Been looking at this gun and its huge price tag of about 2000$ here in canada. Been doing a lot of reading out of interest and curiousity and have noted that its quite large as well, about 30% larger than the USP. Wiki has a pretty good article on its birth and use, and its quoted that it is an "offensive pistol" in which it was designed to be used for short and long range attacks.
Anyways, there aren't any good pictures on the net of the this gun, and all the ones that I have found are dinky airsoft versions that mean absolutley nothing to me as they are not the real thing.
If I ever did buy a gun like this, it certainly would only be because I want it as a novelty, but at the moment 2K is alot for a handgun which could be spent on other things...
Regardless, if any of you have anything to say about it, good or bad, and if you have any pictures, please please post them!
Any experience with it? tell me how it shoots, feels, etc.
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Check out hkpro.com you should be able to find plenty of pictures.
December 5, 2007, 12:19 PM
Not exactly the same but my USP Elite .45 is about the same general dimensions as the Mk 23.
The Glock 34 below it my give you some idea of the general size of the gun.
December 5, 2007, 12:42 PM
It's a big boat anchor. The Wiki article only briefly touches on the fact that the Mk 23 was basically a flop. Very few were purchased, and what few units got them mostly leave them in the arms room in favor of their Berettas, P226s, or whatever.
Still, if you're looking for a very accurate pistol for shooting at the range, it will do that. Definitely handle one before you purchase, though (don't know if FFL transfers are legal in Canada, so this may be an irrelevant point). One of the reasons that design did not do better in military service is that many of the intended end users of the pistol simply did not have big enough hands to operate the controls without excessive acrobatics, breaking their grip, etc.
December 5, 2007, 01:57 PM
It's comparable in size to a Desert Eagle, although without the weight. IMO, it's way, way, way too large-at least the DE has a reason for its size. The controls are awkward, and it doesn't have any particular advantage over a much smaller pistol.
December 5, 2007, 02:17 PM
Sorry but I handled one and that was close as I ever wanted to get to owning that thing. Its over-priced, over-hyped and completely impractical IMHO.
Get yourself a nice 1911, Glock, Sig or even a standard USP, I would stay away from the MK23.
I owned a USP Tactical for a while but sold it recently because I hardly ever used it and it didn't make a practical concealed carry gun, way too big. It was plenty accurate and well made, but I bought really the only reason I bought one is because a guy I used to know a few years ago was in desperate need of money and offered it to me for $600! When I turned around and sold it a few weeks ago I got $850 for it:evil:
but at the moment 2K is alot for a handgun which could be spent on other things...
I think you answered your own question right here
Honestly you can buy a couple really nice practical handguns for the price of this beast and I think you would probably be a lot happier in the end.
I have only had mine a month but I have been very impressed with it, it's soft shooting and extremely accurate, the long sight radius make it very easy to shoot well. The DA pull is very heavy but the SA pull feels perfect for a pistol of it’s type.
Everything on the Mark 23 is beefier and more heavy duty than the USP45 line though the grip area between the two are very close, the mags are identical in size but the polymer on the Mk23 is thicker so the grip has a slightly larger circumference however the shape and over all feel of the grip is very much the same, in other words if your hands are large enough for USP45 you will have no problem with the MK23 grip.
Here are a few photos I took showing the differences in size and construction between the Mark 23 and my USP45 Tactical.
The MK23 is a very large pistol no question but I think the trigger guard makes it look larger than it really is. this is a photo that I played around with months ago, the top is the unaltered photo of a Mark 23 I found on-line before I bought mine and the bottom is the same photo except the trigger guard is photoshoped smaller.
December 5, 2007, 09:52 PM
Thanks for those comparison pics and write-up.
That is the first time I have seen good side by side photos of the internals.
December 5, 2007, 10:01 PM
I like the MK23 a bunch, but don't want to pay that price tag. The Elite's seem to be pretty nice as well, but have not heard any good or bad things about either of them. I think I will break down and treat myself to the Elite in 9mm. :D
December 5, 2007, 10:34 PM
Never understood the lumping of the Mark 23 with the Desert Eagle. It still quite smaller than the DEP. As seen by G1000's pic, not much bigger than a Tactical. Here's mine.