Source for Colt 2nd Gen parts.


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jphendren
December 6, 2007, 12:53 AM
Anybody know where to buy genuine Colt 2nd Gen parts?

Jared

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Phantom Captain
December 6, 2007, 02:00 PM
Well I have good news and bad news.

Bad news: you can't buy original Colt 2nd Generation parts as the company does not exist anymore, at least not the black powder revolver producing part of the company.

Good news: Uberti parts WILL work for most Colt 2nd generation revolvers. The Colt 2nd generations still had their parts rough cast in Italy and shipped to the US for production and finishing. I have a 2nd generation 1860 Army with the fluted cylinder but I use an Uberti engraved cylinder instead of messing up and dinging up the fluted one. Fits and works perfectly. Any of the other inside springs, hand assembly, bolt etc by Uberti will all work even though they may need a bit of hand fitting.

jphendren
December 6, 2007, 02:14 PM
I have a Uberti Walker also and noticed that the 2nd Gen Colt is slightly different than the Uberti. The case coloring on the Colt is vastly superior also. Who did the rough casting for the Colt's?

Jared

DixieTexian
December 6, 2007, 06:24 PM
But will the Uberti loading levers fit?

jphendren
December 6, 2007, 06:38 PM
Are Uberti loading levers color case hardened? Or are they just colored with chemicals? My Uberti doesn't look like genuine color case hardening to me. I guess I could buy a Uberti loading lever and have it color case hardened but that would be expensive I imagine.

mykeal
December 6, 2007, 07:21 PM
But will the Uberti loading levers fit?

The loading lever from my Uberti Second Model Dragoon will fit my Colt Third Generation (Signature Series) Third Model Dragoon.

Who did the rough casting for the Colt's?

Uberti did the castings for the Second Generation Colt production.

Are Uberti loading levers color case hardened? Or are they just colored with chemicals?

Don't know about the loading levers. The frames are metallurgically case hardened. The coloring comes from agitation of the parts in the case hardening medium during cooling. It can be chemically copied, and if done properly it's very difficult to visually tell it apart from from metallurgically done coloring.

Old Fuff
December 6, 2007, 08:12 PM
Check out www.e-gunparts.com

When Colt stopped making cap & ball revolvers Numrich - The Gunparts Corp. bought up most of the remaining parts.

The Colt revolvers had true color case-hardning (sometimes called "bone & charcoal" hardning). Uberti cap & ball revolvers have a different process that simply colors the metal - although they do offer a line of Single Action Army revolvers with a optional bone & charcoal finish. Any experienced person can quickly tell the difference between the finishes.

There are some restoration companies that do bone & charcoal case hardning. I don't know what doing a rammer would cost, but it would probably be relatively inexpensive. The larger problem is that sometimes the parts warp when they are quenced.

jphendren
December 6, 2007, 08:25 PM
I thought about ordering a Uberti loading rod and having it color case hardened by Doug Turnbull, but I think that it would be fairly expensive.

$40.95 for a loading lever
$75 minimum charge for color case hardening

$115.95 plus shipping

I might be better off selling this one and buying another one.

Old Fuff
December 6, 2007, 08:30 PM
Sorry, I misunderstood... :o

I thought the one you had could be refinished.

jphendren
December 6, 2007, 09:10 PM
No problem. The existing rod slightly bent while trying to use it to lever the barrel from the frame. Most people would not even notice it, but I am a perfectionist so it will bother me now.

Dustinthewind
December 6, 2007, 11:52 PM
If the only thing wrong with the loading lever is a slight bend it could be straightened in a press.

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