Charles Daly Shotguns


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wabbitkillr
December 5, 2007, 12:41 AM
Just was lookin' at some CD pumps and semi-auto's and I think I'm going to get one of each (the wife said o.k.). I was thinking of the 28" Bbl 20 Ga semi and the 26" Bbl 12 Ga pump. They seem to be a well made peice, but I'd like to hear some thoughts or opinion's about them. What about the 12 Ga 3.5" magnum for turkey or geese? Have a nice day.

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MAX100
December 5, 2007, 02:28 AM
The Marlin NEF H&R Excel Auto 5 and the Pardner Pump are better shotguns. Do some research on the net. Not all, but Some of the CD Autos have problems. The CD pump is a good shotgun.

The H&R Excel shotgun is the same gun as the Verona 405 which get very good reviews on Shotgun World. You can read reviews on the CD auto shotguns on there also.

I have a Excel Auto 5 and I am very happy with it. I plan to write a review on it soon when I put it through more testing. I have the 22" camo turkey model.

You don't need a 3.5" magnum shotgun. They are very painful to shoot. The
2 3/4" and 3" magnum is all you will ever need for hunting.


Guns & Ammo review of the H&R Excel Auto 5:
http://www.gunsandammomag.com/long_guns/hrexcell_071207/

Verona reviews on Shotgun World:
http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewforum.php?f=63&sid=71a885cd73b151fb1961cb66eed46f8c

romeo212000
December 5, 2007, 09:59 AM
I'm going to have to disagree with Maz on this one. I think they are excellent autos for the money. Is it a Benelli? No but your not paying $1,500 either. Yes there have been some problems with some of them but the same can be said for the older Stoeger M2000's. But they are producing a fine product now. I have shot them and like them, and two others I know own them and use them foor everything from shooting skeet to upland hunting and even duck and turkey hunting. A word of advice though. Stick with a 3" shell. If you cant put it down with a 3" shell it wont fit in the oven. Besides 3.5" shells are only good for sky busting.

wabbitkillr
December 5, 2007, 12:03 PM
Well, I'm no sky buster as I prefer my 20 Ga for most anything. Just talkin' to some guy at Bass Pro (not an employee) and he was telling me that you need all the shot and power available to down geese. He says steel shot makes the power less (and cold weather). I haven't done any goose hunting yet and since I can get both guns, I want to get the 12 Ga that will do the most for me. I think the mag might be more than I need though. Keep the comments coming. Please keep it friendly though. Thanks.

Pete409
December 5, 2007, 01:57 PM
Rather than buying 2 Daly's (pump and auto), I would buy one GOOD Browning, Beretta, Remington, or Winchester.

MAX100
December 5, 2007, 02:05 PM
romeo212000 You are probably right about the new autos that CD is importing now. I heard that all of the Turkish gun manufactures have switched to CNC machining. That will greatly increase the quality and consistency of their firearms. I know the Marlin H&R Excel autos that are made in Turkey are made on CNC machines.

Pete409 some of us already own a Browning, Beretta, Remington, or Winchester and we are looking for a good low cost shotgun that we don't have to worry about if it falls in the mud or if gets scratched. Some of us are on a tight budget and will find a way later on to feed it with ammo. Some of us are just tight wads looking for a deal.


GC

wabbitkillr
December 5, 2007, 06:17 PM
Pete 409, have you any idea's where I might find a selection of #BB or #BBB in the 20Gauge format? What about some nice #T shot in 20? The only reason I am considering a 12 is because I have not found these yet myself. Any help would be great, then I only need to buy 1 gun and can spend more on it. Thanks and have a nice day.

Cougfan2
December 5, 2007, 06:40 PM
The guy at Bass Pro doesn't completely have it right. Steel shot is lighter than lead, thus the same size shot in steel as lead will bleed energy quicker and reduce range. That is why when Steel was first introduced they would tell you to go up 2 shot sizes from what you had been using in lead.

The Remington HeviShot is actually more dense than steel and delivers greater down range energy with a similar loading. It's expensive, but unless your skybusting all day, how much of it are you really going to shoot.

The Deer Hunter
December 5, 2007, 07:48 PM
Well, I'm no sky buster as I prefer my 20 Ga for most anything. Just talkin' to some guy at Bass Pro (not an employee) and he was telling me that you need all the shot and power available to down geese.

I'm not an expert on the subject...But when I went goose hunting on Thanksgiving one of the guys was using a 20 GA. Now he is a good shot(he shoots at the club regularly) but he was able to down geese out to 40ish yards with it. Apparently 40 yards is the most your going to try to be shooting. Thats with decoys and what have you, not pass shooting.

wabbitkillr
December 5, 2007, 10:36 PM
The Deer Hunter, What shotshell size and shot # was he using? I have heard from several that at least #BB or #BBB is needed and some even say #T shot. I haven't been able to find any of these for the 20 gauge. If you find out, please enlighten me, I won't buy a 12 if I don't need too. Thanks.

CajunBass
December 5, 2007, 10:40 PM
Rather than buying 2 Daly's (pump and auto), I would buy one GOOD Browning, Beretta, Remington, or Winchester.

I suppose if he had wanted to know about those he'd have asked about them.

I looked at a couple of CD pumps recently. I'm thinking of getting one for the wife. They seemed ok for the price.

wabbitkillr
December 5, 2007, 10:55 PM
I have heard from several that the pumps are great (almost the same as an 870 but cheaper). Also, they don't rattle like the Benelli Nova:D. Can anybody give me a report on the CD semi-auto? Honesty means more than hear-say. :)

RockyMtnTactical
December 5, 2007, 10:58 PM
My brother has a 20ga pump made by CD. He likes it a lot. It sure is light, aluminum receiver.

ftierson
December 5, 2007, 11:08 PM
I have both the CD pump and autoloader (made in Turkey) guns, both in 12 gauge with 24 inch barrels...

You get a lot of gun for very little money.

I have been happy with both of them...

Forrest

RockyMtnTactical
December 5, 2007, 11:29 PM
double post

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