wives or girlfriends, whiel their men were on duty. I get off duty @ 0700, we lived about 1 one mile from base, by the time I drive home, my wife and I almost always pass each other on the stairs because she is on her way to work. on this day we did'ent, as I go to put my key in the door it just kind of pushes open, as I look inside I see a man's work jacket on the floor and the door to the back bedroom is closed, to my left is my refridgerator that I keep my cocked and locked COLT Officer's .45 ACP. on top under yesterdays newspaper, { I take it out of the nightstand and put it there when I leave the Apt. incase I need it when I come home } I reach up and feel for it and it's still there, as I grab it I hear a mans voice mumbel something in the bathroom, my heart starts to pound and all I can think about is where is Annie!!! I slowly make my way to the bathroom door, I turn and point the gun at his head and as he comes into focus I recognize him, it's my ******* landloard :what::fire: I say to him " What the **** are you doing in my Apt. and where is Annie ? He says " your toliet was running and I was fixing it and I don"t know where Annie is. " I told him to never enter my Apt. when I'm not home and I would call him if I needed him. They cought the guy about 2 weeks later on the floor below mine. He was not a sailor, just some thug caseing the building.

[WaltonS]

DC3-CVN-72, if I may say so... that's one damned scary tale.

[DC3-CVN-72]

I'm just glad it all turned out O.K. in the end. :)

[MichaelJ07]

You folks sure do live "The High Road" here. Amazing how your situations scare the bejeezes outta me. Yet, to me, this is what it's all about: Having the skill, the judgement, the sense of responsibility, and the courage to carry a weapon.

I am in awe of your skills, judgements, responsibilities, and courage "under fire."

Michael